Nookipedia talk:The Roost

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Post new topics below! Drago  (talk)      11:03, January 1, 2019 (EST)

How do you make a bot?
Hi, Does anyone know how to make a bot code? Cheers, ToadetteFan007  (Talk)   04:47, February 5, 2022 (EST)
 * Majority of bots used here are operated using a (e.g., ). My bot , uses  for parameter additions, file moves, and page creation functions. Warning tho, you will need to have administration permission and lots of coding experience if you want to operate your own bot someday. -- PanchamBro (talk • contributions) 10:20, February 6, 2022 (EST)

HHA furniture theme collection mergers
I'm proposing for Pirate Ship Theme and Mario Theme to merge with Pirate Series and Mario Series (with or without Super Mario Set merged) respectively. A big reason has to be how they are transcribed in different languages. For Pirate Ship Theme and Pirate Series, they share the same Japanese (かいぞく), Korean (해적), Spanish (pirata), and German (Piraten) translations. As for the Mario Theme and Mario Series, their translations are pretty identical,

I have another reason, that given how furniture series have changed in from having the same bed, drawer, table, and chair features to diverse furniture parts that may or may not have all of the following classifications, that it addition to the translations, they are justified because of the changes made to 's furniture collection classification. So they are the same collection, just under a different name.

Let me know what you guys think of these changes. -- PanchamBro (talk • contributions) 18:08, February 27, 2022 (EST)


 * Are there existing pages where themes/sets and series have been merged? I'd like to know what they look like. Also I don't understand why translations should matter in decisions like these since this is an English wiki. Could you clarify/expand your reasoning here, please? Melicent (talk) 19:07, February 27, 2022 (EST)
 * Jingle Series merging with Festive Series and Pavé Series merging with Festivale Series on the premise of shared Japanese translation for each are instances. And translations can matter in situation in regards to if a furniture series/set/theme is the same as before or if it's a different series/set/theme overall. Office Set and Office Set (Clerical) is an example of this. -- PanchamBro (talk • contributions) 19:31, February 27, 2022 (EST)
 * Thanks for taking the time to explain! I was wondering specically about sets and/or themes being merged into series pages (or sets being merged into themes) and whether there were already precedents, in which case what you suggest is usual modus operandi on the wiki and I'm all for it. I've tried looking for some but only found the cases you mention (series being merged into other series with similar names/furniture, etc.). However, I don't know the franchise and the Nooki well enough. Melicent (talk) 07:08, February 28, 2022 (EST)


 * Where are you getting the translations for the themes from? They are not present on the wiki. —Moo🐮Moo🐄Meadows (talk) 06:43, March 21, 2022 (EDT)
 * The theme translations were missing from the wiki, but I went ahead and added them using the "Localizations" tab present in the New Leaf spreadsheet. HylianAngel (talk) 05:32, April 6, 2022 (EDT)

Festivale Feathers
Hey, I noticed that when referring to the Feathers collected during the Festivale event, the hyperlink for ‘Feathers’ leads to the disambiguation page for Feather. I was wondering whether I should create a new page for specifically the Feathers collected during Festivale or if I should change the hyperlink to one of the individual feather pages and if so, which one? Thank you for the input and of course please tell me if I have overlooked something or made an error in someway!

--TapDanceDruid (talk) 11:32, February 28, 2022 (EST)


 * Welcome to Nookipedia, TapDanceDruid! In response to your question, I'd say the link should just be removed. The feathers already have individual item pages for New Horizons and I don't think they're notable enough for their own page. Drago   (talk)     Drago PC Villager Icon.png 11:41, February 28, 2022 (EST)
 * Drago beat me to it, but I'll say what I was suppose to say: in regards to the disambiguation page I would probably add the item pages associated with the feathers to the page (e.g., , , , and ) but a new article about feathers doesn't sound bad to me. I would like to know how it would look like first, so I recommend creating a user sandbox here. But as Drago mentioned, there might be some notablility problems, so keep that in mind. -- PanchamBro (talk • contributions) 11:49, February 28, 2022 (EST)
 * I agree that the wiki could use a Feathers page. They are collectibles in both New Leaf and New Horizons, having a centralized page that's all about feathers would be useful. HylianAngel (talk) 16:46, February 28, 2022 (EST)

Create villager/special character ID redirects
I've been thinking a lot about the implementation of IDs for villagers and special characters, and if it's plausible to have redirects based on a villager or special characters's ID. It would certainly be somewhat easier to search for a particular codename and then go to the character associated with it.

