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[[File:Forgery_detected.jpg|250px|thumb|[[Blathers]] commenting on the forgery in {{NL|short}}.]]
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[[File:Forgery detected.jpg|250px|thumb|[[Blathers]] commenting on the forgery in {{NL|short}}]]
A '''forgery''' is an article of [[Art]] that is fake, that may be obtained from [[Crazy Redd's]] or, starting in {{NL|short|nolink}}, from a [[villager]]. Compared to authentic pieces of art, forgeries are close to worthless: they may not be donated to [[Blathers]] at the [[Museum]] and are worth zero [[Happy Room Academy]] (Happy Home Academy in {{NL|short|nolink}}) points. Prior to {{NL|short|nolink}}, there is no way to determine whether a piece of art is fake or not prior to purchasing it.<ref name="WW-LethalLink99" /><ref name="WW-Liquefy" /><ref name="CF-Liquefy" />
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A '''forgery''' is a piece of [[art]] that is fake, that may be obtained from [[Crazy Redd's]] or, starting in {{NL|short|nolink}}, from a [[villager]]. Compared to authentic pieces of art, forgeries are close to worthless: they may not be donated to [[Blathers]] at the [[museum]] and are worth zero [[Happy Room Academy]] (Happy Home Academy in {{NL|short|nolink}}) points. Forgeries first appeared in {{WW}} and appear in all subsequent games. Prior to {{NL|short|nolink}}, there is no way to determine whether a piece of art is fake or not prior to purchasing it.
  
==Prior to {{WW}}==
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==Appearances==
In {{PG}} and related titles, all paintings sold in [[Tom Nook's store]], the [[catalog]], or at Crazy Redd's are authentic, although [[Redd]] charges the [[player]] four times than how much they would actually cost when purchased from the catalog.<ref name="PG-Liquefy-ItemList" />
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===In {{WW|short|nolink}}===
 
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[[File:WW Forgery.jpg|thumb|Blathers commenting that the painting given is fake in {{WW|short|nolink}}.]]
==In {{WW}}==
 
 
[[Tom Nook]] still sells paintings, although they are [[spotlight items]] and only the [[Famous Painting]] and [[Fine Painting]] are available for purchase. Outside the catalog, the primary method of acquiring new paintings is from Crazy Redd's, for double the regular price. Contrary to popular belief, there is no way to determine whether a painting is authentic or not prior to purchasing it, and Redd does not give any hints either.<ref name="WW-LethalLink99" />
 
[[Tom Nook]] still sells paintings, although they are [[spotlight items]] and only the [[Famous Painting]] and [[Fine Painting]] are available for purchase. Outside the catalog, the primary method of acquiring new paintings is from Crazy Redd's, for double the regular price. Contrary to popular belief, there is no way to determine whether a painting is authentic or not prior to purchasing it, and Redd does not give any hints either.<ref name="WW-LethalLink99" />
  
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If damage [[insurance]] is bought from [[Lyle]], and a forged painting is given to him, the player will be mailed 100 Bells.<ref name="WW-LethalLink99" />
 
If damage [[insurance]] is bought from [[Lyle]], and a forged painting is given to him, the player will be mailed 100 Bells.<ref name="WW-LethalLink99" />
  
==In {{CF}}==
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===In {{CF|short|nolink}}===
[[File:Forgery.jpg|thumb|Blathers commenting on the forgery in {{CF|short|nolink}}.]]
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[[File:Forgery Detected (City Folk).jpg|thumb|Blathers commenting on the forgery in {{CF|short|nolink}}]]
  
 
Out of all paintings, only the [[Basic Painting]] and the [[Common Painting]] are spotlight items, leaving the rest of the paintings obtainable only from Crazy Redd's. In addition, artwork can no longer be purchased from the catalog, which means paintings that were obtained before can only be bought again from Redd.<ref name="CF-Liquefy-ItemList" />
 
