Talk:List of villagers

New table concerns
We need to verify all the villagers are listed. There are 457 pages in Category:Villagers, so we need to make sure everyone is accounted for. It should also be noted, however, that a certain other wiki notes that there are currently 460 villagers, which means we may have a few villager pages that have not been added to our villagers category (or their count is off). If anyone has any ideas on how to verify the count, do tell... or just go ahead and count them. :P

Next, we need to figure out whether we want to keep the other list pages. I personally think they aren't of much use as you can sort the master list by game if you need to. It may be beneficial to have a list of islanders, a list of special visitors/NPCs, a list of birthdays, and a list of NPC names in foreign languages, which we could link to at the top instead of the lists by game.  ( talk )  17:04, July 15, 2015 (EDT)


 * Exactly 460 villagers? It could be just rounded-up. To verify the count, we don't have to actually count. Just chunk it; check the corresponding bird pages, smug pages, birthday pages, and so on, and just compare and see who's missing. We really don't need a "list of villagers by game" though, since it's redundant with this list. What's not already listed there can be put into other lists. Finally, one more thing, I'd prefer if we elaborate on the tree icons. Perhaps we can place the game initials in each appearance cell so users don't have to constantly scroll up and down to find which column corresponds to which game, so it would be nice to instantly tell what column is which the further you scroll down. 22:55, July 15, 2015 (EDT)


 * Well if we compare the master list to smaller lists, we're still making the assumption that those smaller lists are all correct. Then again, it's unlikely that the villager in question would be missing from BOTH lists... or maybe it is likely? I'll check them anyway and let you know. >.> I'll go ahead and blank/redirect the 'List of villagers in [game]' pages later today then. I'll probably save some of the data though since it will contain info like birthdays and debut titles for villagers... stuff we might put in another table. I definitely agree with you on the tree icon business! I'll think on it and see what I can come up with. I want to try and keep the simplicity of the icons with some sort of subtle indication of the game in each cell. Sunmarshsignature.png  ( talk )  00:05, July 16, 2015 (EDT)


 * As for the tree icon thing, I was thinking about inserting game initials rather than icons and giving them a color (green denoting villager, orange denoting islander, and gray denoting absence) although I don't know how well that would work out, especially when it comes to reordering the lists by clicking on the black up/down arrows and all. But since you do want those icons, I suppose adding the game initials near them could also work. 15:51, July 16, 2015 (EDT)


 * Alright, I've updated Template:Ya and Template:Ia to allow for the addition of game notes in the lower right hand corner. You can see what this would look like on the list of islanders table I've already updated. What do you think? Should the grey cells also have a game abbreviation? Sunmarshsignature.png  ( talk )  21:30, July 22, 2015 (EDT)
 * Latey late, but I do like it with the initials more. It's much easier to tell which column is which now, although not a necessary change, would centering the initials look better? 21:38, August 11, 2015 (EDT)

Villager count confirmation
I took the time to create a master villager list compiled from Liquefy's gamefaqs guides and confirmed that there are 456 villagers total in the series so far. I have removed the two remaining erroneous entries in Category:Villagers (cranky and villagers) so that the category only includes villagers, and corrected the villager total on this page.  ( talk )  18:53, August 10, 2015 (EDT)
 * So I was correct that the "460" figure is rounded up or likely a fault in recalling information (I think we're better at remembering round numbers). All right, good job! 21:40, August 11, 2015 (EDT)

Untitled
It says "104 villagers have appeared in all mainline games, but only 24 villagers have appeared in every Animal Crossing series game including spin-offs." on this page. But who are the "24" villagers that appeared in everything? The page has a big table with a section called "Appearance by game". By my count, 30 characters have appeared in all 8 titles (Doubutsu no Mori, Animal Crossing, Doubutsu no Mori e+, Wild World, City Folk, New Leaf, Happy Home Designer, and Pocket Camp) under the "Appearance by game" section. These 30 characters are: Alfonso Apollo Bill Bluebear Bob Bunnie Butch Dotty Egbert Eloise Filbert Goldie Goose Jay Lily Lobo Maple Mitzi Peanut Peewee Pierce Roald Robin Rosie Snake Static Twiggy Vesta Wolfgang. Should the number "24" be changed to 30?