There are certain articles that will need to have a notice due to this (e.g. Doc already exists as a villager so a notice would need to be added to redirect people to Wilbur in the event that someone wanted to search his codename). -- PanchamBro (talk • contributions) 10:00, March 14, 2022 (EDT)
 * It makes sense to have them. It makes things easier. --Dr. Peach (talk) 12:01, March 14, 2022 (EDT)
 * It seems really cool in theory, but does the wiki really need these redirects? I feel like it is not a very practical way of searching up a character. A person who is like "I want to go to cat #5's page," I feel would either want to go there because of these two main scenarios:
 * They already know from memory that cat05 is Tangy. However, if that's the case, they would just look up Tangy anyways.
 * They don't know who cat #5 is and they are curious who it is like a game of chance. However, if they really wanted to learn that info, they would just go to the page of villager ID's (which hasn't been created yet but has been a WIP by Chubby Bub).
 * Anyways, I don't see this being a very practical feature. I don't think the redirects would be that helpful just because I would say 99% of players wouldn't know villager ID's by heart, and that the number of people who search for a villager based on ID rather than the villager's name is too small or nonexistent. And if they desired that info, the most practical thing would be for them to go to the ID page. I can't imagine that many scenarios where a person would want to go to, say, kpg's page. I would say the villager ID's page that hyperlinks to each villager page would serve as a more useful trivia and type of "search" feature. Also, along with  causing confusion, there's also ,  , and  . HylianAngel (talk) 16:34, March 14, 2022 (EDT)
 * for the same reasons HylianAngel says. This seems unnecessary (I see no real use for it) and honestly I think it will just create confusion, especially where redirects are necessary. If someone wants to find a character's ID or what an ID is they can go to the list page, the character's page or search for the ID. But on this topic, I'll try to finish the list pages so we can move them to the main namespace. Chubby Bub (talk) 21:43, March 15, 2022 (EDT)
 * per above. I don't think redirects for this are necessary or would even be used much. If people want to see which ID links to which villager, then the newly created ID list articles would be far more practical and informative for this. Also IMO we have way too many WrongPage (etc.) notices in the villager articles already without adding even more to cover edge cases like Doc/ . --Shark HHD Icon.png Dorsal Axe  (talk) 05:43, March 17, 2022 (EDT)
 * per others. I could see this perhaps being a useful option to add to the API, but I don't see it getting widespread use on the wiki by the average reader. -- Jake (talk)  14:04, March 17, 2022 (EDT)

Merge NES games with their respective item page
I really should content that the NES games do serve a purpose in informing the reader on the games that are available to play in. That being said, with the creation of item pages, should they even stay? I'd argue they be merged, with information on the game's origin and gameplay moving to the item page instead.

As for Super Mario Bros. and The Legend of Zelda, that's tricky. They don't necessary have a respectively item page, so I think a separate choice will need to be made on this. -- PanchamBro (talk • contributions)


 * I your proposal. However, regarding SMB and TLoZ, I think they should have pages. This is a bit of a separate topic, but here's as good a place to discuss it: I think all unused items should still have item pages. I know they used to but were moved to Prerelease and unused content pages; however, I think such explanatory pages should exist alongside individual item pages for unused items. It makes more sense to document everything, especially since some, like the DUMMY, are obtainable because of developer oversight or through glitches. Although we ourselves take a neutral stance on modding, it could also be useful for people looking to modify their games, with a save editor or something else. Chubby Bub (talk) 16:24, May 15, 2022 (EDT)


 * per Chubby Bub. Glitchers and modders could benefit from articles on specific unused items. Senor Mexicano (talk) 07:29, May 17, 2022 (EDT)


 * - It makes sense that this info be moved to the item page, good suggestion! I would also argue that Super Mario Bros. and The Legend of Zelda should also get their own pages. Just because they are unobtainable through normal gameplay doesn't mean that they aren't items; they should still be documented as such. The "Obtain via" field could list Cheating device. Sunmarshsignature.png  ( talk )  23:10, June 1, 2022 (EDT)

Should items only available in DnM, DnM+, or DnMe+ have their Japanese name in the prose?
Sort of similar to the discussion from last year, I would feel like having the Japanese name in the prose for items that only appear in, , or would be beneficial since they don't really have an official name and are just translated. Any thoughts? -- PanchamBro (talk • contributions) 19:45, April 23, 2022 (EDT)
 * - Sounds good to me! Should also be paired with conjectural. Sunmarshsignature.png  ( talk )  23:14, June 1, 2022 (EDT)
 * - Sounds like a good idea to me, too. It's good that the items have best possible translations, but the original Japanese names would be nice to include. --Piranhapete (talk) 21:45, June 3, 2022 (EDT)
 * for both this and the discussion on villagers with the same issue, which I don't believe came to a conclusion either. Chubby Bub (talk) 21:51, June 3, 2022 (EDT)

Issues with pages using cargo tables with a lot of entries
As of now, the following pages here are having issues loading at all, and at this point trying to fix any issues is inoperable at this point: I'm suggesting that we cut our losses and split these pages up into sections, but I can't tell what sections to choose. It's likely for the latter that it is split up between furniture, clothing, interior, and other items, but I'm conflicted with the other pages. -- PanchamBro (talk • contributions) 15:50, May 9, 2022 (EDT)
 * Furniture/New Horizons/Black
 * Furniture/New Horizons/White
 * Furniture/New Horizons/Yellow
 * Poki/Items purchasable with Poki
 * I think that furniture could be split between the different types (Housewares, Miscellaneous, Wall-mounted & Ceiling decor). Alternatively, is the problem with Cargo having to perform such a large database search, or is it an issue of the page being too large? Is it possible for us to replace the page with a static table (now that NH will seemingly not be updated anymore)? Sunmarshsignature.png  ( talk )  23:23, June 1, 2022 (EDT)