Out of all paintings, only the [[Basic Painting]] and the [[Common Painting]] are spotlight items, leaving the rest of the paintings obtainable only from Crazy Redd's. In addition, artwork can no longer be purchased from the catalog, which means paintings that were obtained before can only be bought again from Redd.<ref name="CF-Liquefy-ItemList" />
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Similar to {{WW|short|nolink}}, forgeries may be sold to Tom Nook or Timmy and Tommy for 10 Bells.<ref name="CF-Liquefy-ItemList" />
 
Similar to {{WW|short|nolink}}, forgeries may be sold to Tom Nook or Timmy and Tommy for 10 Bells.<ref name="CF-Liquefy-ItemList" />
  
==In {{NL}}==
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===In {{NL|short|nolink}}===
[[File:CrazyLeaf.JPG|thumb|Inside [[Crazy Redd's]] in {{NL|short|nolink}}. Notice the forged Wistful Painting (left) and Famous Painting (right).]]
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{{See also|Forgery/New Leaf}}
Articles of art (that is, paintings and statues) are no longer sold at [[Timmy and Tommy's store]], leaving the player with Crazy Redd's as the primary means of acquiring art. Compared to older versions, however, Redd offers four articles of art every time he sets up his tent, and determining an artwork's authenticity just by looking at it (that is, before purchasing) is now possible. In addition, some paintings, such as the Calm Painting, are guaranteed to be authentic.
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[[File:CrazyLeaf.JPG|thumb|250px|Inside [[Crazy Redd's]] in {{NL|short|nolink}}. Notice the forged Wistful Painting (left) and Famous Painting (right)]]
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Paintings and statues are no longer sold at [[Timmy and Tommy's store]], leaving the player with Crazy Redd's as the primary means of acquiring art. Compared to older versions, however, Redd offers four articles of art every time he sets up his tent, and determining an artwork's authenticity just by looking at it (that is, before purchasing) is now possible. In addition, some paintings, such as the Calm Painting, are guaranteed to be authentic.
  
 
It is possible that Redd offers two authentic pieces of art<ref name="NL-two-reals?" /> (although only one may be purchased). It is also possible that he will offer none.<ref name="NL-no-reals?" /> Feng shui appears to affect the probability of more (or less) genuine pieces of art appearing.<ref name="NL-Liquefy" />
 
It is possible that Redd offers two authentic pieces of art<ref name="NL-two-reals?" /> (although only one may be purchased). It is also possible that he will offer none.<ref name="NL-no-reals?" /> Feng shui appears to affect the probability of more (or less) genuine pieces of art appearing.<ref name="NL-Liquefy" />
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Blathers, Timmy and Tommy, and [[Reese]] will identify that an artwork is fake—the former will refuse to accept the forgery, whereas the latter two will charge the player a disposal fee of 100 Bells.
 
Blathers, Timmy and Tommy, and [[Reese]] will identify that an artwork is fake—the former will refuse to accept the forgery, whereas the latter two will charge the player a disposal fee of 100 Bells.
  
===Spotting a Fake===
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===In {{NH|short|nolink}}===
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{{See also|Forgery/New Horizons}}
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[[File:NH Forgery Detected.jpg|thumb|left|300px|Blathers detecting a forgery in {{NH|nolink}}.]]
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Paintings and sculptures are sold at [[Jolly Redd's Treasure Trawler]] following the 1.2.0 update. Like in {{NL}}, forgeries have visible differences once again. However, the differences are not the same as in {{NL}}. Like before, Redd may have more than one genuine artwork in stock (although the player can only buy one), or he may have none at all. When buying an artwork, the player will have the option of looking closely at it.
  
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Blathers or Timmy and Tommy will identify if an artwork is a forgery; should that be the case, Blathers will refuse to donate it to the museum and Timmy or Tommy will refuse to buy the artwork. The only way to dispose the fake artwork is to use a waste bin furniture item.
 
