Talk:Secret song

Separate pages for NH invalid songs
I am proposing independent pages are also created for the invalid songs in. Here is why:


 * These are actual songs in the game's code. They are included in the game's internal list of songs, and have unobtainable items with parameters for music items. The item names, regardless of language, are "はずれ01", "はずれ02", and "はずれ03" respectively. Each K.K. song also has an internal name, used both for the audio file and as an item parameter. (e.g. "K.K. Chorale"'s internal name is "Sanbika".) For these songs, they are simply "Hazure01", "Hazure02", and "Hazure03"— pretty straightforward.
 * This wiki had pages for "Animal City", "Drivin", and "Farewell" long before ; the only difference was the names for these songs were (roughly) known because they were included in the game files instead of being given placeholder names. I say roughly because they were the Japanese names, so the latter two pages used to be called "Drive" and "Goodbye". Thankfully the official English names ended up being pretty similar, or the same in the first case.
 * As a note, these songs also have numbers, once again both in the audio files and item parameters. Oddly, unlike past games where invalid songs were given the next three numbers, they are #901, #902, and #903. I suspect in the next game they will actually be #96, #97, and #98.

So, I think these songs merit their own pages titled "Hazure01", "Hazure02" and "Hazure03" (italicized because these are transliterations of the actual item names), as currently these are the official names. Whenever the next game comes out and these are given actual names and numbers, we can change them. Chubby Bub (talk) 21:28, May 24, 2021 (EDT)
 * I don't really think the invalid songs in their current state have enough material to warrant their own pages. Perhaps the mechanic of invalid songs could be its own page (but even then, I'm 50/50 on that idea), but for each and every current invalid song to have its own page, I don't think it's worth the effort. Snapping Turtle NH.png TurtleCrossing of the  Turtle Tribe Soft-Shelled Turtle NH.png 22:10, May 24, 2021 (EDT)
 * I don't think invalid songs as a mechanic need their own page, because that's closely intertwined with secret songs and is aptly described here. I suppose we could also just create the pages to redirect to the "In " section of this page. Speaking of which, something I've failed to mention is that the links at the very least will be necessary, whether their own pages or redirects— for people searching for the song, linking on other music pages ("Hazure01" is already referenced on several pages due to being a remix of the WW/CF title), and I think they should be at least mentioned beyond "invalid songs exist" at List of K.K. Slider songs. I guess to reiterate my thinking: they are unobtainable, but they are still K.K. songs. Chubby Bub (talk) 22:28, May 24, 2021 (EDT)
 * I would redirecting these to Secret song, but I would  creating individual pages for them since there's not really to much to say about them aside from their composition, which is already noted on the secret song page. ~  AlexBot2004  ( Talk ) 22:33, May 24, 2021 (EDT)
 * Yeah, I think redirects are the best way to go, so I that, as well. Snapping Turtle NH.png TurtleCrossing  of the  Turtle Tribe Soft-Shelled Turtle NH.png 22:37, May 24, 2021 (EDT)
 * for the redirect, for individual pages, though as a sidenote, I do think we should also list the live versions of the invalid  songs in Secret songs. -- PanchamBro (talk • contributions) 22:58, May 24, 2021 (EDT)
 * Like everyone else has said, for redirects,  for separate pages. There isn't much info on invalid songs for them to have their own page. ~  Vivian   (talk)     Vivian DnMe+ Minigame.png 23:01, May 24, 2021 (EDT)
 * When the next Animal Crossing game comes out and these are obtainable songs with proper names, they need their own pages. But until then, I the redirects. Sirfetch&#39;d (talk) 08:34, May 27, 2021 (EDT)

Redirects, Their on pages till more info come about the songs. Petaldancer66😺 Petaldancer66 talk 23:34, June 17, 2021 (EDT)

"Forest" text input for Forest Life?
This page and an earlier version of the Forest Life page state that inputting the word "Forest" (on this page) or "forest" (on the Forest Life page) will have K.K. play it in games prior to. On the Forest Life page, it used to be uppercase "Forest" until converted it to lowercase "forest." The original statement was written by. However, it was removed from the Forest Life page by after a claim that it doesn't work (see here).


 * Does this rule only apply to ?
 * Is it case-sensitive or not?
 * Does inputting this English word work in and ? Would it work if the Japanese equivalents, もり or 森, are inputted?

This needs to be clearer so that the information can either be removed from this page or re-added back to the Forest Life page. HylianAngel (talk) 19:20, October 23, 2022 (EDT)


 * I added that statement based on the old revision of "Forest Life" assuming that page was accurate, but haven't personally tested it myself. It seems a bit fishy, so I'd be inclined to remove it for the time being until we can get a proper confirmation. StrawberryChan (talk) 19:26, October 23, 2022 (EDT)
 * ...Wait, no, I added it there, too? I know I saw someone make that claim somewhere. FANDOM, maybe? Sorry for the confusion. StrawberryChan (talk) 19:29, October 23, 2022 (EDT)