Add a table of catchphrases in different languages
With all the effort made in romanizing and adding meaning to each name of a villager using Foreignname, I think doing the same to catchphrases would be nice. We already have Japanese catchphrases translated w/ their meaning for Japanese e-Reader cards, I think doing one for each language, no matter what they mean, would also suffice. -- PanchamBro (talk • contributions) 10:25, May 13, 2022 (EDT)

- Are you proposing this table be added to the bottom of each villager page? Or is this a separate list/page where all villager catchphrases are listed? Or both? It would be nice to have a master list to link to from the catchphrase page.  ( talk )  23:31, June 1, 2022 (EDT)
 * The latter is definitely what I want to accomplish after I get the Cargo values set up, but for my original suggestion, yes, I meant for the bottom of each villager's page. -- PanchamBro (talk • contributions) 01:14, June 2, 2022 (EDT)
 * - I think this is a cool idea and it would be interesting to see how similar or different their catchphrases are across different localizations. I think it'd be helpful to see a mockup for how it would look (maybe get started on a template?), and we should probably also decide on whether to rename the "Names in other languages" to something more broad? "Localization differences" is almost there but I think mis-characterizes the nature of the section... "Key translations"? I don't know, perhaps you have some ideas? Sunmarshsignature.png  ( talk )  14:33, June 7, 2022 (EDT)

Update main page trivia
Should we update the trivia on the main page? I think we should update it every month or so and maybe get some people for it. I need your opinions, Toadalind (talk) 12:48, May 23, 2022 (EDT)
 * I think it would be nice if we had a group of users responsible for monthly trivia updates, similar to the fanart curators for the featured fanart (which is also on the Main Page). Drago   (talk)     Drago PC Villager Icon.png 13:31, May 23, 2022 (EDT)

Move the "In other games" section from the infobox to its own section
At the time I am writing this, we currently have item pages for the series of games on Nintendo 64 and Nintendo GameCube,, and. However, given that we will eventually cover the other games in the series (,, , to some extent, and ), and each will need its own item page eventually and identifiers for each and every game, I propose to move the "In other games" section in each of the item infoboxes and place them under their own section at the bottom of each item page, as to not bloat the section height. This will need to be done automatically. -- PanchamBro (talk • contributions) 23:12, May 25, 2022 (EDT)


 * - I see where you're coming from, and I agree that items which are featured in many different games will have a particularly long infobox once the item pages from all games have been created. I would support adding additional links in a "See also" section at the bottom of the item page, but I think that the info is important enough to stay in the infobox. I would suggest merging the "In other games" section with the "Appearances" section, so only the abbreviated game titles appear, but the links go to the appropriate item page (e.g. goes to Item:Froggy Chair (Animal Crossing), not Animal Crossing). Sunmarshsignature.png  ( talk )  23:53, June 1, 2022 (EDT)
 * The problem is that the infoboxes (e.g. PGFurniture) uses an "Appearance" system, so I don't think this suggestion of renaming "In other games" would suffice, especially so since what you suggest is using Infobox Appearance for this task, right? -- PanchamBro (talk • contributions) 01:16, June 2, 2022 (EDT)
 * I realize that PGFurniture uses an "Appearance" system, and I'm saying that its functionality should be changed so that it provides link to specific item pages rather than game pages. We would still keep all other functionality (cargo storage of information about what game(s) the item appears in), it's just the link that would change. So in the case of the Froggy Chair the appearance section would look like this: . This would reduce the vertical length of the template as the link text is shortened to the game abbreviation and more than one link can appear on a line. Sunmarshsignature.png  ( talk )  14:50, June 7, 2022 (EDT)
 * While I see your point of keeping functionality, I don't like the concept of using Infobox Appearance simply because A) the name is hidden bneath those templates and B) it still doesn't address the issue of keeping the infobox as short as possible. Add and, and the data containers inches up in height once more. It's still making the infobox go up in height, and the solution to address how PGFurniture function is not great to me. I still believe in having a separate section dedicated for "In other games", but I would like to see what others think about this. -- PanchamBro (talk • contributions) 16:13, June 7, 2022 (EDT)

Reviving the idea of polls
This is a far-fetched idea, and given how little relevance the polls have, I'd figured this might be in vain.

But I've been thinking of reviving polls, this time with a commission review similar to Nookipedia:Featured Fanart and MarioWiki's poll system. It's a hard thing to do, given that A) we haven't done these since October 25, 2017, and B) we've missed the majority of traffic from when came out and when version  and  came out. But I figured that there is an opportunity to gain community interest, as we did when we decided to capitalize the first letter of each item name, and there are plenty of topics we could cover with the polls.

There are only some things left question, like what intervals do we want to update polls, and how to gain poll suggestions. I was thinking of updating the polls every month, and gaining suggestions both from Google Forms and a dedicated Discord channel.