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{{Clear}}
{| class="wikitable" style="border: 2px solid #A3CB7C; background:#D7F1B4; width=90%"
 
|- style="{{roundy}} border: 2px solid #78AB46; background:#A3CB7C; padding:0.2em 0.3em"
 
! style="width=20%" | Name
 
! style="width=20%" | Genuine
 
! style="width=20%" | Forgery
 
! Description
 
|-
 
! style="background:#D7F1B4; color:#000000;" colspan="4" align="center" | Paintings
 
|-
 
| [[Amazing Painting]] || [[File:Amazing Painting (New Leaf).png|200x200px|center]] || [[File:Amazing Painting (New Leaf) fake.png|200x200px|center]] || If the man in white is on the left and the man in black is on the right, it is fake. If the man in white is on the right and the man in black is on the left, it is genuine.
 
|-
 
| [[Basic Painting]] || [[File:Basic Painting (New Leaf).png|200x200px|center]]  || [[File:Basic Painting (New Leaf) fake.png|200x200px|center]] || If both of his arms are bent at his sides, it is fake. If only one of his arms is bent, it is genuine.
 
|-
 
| [[Calm Painting]] || colspan="2" | [[File:Calm Painting (New Leaf).png|200x200px|center]] || This painting is always genuine.
 
|-
 
| [[Common Painting]] || colspan="2" | [[File:Common Painting (New Leaf).png|200x200px|center]] || This painting is always genuine.
 
|-
 
| [[Dynamic Painting]] || [[File:Dynamic Painting (New Leaf).png|200x200px|center]] || [[File:Dynamic Painting (New Leaf) fake.png|200x200px|center]] || In the fake, Mt. Fuji is very large and takes up most of the space under the wave. If Mt. Fuji is small, it is genuine.
 
|-
 
| [[Famous Painting]] || [[File:Famous Painting (New Leaf).png|200x200px|center]] || [[File:Famous Painting (New Leaf) fake.png|200x200px|center]] || If her fingers are pointing to the bottom left corner of the picture, it is fake. If her fingers are pointing to the bottom right corner of the picture, it is genuine.
 
|-
 
| [[Fine Painting]] || colspan="2" | [[File:Fine Painting (New Leaf).png|200x200px|center]] || This painting is always genuine.
 
|-
 
| [[Flowery Painting]] || colspan="2" | [[File:Flowery Painting (New Leaf).png|200x200px|center]] || This painting is always genuine.
 
|-
 
| [[Graceful Painting]] || [[File:Graceful Painting (New Leaf).png|200x200px|center]] || [[File:Graceful Painting (New Leaf) fake.png|200x200px|center]] || If she is looking to the left, it is fake. If she is looking to the right, it is genuine.
 
|-
 
| [[Jolly Painting]] || [[File:Jolly Painting (New Leaf).png|200x200px|center]]  || [[File:Fake Jolly Painting (New Leaf).png|200x200px|center]] || If the nose is made of a carrot and has green leaves hanging down, it is fake. If the nose is made of a green vegetable, it's genuine.
 
|-
 
| [[Moody Painting]] || colspan="2" | [[File:Moody Painting (New Leaf).png|200x200px|center]] || This painting is always genuine.
 
|-
 
| [[Moving Painting]] || [[File:Moving Painting (New Leaf).png|200x200px|center]] || [[File:Moving Painting (New Leaf) fake.png|200x200px|center]] || The fake has an upside-down shell.
 
|-
 
| [[Neutral Painting]] || [[File:Neutral Painting (New Leaf).png|200x200px|center]] || [[File:Neutral Painting (New Leaf) fake.png|200x200px|center]] || If the big green leaf on the top left has a hole in it from being eaten by insects, it is fake. If there is no hole made by insects in the big green leaf, it is genuine.
 
|-
 
| [[Nice Painting]] || colspan="2" | [[File:Nice Painting (New Leaf).png|200x200px|center]] || This painting is always genuine.
 
|-
 
| [[Perfect Painting]] || colspan="2" | [[File:Perfect Painting (New Leaf).png|200x200px|center]] || This painting is always genuine.
 
|-
 
| [[Proper Painting]] || colspan="2" | [[File:Proper Painting (New Leaf).png|200x200px|center]] || This painting is always genuine.
 