 * For some reason, there is no information for on the list of villagers. Maybe only 24 villagers have appeared in all games including amiibo Festival? Unfortunately, I have no clue how many villagers appear in that game.  Drago   (talk)     Drago PC Villager Icon.png 11:12, July 11, 2018 (EDT)

e+ Islanders
So I noticed that the table doesn't even tell if an e+ villager was an islander or not. We should probably fix that. TurtleCrossing (talk) 17:58, March 17, 2020 (EDT)
 * it would probably be best, actually, if the template were to include a column for DnM e+ rather than lumping it in with Animal crossing. Cuz it's kinda odd that DnM e+ is the only game not actually included in the template. DnM is separate from AC/DnM+, so why not have DnM e+ be separate as well? Nikkie2571 (talk) 17:44, April 12, 2020 (EDT)
 * That's not exactly the thing I was talking about, though. What I'm saying is that there should be an indicator that a certain e+ villager is an islander. I said nothing about merging DnMe+ with the DnM+/PG. TurtleCrossing (talk) 19:14, April 12, 2020 (EDT)
 * nonono, you misunderstand! The chart is *currently* lumping DnMe+ in with AC/DnM+, their added villagers are represented in the same column. if DnMe+ had it's *own* column then everything would be better! Nikkie2571 (talk) 19:18, April 12, 2020 (EDT)
 * Like, the chart currently has all DnMe+ villagers designated using an eReader symbol in the AC/DnM+ column, which is kinda odd and kinda dumb. But, if DnMe+ had its own column then that eReader symbol could be done away with and separate "villager" and "islander" designations could be used for the DnMe+ villagers! Nikkie2571 (talk) 19:21, April 12, 2020 (EDT)
 * To be fair, all of the e+-exclusive villagers (as well as all of the islanders in that game, even the ones from DnM+/PG) are e-Reader exclusive anyway, so I could still see that symbol having some use (Though in that case, then we'd also need some special indicator for the DLC villagers in WW, HHD, and Wa). TurtleCrossing (talk) 19:48, April 12, 2020 (EDT)
 * well, if DnMe+ had its own column, the eReader symbol could be used for the eReader exclusive villagers while the islander icon can be used for *all* islanders, since their function, while slightly changed in DnMe+, is universal between them Nikkie2571 (talk) 20:11, April 12, 2020 (EDT)
 * Additionally, a new "wifi" symbol could be used for the DLC villagers, since all of them were only available via wireless means (WW had Tag mode facilitated local distribution stations, HHD had Nintendo zone based DLC, and Wa was purely wi-fi based events (to my knowledge))

Happy Home Designer villagers
The article indicates there are 6 villagers that are new/returning to HHD. 2 new and 4 returning, with 5 of the 6 available as DLC. But by my multiple counts, there was only 5. New: Filly, Felyne / Returning: Claude, Louie, Maddie. All of these characters were available via DLC. So who am I missing? Who is the one character that returned, but wasn’t available via DLC? Or is this an error that needs fixing?--TapDatApp (talk) 02:24, April 19, 2020 (EDT)
 * carrie was available in the base game as a required client, but was unavailable in New Leaf until the Welcome Amiibo update Nikkie2571 (talk) 02:27, April 19, 2020 (EDT)
 * Thank you very much, I couldn’t figure this out for the life of me.--TapDatApp (talk) 02:36, April 19, 2020 (EDT)

Adding a column to the table so AC(PG)/DnM+ and DnMe+ no longer have to share
In order to better reflect the actual information of which villagers are in which game (as the DnMe+ villagers *aren't* in Animal Crossing for GameCube, and DnMe+ is a full game in its own right) DnMe+ should be given its own column. This would also allow for the DnMe+ exclusive islanders to be identified in the table as well, another additional benefit. Hopefully, no one will disagree with me, though I see no reason why anyone would prefer to keep the table as it currently is. If no one does disagree, can someone please go ahead and do that, since, due to an unfortunate lack of experience with wikis, I do not know how to do so. Nikkie2571 (talk) 03:09, April 19, 2020 (EDT)
 * I'm pretty sure there actually used to be a column for DnMe+, though I guess it was merged with Animal Crossing at some point (to save space?) Personally I'm in favour of splitting it out again, since e+ introduced a huge number of villagers and was an entirely separate release to Animal Crossing (unlike Welcome amiibo to New Leaf). Though I'd be interested to hear what others think. As an alternative, we could implement a distinct cell for the e+ islanders if that option seems preferable. --Shark HHD Icon.png Dorsal Axe  (talk) 03:34, April 19, 2020 (EDT)
 * while adding a unique symbol for the e+ islanders would be more accurately displaying the villager information, I actually don't think it would be much of an improvement. Not only would it imply some kind of difference between the e+ islanders and the original islanders even though they are functionally the same (even if, as a whole, they function slightly different from AC. But this is due to differences between the games rather than differences between the Islanders) it would be adding a new type of category of villager when it would be simpler to just add the game to the table, since no new template resources would have to be made, AND it wouldn't be solving the issue that DnMe+ is it's own game as you mentioned. Nikkie2571 (talk) 04:23, April 19, 2020 (EDT)
 * so, in the nine days it's been since I proposed this edit, only one person has responded, and with no outright objections to the proposed edit. So, I assume that no one has any objections to the proposal and someone can go forth and make the edit (or tell someone else how to do it (such as myself because I don't actually know how))Nikkie2571 (talk) 00:21, April 29, 2020 (EDT)