What do you think? -- PanchamBro (talk • contributions) 00:30, June 4, 2022 (EDT)


 * . I've been thinking about this recently as well. I think this would be a good thing to revive, especially as polls are on the main page and therefore highly visible. One poll a month shouldn't be too much to handle, especially if we get a committee together of three or four users. I agree with giving polls a Discord channel similar to how fanart has one, with only staff and poll committee members having access. Drago   (talk)     Drago PC Villager Icon.png 11:10, June 4, 2022 (EDT)
 * - I like the idea. If approved, I will install mw:Extension:AJAXPoll to make it easy to implement/update the poll each month. -- Jake (talk)  11:19, June 4, 2022 (EDT)
 * Sounds Great! 💜Toadalind💜 (talk) 23:56, June 15, 2022 (EDT)
 * Sounds good to me. 20:00, July 4, 2022 (CET)
 * Love the idea to bring them back and they have been sorely missed by me since we discontinued them, so I highly support bringing them back and reviving the concept of them on the main page once again! <3 ~ Poizon  Mushro0m PoizonMush Sig.png 15:48, July 9, 2022 (EDT)

How can I replace an image of a file?
I wanted to contribute somehow to the wiki, so I tried to find low-quality images to replace. I found what I think is a better quality image of the Japanese Amiibo Festival logo, but I'm new to most of this stuff and I'm not sure how to replace the image with the newer quality one. How do I do this? Please and thank you!
 * You can upload a new image by clicking this text on an image page:
 * Reupload text.png
 * -- PanchamBro (talk • contributions) 01:20, June 9, 2022 (EDT)

Song pages for "Hazure" songs
I think the three invalid songs in merit their own song pages. Here's why: And all that makes me think these songs are notable enough not to be lumped together at the bottom of the secret song page. Chubby Bub (talk) 01:23, June 19, 2022 (EDT)
 * We had pages for Animal City, Goodbye and Drive long before came out, and these pages were changed/expanded when it did; the same can be done for these songs when the next game releases
 * They are all present on Atsumare Dōbutsu no Mori: Original Soundtrack 2, where they are given official Japanese names (はずれ01, はずれ02, はずれ03) and credited to Kazumi Totaka
 * Hazure02 is getting a special remix on Atsumare Dōbutsu no Mori: Totakeke Music Instrumental Selection
 * They each have enough that can be said about the song itself for a page, in my opinion.
 * They have unobtainable items in-game.
 * I'm interested in this proposal, but I would love to see an example on how these pages are going to look. -- PanchamBro (talk • contributions) 01:37, June 19, 2022 (EDT)
 * Ok. I made a potential idea at User:Chubby Bub/Hazure02. Chubby Bub (talk) 03:49, June 19, 2022 (EDT)
 * - these songs are just as notable as any other K.K. song, especially now that Nintendo has acknowledged them on the soundtrack collection and given them official names. ~ AlexBot2004  ( Talk ) 12:41, June 19, 2022 (EDT)
 * , per AlexBot above. -- Jake (talk)  12:43, June 19, 2022 (EDT)
 * That example page looks great! Is the plan to wedge these 3 songs in between K.K. Robot Synth (the last numbered song) and K.K. Chorale (the first numbered song)? If so, some modifications to Song Header will be required (I think), but once that roadblock is taken care of, these would be 3 excellent pages. HylianAngel (talk) 17:53, June 19, 2022 (EDT)
 * Yes, I would agree with that change to the song header. Currently the songs are internally numbered 901-903, and I think that should be reflected (maybe with a note), but presumably they will be given sequential numbers in the next game. Chubby Bub (talk) 20:33, June 19, 2022 (EDT)
 * per all. -- PanchamBro (talk • contributions) 23:03, July 6, 2022 (EDT)
 * all for new music pages!!!!! I shall post an idea for these sort of pages at this link right here -nookfan 07:06, July 13, 2022 (EDT)
 * Per all! -💜Toadalind💜 (talk) 23:10, July 25, 2022 (EDT)

help me
please can you help me I do not know how to fill in infoboxes or anything really for I am new to nookepedia -nookfan 07:02, July 13, 2022 (EDT)
 * Most of the infoboxes have documentation on how to use them. You can copy-paste the provided example and fill out each parameter or remove parameters as needed. I'm assuming you might be trying to fill out Infobox Special on your user page. Here's a generic example:


 * You can paste that onto your userpage and change the parameters appropriately. If you're confused in general about editing on Nookipedia, I recommend reading the help pages. There are some other useful links in the welcome message on your talk page. HylianAngel (talk) 06:58, July 14, 2022 (EDT)

Changed German names
So while browsing the German Animal Crossing Wiki, I have found ten cases of villagers that had their German name changed that we haven't documented on here, yet. These are:

•Dobie used to be called "Fritz" in Population Growing, but was renamed "Sigmund" in New Leaf. Frobert has his former name.

•Gruff used to be called "Siggi" in Population Growing, but was renamed "Gregor" in New Leaf. Antonio has his former name.

•June used to be called "Regina" in Population Growing, but was renamed "Juna" in New Leaf. Rhonda has her former name.

•Kitty used to be called "Katja" in Population Growing and City Folk, but was renamed "Karen" in New Leaf. Katie has her former name. Although I find it rather skeptical that Kitty and Katie supposedly shared a German name in City Folk (Similarly, Gracie and Bangle were both named "Griffa" in Italian Population Growing). Either the German Wiki made a mistake or there really were two characters named "Katja" in the same game.

•Leopold kept his English name in Population Growing, but was renamed "Leandro" in New Leaf. No other character has had "Leopold" as their German name.