|-
 
| [[Quaint Painting]] || [[File:Quaint Painting (New Leaf).png|200x200px|center]] || [[File:Quaint Painting (New Leaf) fake.png|200x200px|center]] || If she is not wearing a hat, it is fake. If she is wearing a white hat, it is genuine.
 
|-
 
| [[Scary Painting]] || [[File:Scary Painting (New Leaf).png|200x200px|center]] || [[File:Scary Painting (New Leaf) fake.png|200x200px|center]] || If he is only pointing one finger of each hand, it is fake. If he has all fingers sticking out, it is genuine.
 
|-
 
| [[Scenic Painting]] || colspan="2" | [[File:Scenic Painting (New Leaf).png|200x200px|center]] || This painting is always genuine.
 
|-
 
| [[Serene Painting]] || [[File:Serene Painting (New Leaf).png|200x200px|center]] || [[File:Serene Painting (New Leaf) fake.png|200x200px|center]] || If she is holding a fluffy white cat, it is fake. If she is holding a skinny white ermine, it is genuine.
 
|-
 
| [[Solemn Painting]] || [[File:Solemn Painting (New Leaf).png|200x200px|center]] || [[File:Solemn Painting (New Leaf) fake.png|200x200px|center]] || If the blonde girl is twice as tall as the girl to the left, it is fake. If the blonde girl is close to the same height as the girl to the left, it is genuine.
 
|-
 
| [[Warm Painting]] || colspan="2" | [[File:Warm Painting (New Leaf).png|200x200px|center]] || This painting is always genuine.
 
|-
 
| [[Wild Painting]] || [[File:Wild Painting (New Leaf).png|200x200px|center]] || [[File:Wild Painting (New Leaf) fake.png|200x200px|center]] || If the dark one is on the left and the light one is on the right, it is fake. If the light one is on the left and the dark one is on the right, it is genuine.
 
|-
 
| [[Wistful Painting]] || [[File:Wistful Painting (New Leaf).png|200x200px|center]] || [[File:Wistful Painting (New Leaf) fake.png|200x200px|center]] || If her hat is red, it is fake. If her hat is blue, it is genuine.
 
|-
 
| [[Worthy Painting]] || colspan="2" | [[File:Worthy Painting (New Leaf).png|200x200px|center]] || This painting is always genuine.
 
|-
 
 
 
! style="background:#D7F1B4; color:#000000;" colspan="4" align="center" | Statues
 
|-
 
| [[Ancient Statue]] || [[File:Ancient_Statue_(New_Leaf).png]] || [[File:Fake_Ancient_Statue_(New_Leaf).png]] || If its eyes are open, it is fake. If its eyes are closed, it is genuine.
 
|-
 
| [[Beautiful Statue]] || [[File:Beautiful_Statue_(New_Leaf).png]] || || If she has long hair down to her shoulders, it is fake. If her hair goes down to cover only her ears, it is genuine.
 
|-
 
| [[Gallant Statue]] || [[File:David_statue.png]] || || If there is cloth hanging down his right shoulder, it is fake. If his right shoulder is bare, it is genuine.
 
|-
 
| [[Great Statue]] || [[File:Great_statue.jpg]] || || If his fingers are pointing straight out, it is fake. If his fingers are pointing upward, it is genuine.
 
|-
 
| [[Motherly Statue]] || [[File:Motherly_Statue_(New_Leaf).png]] || [[File:Fake_Motherly_Statue_(New_Leaf).png]] || If there is only one child below the wolf, it is fake. If there are two children, it is genuine.
 
|-
 
| [[Mystic Statue]] || [[File:Mystic_Statue_(New_Leaf).png]] || [[File:Fake_Mystic_Statue_(New_Leaf).png]] || If her hat is spherical, it is fake. If her hat is cylindrical, it is genuine.
 
|-
 
| [[Robust Statue]] || [[File:Discus_statue.jpg]] || || If it's holding a UFO, it is fake. If he is holding a smooth disc, it is genuine.
 