•Lolly used to be called "Ferdi" in City Folk, but was renamed "Feline" in New Leaf. No other character has had "Ferdi" as their German name.

•Peanut used to be called "Pia" in Population Growing, but was renamed "Paulina" in Wild World. Pinky's German name is also "Pia", but strangely, the German Wiki does not state that she had a name change. If accurate, then that would mean German Population Growing literally had two villagers named "Pia". This is another case where I do have to question the German Wiki's legitimacy.

•Sandy used to be called "Sandra" in Population Growing, but was renamed "Senta" in New Leaf. Gladys has her former name.

•Tiffany used to be called "Michele" in Wild World and City Folk, but was renamed "Michelle" in New Leaf. No other character has had "Michele" as their German name.

•Tybalt used to be called "Tristan" in Population Growing, but was renamed "Arne" in New Leaf. Moe (who was called "Mia" in German Wild World) would gain the name "Tristan" starting with German City Folk.

As I stated with the Kitty and Peanut sections, I do question how accurate the German Wiki is and these do need a full investigation, but I did want to bring this to the attention of Nookipedia and these names should be noted on the appropriate pages if any of them do turn out to be true. The Jacketed   Terrapin  13:04, July 24, 2022 (EDT)
 * After comparing these findings against the data spreadsheets for each game, I can confirm that all of these name changes are accurate with the datamined names (even the two "Pia"s in and Kitty's name being "Katja" in ). ~  AlexBot2004  ( Talk ) 15:24, July 24, 2022 (EDT)
 * Very well then. I shall be adding all the defunct German names to the langtables. Snapping Turtle NH Icon.pngThe Jacketed   Terrapin Soft-Shelled Turtle NH Icon.png 16:26, July 24, 2022 (EDT)

Non-English names as redirects/disambiguation pages
So I have been thinking of an idea that could potentially benefit any of our non-English native readers (who may be more familiar with the non-English names of certain villagers/characters), and my idea is to take all of the villager/character names that were never used in English localizations and turn them into redirects. For example, the name "Xavier" is exclusive to the French version of Animal Crossing, being the name used for Pigleg, so if a French reader wants to look for "Xavier" on this Wiki, a redirect might help.

For the names that have been used by multiple characters, those should be disambiguation pages. For instance, the name "Pablo" was used for three different villagers, all in different languages: Chico in German, Claude in Spanish, and Otis in Italian. It should look something like this:
 * ''Pablo may refer to three villagers in the :


 * ''*The German name of Chico, a mouse villager.
 * ''*The Spanish name of Claude, a rabbit villager.
 * ''*The Italian name of Otis, a bird villager

The only concern I have is if the German-exclusive names should be turned into redirect/disamb pages since we already have an affiliated German Wiki that mainly covers the German localization stuff, but other than that, I don't see any problem with this.

Any objections to this idea? The Jacketed   Terrapin  05:40, August 2, 2022 (EDT)
 * This sounds like a nice idea. Also although the German wiki exists, German visitors may still visit Nookipedia and search for a villager via the search bar out of curiosity, so it would still be good to have German redirect/disambiguation pages. HylianAngel (talk) 20:47, August 2, 2022 (EDT)

Discussion on dialogue pages
While I believe these pages have some sort of place on this wiki, I believe that the way they are presented is inconsistent and unformatted. Compare Mr. Resetti/Animal Crossing dialogue with The Roost/New Horizons dialogue.

It's long overdue at this point, but I'm willing to have a standardization format for dialogue pages at this point. -- PanchamBro (talk • contributions) 10:09, August 13, 2022 (EDT)


 * I much prefer the format of the New Horizons page. I think we should work on getting the dialogue pages for older games up to that standard. Drago   (talk)     Drago PC Villager Icon.png 11:15, August 13, 2022 (EDT)

Portuguese names
So while doing some browsing, I have found 11 pages that have the Brazilian flag in their langtables:
 * Animal Crossing: Sweet Day
 * Animal Crossing Calculator
 * Animal Crossing Clock
 * Animal Crossing Plaza
 * Fortune Cookie
 * Harvey
 * Isabelle
 * Island Tour Creator
 * Jack (only for the "Czar of Halloween" title)
 * Player
 * Villager (Super Smash Bros. series)

As far as I'm aware, no mainline Animal Crossing game has ever had a Portuguese localization, so we only have spin-offs and crossovers to go off of.

First off, I know for sure Villager got their name from stuff like Mario Kart 8 and both versions of Smash 4, which do have Portuguese localizations.

Second, there are only two Animal Crossing spin-offs that have both a Portuguese translation and every character from a mainline installment available: Plaza and amiibo Festival, with both have the entirety of New Leaf's roster (albeit only the vanilla version), with the latter game also having Lottie.

Additionally, Smash 4 features Animal Crossing characters that are not in either of the aforementioned games, those being Wisp, Serena, and Frillard (no idea if the Snow Family appears in amiibo Festival, though ).

From this, we can deduce that every villager and special characters available in vanilla New Leaf, in addition to the ones only in Smash 4, have official Portuguese names. However, going by Isabelle and Harvey's pages, it appears they're all likely just the same as their English ones, so it makes me wonder if there's even a point in listing them (then again, we do have all of the Dutch names listed, but Dutch has at least been used in one mainline installment (New Horizons), not to mention Dom does have a Dutch-exclusive name, that being Donny).

Speaking of Harvey, where did his Portuguese name even come from? None of the games he appears in have Portuguese localizations, so I can only assume it has to have come from non-gaming material.

Finally, although the 3DS and Wii U supposedly support Brazilian Portuguese, according to Mario Wiki, the crossover games I mentioned above (MK8 and Smash 4) only support the European variant. I can't confirm if this is also the case with both Wii U Animal Crossing games, but regardless, I question why the langtables use the Brazilian flag for Portuguese rather than the flag of Portugal (especially since both French and Spanish use the flags from their countries of origin and only use the Quebec and Mexican flags when there are regional differences between both of them).

Overall, the main question of this entire discussion is whether we should list all of the characters' (and perhaps some other stuff, too) Portuguese names and if so, whether we should use the Portuguese flag or the Brazilian flag when referring to the language in the langtables, because I find it rather odd that only 4 characters on this entire Wiki have Portuguese names listed on their pages. The Jacketed   Terrapin  16:51, August 13, 2022 (EDT)
 * Okay, so thanks to Chubby Bub on Discord, we have been able to determine that only amiibo Festival has had a Portuguese translation and it appears only the PAL version has it, likely meaning no Animal Crossing was ever translated in Brazilian Portuguese.
 * Additionally, we have discovered that three villagers do not use their English names, but rather their German ones instead. They are:
 * Tutu, who is named "Mandy".
 * Coco, whose name is spelt "Koko".
 * Frita, who is named "Martina".
 * And as a bonus: Spork is named "Crackle" like how he is called in PAL English, Timmy & Tommy are formatted as "Timmy e Tommy", and Boy and Girl are "Rapaz" and "Rapariga" respectively.
 * Outside of all those, everyone has their English name retained. So now the question is: Do we replace the Brazilian flag with the Portuguese one since we now know only the European variant has been used in an Animal Crossing game? Snapping Turtle NH Icon.pngThe Jacketed   Terrapin Soft-Shelled Turtle NH Icon.png 05:44, September 12, 2022 (EDT)

Successful proposal to (re)separate Doubutsu no Mori+ and Dòngwù Sēnlín
As this will impact a number of articles, I wanted to give a heads up here that Chubby Bub's proposal to (re)separate Doubutsu no Mori+ and Dòngwù Sēnlín content has been successful. The proposal can be viewed here in the proposal archive. For any interested editors, please coordinate with Chubby and others to update our coverage of these games. Cheers, ~ Super  Hamster  Talk Contribs 01:19, August 18, 2022 (EDT)

Question about uploading
How do I source images from Google Search? K o o p e r  23:53, August 25, 2022 (EDT)


 * I think you click on "Copy image address" and paste it in the source thing but I'm not sure. DuckyBlox (talk) 14:27, September 28, 2022 (EDT)


 * Google Search will always list the original source underneath the image, so just click that link to double-check that the image still exists on that website then copy-paste that website link. HylianAngel (talk) 14:34, September 28, 2022 (EDT)

Add "real-life information" section for item pages
Something that I feel like certain item pages (such as, , and ) could have is a real-life information section regarding the origins of the item in real-life. It would help readers to know the item better, especially for the // exclusive items.

What do you think? -- PanchamBro (talk • contributions) 05:13, August 26, 2022 (EDT)


 * Yeah, I had to google some of these things when I first read about them, so I think this is a great idea! 💜Toadalind💜 (talk) 16:19, August 27, 2022 (EDT)
 * Sounds good. Many readers will be unfamiliar with certain Japanese items. Drago   (talk)     Drago PC Villager Icon.png 11:26, September 2, 2022 (EDT)
 * Per everyone. --Dr. Peach (talk) 20:06, September 4, 2022 (EDT)

Terminology change for "Nook Miles Redemption"
" Nook Miles Redemption " as an availability source is somewhat vague as to where it can be obtain. I was thinking that perhaps it could be changed to " Nook Stop (from the "Redeem Nook Miles" section) " for each and every item page currently with "Nook Miles Redemption" and deprecated said source being used. The latter is more accurate as to how the items are obtained. Another idea is to change it to "Nook Mileage Program", but I'm leaning towards "Nook Stop" since that is where the item is purchasable from. Thoughts? -- PanchamBro (talk • contributions) 10:12, September 9, 2022 (EDT)


 * Makes sense since it simplifies due to it being a more generic term that can apply to anything. --Dr. Peach (talk) 19:07, September 9, 2022 (EDT)
 * yeah, it’ll be simpler. 💜Toadalind💜 (talk) 09:13, September 10, 2022 (EDT)