|-
 
| [[Valiant Statue]] || [[File:Valiant_Statue_(New_Leaf).jpg]] || [[File:Fakevaliantstatue.jpg]] || If it has bat wings, it is fake. If it has feathery angel wings, it is genuine.
 
|}
 
  
 
==References==
 
==References==
 
<references>
 
<references>
<ref name="PG-Liquefy-ItemList">{{cite web
 
|author=Liquefy
 
|published=Jul. 11, 2007
 
|url=https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/gamecube/516502-animal-crossing/faqs/48381
 
|title=A Specialized FAQ for Doubutsu no Mori + or Animal Forest + Item List (Ver. C)
 
|site=GameFAQs}}</ref>
 
 
<ref name="WW-LethalLink99">{{cite web
 
<ref name="WW-LethalLink99">{{cite web
 
|author=LethalLink99
 
|author=LethalLink99
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|url=https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/ds/920786-animal-crossing-wild-world/faqs/44897
 
|url=https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/ds/920786-animal-crossing-wild-world/faqs/44897
 
|title=A FAQ/Walkthrough for Animal Crossing: Wild World For the Nintendo DS (Ver. 4.10)
 
|title=A FAQ/Walkthrough for Animal Crossing: Wild World For the Nintendo DS (Ver. 4.10)
|site=GameFAQs}}</ref>
 
<ref name="WW-Liquefy">{{cite web
 
|author=Liquefy
 
|published=Jul. 11, 2009
 
|url=https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/ds/920786-animal-crossing-wild-world/faqs/40130
 
|title=A FAQ for Oide yo Doubutsu no Mori or All Come to Animal Forest (Ver. DD)
 
 
|site=GameFAQs}}</ref>
 
|site=GameFAQs}}</ref>
 
<ref name="CF-Liquefy">{{cite web
 
<ref name="CF-Liquefy">{{cite web
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|site=GameFAQs}}</ref>
 
|site=GameFAQs}}</ref>
 
<ref name="NL-two-reals?">{{cite web
 
<ref name="NL-two-reals?">{{cite web
|quote=Crazy Redd is offering both the Flowery Painting (which is always authentic) and the Wistful Painting (which has a blue hat, hence it is authentic).
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|title=Crazy Redd is offering both the Flowery Painting (which is always authentic) and the Wistful Painting (which has a blue hat, hence it is authentic).
 
|author=Sillysnakesstudios - SSS
 
|author=Sillysnakesstudios - SSS
 
|published=Oct. 1, 2013
 
|published=Oct. 1, 2013
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|site=YouTube}}</ref>
 
|site=YouTube}}</ref>
 
<ref name="NL-no-reals?">{{cite web
 
<ref name="NL-no-reals?">{{cite web
|quote=I've had Redd come in and all his paintings/statues were fake before so it can't be impossible. It's only ever happened once though. I looked over all the real/fake pictures online dozens of times to make sure that I wasn't just missing something. But I wasn't. Every single piece of art he had that day was fake.  
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|title=I've had Redd come in and all his paintings/statues were fake before so it can't be impossible. It's only ever happened once though. I looked over all the real/fake pictures online dozens of times to make sure that I wasn't just missing something. But I wasn't. Every single piece of art he had that day was fake.  
 
|author=Officer Berri
 
|author=Officer Berri
 
|published=Oct. 30, 2013
 
|published=Oct. 30, 2013
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|site=The Bell Tree Forums}}</ref>
 
|site=The Bell Tree Forums}}</ref>
 
</references>
 
</references>
 
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==Trivia==
{{Painting}}
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[[File:DuplicatePainting.png|thumb|right|300px|Blathers in ''City Folk'' reacting to a duplicate painting, wondering if one of them is forged.]]
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*While paintings bought from Tom Nook's store will always be genuine, they may be duplicates of paintings already donated to the Museum. Attempting to donate one will trigger dialogue from Blathers in which he is surprised that there are 2 identical paintings, and he will speculate if one of them is a forgery.
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Blathers commenting on the forgery in New Leaf

A forgery is a piece of art that is fake, that may be obtained from Crazy Redd's or, starting in New Leaf, from a villager. Compared to authentic pieces of art, forgeries are close to worthless: they may not be donated to Blathers at the museum and are worth zero Happy Room Academy (Happy Home Academy in New Leaf) points. Forgeries first appeared in Animal Crossing: Wild World and appear in all subsequent games. Prior to New Leaf, there is no way to determine whether a piece of art is fake or not prior to purchasing it.