Add villager rarities for NH
Each villager's rarity is determined by their species and personality (the former being for mystery island tours and the latter being for campsite visits). I think we should add villager rarities for NH because NH is the only main series game where villagers can be more common than others. It could also inform people if it's better to invite this villager through mystery island tours or campsite visits (excluding amiibo and other players islands obviously). If mystery island and boat tour chances are there, I think villager rarities can be there too. What do you guys think? K o o p e r  17:01, October 10, 2022 (EDT)
 * Isn't the information on rarity already on Mystery Island Tour or Campsite? Or are you suggesting that we put rarity values for each villager on their page? -- PanchamBro (talk • contributions) 17:29, October 10, 2022 (EDT)
 * I was suggesting on putting the rarity values K  o o p e r N64logo.png 17:34, October 10, 2022 (EDT)
 * For each villager's page? -- PanchamBro (talk • contributions) 18:15, October 10, 2022 (EDT)
 * Pretty much. K  o o p e r N64logo.png 18:24, October 10, 2022 (EDT)
 * I don't necessary agree. I'd argue that those type of information belong to the respective pages I've mentioned above. -- PanchamBro (talk • contributions) 00:02, October 11, 2022 (EDT)
 * While it could go to those respective pages, I meant adding rarities for every villager (excluding sanrio). So I guess it could go either way. K  o o p e r N64logo.png 00:31, October 11, 2022 (EDT)
 * I'm unclear what data could be added involving campsites for villagers. While it's true the personality determines it, the increased chances of the camper are based on which personalities you don't have living in your town, which will be different per player. Excluding that, the save file records villagers you've had in your town/campsite before, and if they've "lived" there before, they do not have a chance of spawning in your campsite (until you've seen everyone). So for campsite, although personality helps determine it, there's not really a concrete or unique % you can add to, say, a cranky villager's page that would be different from a jock villager's page. It would be better to detail this information on the Campsite page, where it can be explained more comprehensively.
 * For Mystery Island Tours, the percentage can vary greatly depending on who lives on your island. You can greatly increase the chances of the appearances of other species by having all 3 octopi or all 7 rhinos living on your island. Even without eliminating a species, villagers who already live on your island will alter all related species percentages (like if you had 1 cat, 1 dog, 1 monkey, 3 pigs, etc. the ranges for everything changes). So this would make it difficult to add a % to NH boxes, it would be a pretty big range that might not be very helpful. It would also be better to detail this information on the Mystery Island Tour page where it can be explained more comprehensively.
 * Additionally, the NH villager boxes detail "unique" aspects that are different from other villagers of the same species and personality; for example, the Petal Parasol was chosen for Azalea because of her unique flower theme, it was not applied to all rhinos or all snooties. Other villagers may have the Petal Parasol, but it was not uniformly applied to all of them due to their species or personality. Mystery Island Tour percentages are uniformly applied to all characters of a species, making virtually no difference between Azalea, Tank, Merengue, etc., it's a species aspect and not a unique villager aspect. HylianAngel (talk) 02:16, October 11, 2022 (EDT)

Common name situation
There was a lot of discussions earlier about renaming Zipper T. Bunny to Zipper here but the gist here is that as it stands our Manuel of Style does not currently have a criteria for what page title to use for a special character. suggested 4 different naming system in that discussion, so to recap:


 * Naming system #1 suggests to use the datamined nameplates from the special characters as the title of their page (e.g. K.K. Slider -> K.K.).
 * Naming system #2 suggests to use the full name of the special characters as the title of their page (e.g. Mabel -> Mabel Able).
 * Naming system #3 suggests to use the name that the special character first introduces themselves, so the two outliers would be "Don Resetti" to "Don" and "Zipper T. Bunny" to "Zipper".
 * Naming system #4 suggests to use the common name as per Wikipedia's policy. It will require more thorough research with each names, but HylianAngel does mention some examples in the talk page discussion as I pointed out before.

Would like to hear some thoughts about this. As it stands, it's an inconsistent structure for some special characters to use their full names, and some to not use their full names. -- PanchamBro (talk • contributions) 17:00, October 13, 2022 (EDT)


 * To me, the fourth option is the obvious way to go. None of the first three options are appropriate if applied all characters. The current way is basically the fourth because it's the most intuitive for an encyclopedia to use, and it's not an "inconsistent structure" because the system is to use the name that best identifies the article to the reader without prior knowledge of the character. Imagine saying "do you know X? They're a character from Animal Crossing." These are the names used to refer to the character as a whole, telling you who they are, not just their name. And let me use this to demonstrate why the other three options are wrong for certain characters, even while they do work fine for others:


 * 1) K.K. Slider is a stage name for which "K.K." is just an abbreviation of anyway. If you're talking about him without assumption of prior knowledge, he's "K.K. Slider". Otherwise, he's familiarly, and when speaking to him, "K.K." It obviously helps no one to call the page "K.K." by itself. Similarly for Don, see my explanation following.


 * 2) Mabel is hardly ever known as "Mabel Able", to everyone she's just Mabel. Calling the page "Mabel Able" would be like calling K.K. Slider's page Totakeke (in English, a name he uses, but only ever once, by himself to introduce himself.) And I don't know if "Sonny Resetti" is actually ever put together in dialogue. He says in, and : "Name's Resetti. Mr. Resetti." However, the lead's  should use the full name, which is currently done.


 * 3) is much the same as 1), as these characters introduce themselves to be familiar. And that's only in, which shouldn't necessarily take priority— just because "T. Bunny" isn't used in it doesn't mean "Zipper T. Bunny" isn't his name, and it would usually by used by someone to introduce the character. If he had a different name like Bliss/Caroline, that'd be a different case. Another example, the title "Don Resetti" is commonly used because it identifies him as Mr. Resetti's brother. Further proving my point on the most common name, in Resetti himself says "The name's Resetti. Most people call me Mr. Resetti, on account of me bein' a respected member of the community and such."


 * For further examples, see 's breakdown on the Zipper talk page (I can call him that here because he's been established). However, her breakdown of #4 is mistaken because the intention of WP:COMMONNAME is the most commonly used (i.e. recognizable) name by people and therefore readers, so this would not be just what appears the most in the game dialogue, though that is a factor. (That's not to say we should use fan names like "terraforming", which is a great redirect and belongs in the lead, but is never used in-game and a misnomer.)


 * This was a long response, but in the end I strongly the use of a single type of name being applied to anyone (#1-3), and think we should use the most recognizable, commonly used name ( #4)— which, with the possible exception of Dr. Shrunk, whom I have been wondering about for a while, is what is currently in place. Chubby Bub (talk) 03:21, October 14, 2022 (EDT)
 * option #4 per Chubby Bub; it makes the most sense to use the name most people refer to the characters by. ~ AlexBot2004  ( Talk ) 14:39, October 14, 2022 (EDT)


 * I also a single type of name for special characters and would strongly  using the #4 naming structure to remove any sort of confusion for any users new to the series or just overall unfamiliar with the other names those characters went by. Keeping to their most commonly used name will just just overall make it easier, regardless of the inconsistencies of their format/structuring. ~  Poizon  Mushro0m PoizonMush Sig.png 17:39, October 16, 2022 (EDT)

Infoboxes and "names in other languages"
I don't think infoboxes should contain a "names in other languages" section. Here are the reasons why it doesn't make sense:


 * 1) Many articles, such as villager articles, duplicate this identical information again near the bottom of the page. Having it listed twice is redundant.
 * 2) Due to the information being listed twice, there are scenarios where the info may be listed in the infobox but not in the dedicated section of the article, and vice versa. This creates syncing errors. (See the most recent version of the Shampoodle page, where some entries are present in the infobox but not in the dedicated section.)
 * 3) Just as villager names having a dedicated "names in other languages" section allows for more detailed information involving interesting name trivia, moving all of the villager catchphrases from the infobox to its own language section at the bottom of the page allows for editors to add more detailed information involving interesting catchphrase trivia. (I'm not as sure about item pages, where identically-named items across several mainline games would need to be monitored to be synced.)
 * 4) I don't really view tall infoboxes as an issue, but some may view the unnecessarily tall infoboxes as a problem, especially on mobile. Removing the duplicated information from the infobox would help a bit with the tall infobox issue.
 * 5) While we don't need to necessarily follow the practices of other wikis, other wikis typically do not list language info section in the infoboxes, and they just keep this information in the dedicated section.

Would people be in support of removing the "names in other languages" from infoboxes? The language information will still exist, it just will only be listed once at the bottom of the article, rather than listed twice. This idea would need to be pushed as a proposal, since it will affect a lot of pages. HylianAngel (talk) 05:11, October 22, 2022 (EDT)
 * I think I would like this concept, but I'm not entirely sure with item pages. I also think it's going to be difficult trying to copy each and every single language parameter into Foreignname, and mass-romanization them is difficult due to lack of good options. -- PanchamBro (talk • contributions) 10:08, October 22, 2022 (EDT)

Proposal to not create individual amiibo pages
This may be an odd proposal, but I suggest that we do not create individual pages for amiibo cards and figures. While there was no proposal that we should create these pages, the idea was posed in some of the comments on the successful proposal to create individual e-Reader card pages. This proposal set sort of a precedent that since e-cards will get pages, amiibo will too, and they were even part of this proposal as if it had already been confirmed that we would create these pages.

The reason I think we shouldn't create amiibo pages is that there simply isn't enough information to warrant individual pages. The in-game functionality of the cards and figures is broad enough that it can be (and is) covered on the amiibo page. It would be redundant to note this info on individual card pages, and there isn't really anything unique about each individual card that can't be placed in the A-card template on the respective character's page.

This would also clear up the issue we ran into about what to name the namespace the e-Reader card pages will be placed in (see here), as we would only be creating e-card pages anyway. ~ AlexBot2004  ( Talk ) 13:32, October 24, 2022 (EDT)
 * So I'm the person who suggested that we create pages on amiibo cards and figures, and from reading the proposal, while I think there aren't many in-game functions with them, there are many instances that the amiibo are used in other titles like Smash Bros. But I think that belongs on the amiibo page if anything. For the moment though, I  this proposal. -- PanchamBro (talk • contributions) 13:54, October 24, 2022 (EDT)

Move special character quotes to be inside infobox
After further evaluation and the implementation of NHSpecialCharacterInfo, I was thinking to move the quote present on many character's that are basically their favorite saying (or "quote") from their picture to the main Infobox Special template. And at the same time, replace it with a quote that is directly from the games, perhaps their most notable ones.

What do you think? -- PanchamBro (talk • contributions) 11:09, October 26, 2022 (EDT)