Appearances

In Wild World

Blathers commenting that the painting given is fake in Wild World.

Tom Nook still sells paintings, although they are spotlight items and only the Famous Painting and Fine Painting are available for purchase. Outside the catalog, the primary method of acquiring new paintings is from Crazy Redd's, for double the regular price. Contrary to popular belief, there is no way to determine whether a painting is authentic or not prior to purchasing it, and Redd does not give any hints either.[1]

The painting may be identified as fake by donating it to Blathers or selling it to either Tom Nook or Timmy and Tommy, where they will comment on it. Upon doing so, the item's name changes to "forged painting". The item's name also changes after one day from purchase, even if it was not inspected. Forgeries may be sold to Tom Nook for 10 Bells.

If damage insurance is bought from Lyle, and a forged painting is given to him, the player will be mailed 100 Bells.[1]

In City Folk

Blathers commenting on the forgery in City Folk

Out of all paintings, only the Basic Painting and the Common Painting are spotlight items, leaving the rest of the paintings obtainable only from Crazy Redd's. In addition, artwork can no longer be purchased from the catalog, which means paintings that were obtained before can only be bought again from Redd.[2]

Similar to Wild World, it is not possible to determine whether a painting is authentic or not prior to purchasing from Redd; however, Feng shui plays a role in increasing the probability of a painting bought being authentic.[3]

Similar to Wild World, forgeries may be sold to Tom Nook or Timmy and Tommy for 10 Bells.[2]

In New Leaf

See also: Forgery/New Leaf
Inside Crazy Redd's in New Leaf. Notice the forged Wistful Painting (left) and Famous Painting (right)

Paintings and statues are no longer sold at Timmy and Tommy's store, leaving the player with Crazy Redd's as the primary means of acquiring art. Compared to older versions, however, Redd offers four articles of art every time he sets up his tent, and determining an artwork's authenticity just by looking at it (that is, before purchasing) is now possible. In addition, some paintings, such as the Calm Painting, are guaranteed to be authentic.

It is possible that Redd offers two authentic pieces of art[4] (although only one may be purchased). It is also possible that he will offer none.[5] Feng shui appears to affect the probability of more (or less) genuine pieces of art appearing.[6]

Villagers may also offer the player to buy paintings (but not sculptures) from them. They will offer a slightly lower price, although they do not know whether their painting is authentic or not, thus making the purchase a gamble. Feng shui also appears to affect the probability of paintings sold by villagers being genuine.[6] Obviously, some paintings sold by villagers are guaranteed to be authentic (such as the aforementioned Calm Painting).

Blathers, Timmy and Tommy, and Reese will identify that an artwork is fake—the former will refuse to accept the forgery, whereas the latter two will charge the player a disposal fee of 100 Bells.

In New Horizons

See also: Forgery/New Horizons
Blathers detecting a forgery in Animal Crossing: New Horizons.

Paintings and sculptures are sold at Jolly Redd's Treasure Trawler following the 1.2.0 update. Like in Animal Crossing: New Leaf, forgeries have visible differences once again. However, the differences are not the same as in Animal Crossing: New Leaf. Like before, Redd may have more than one genuine artwork in stock (although the player can only buy one), or he may have none at all. When buying an artwork, the player will have the option of looking closely at it.

Blathers or Timmy and Tommy will identify if an artwork is a forgery; should that be the case, Blathers will refuse to donate it to the museum and Timmy or Tommy will refuse to buy the artwork. The only way to dispose the fake artwork is to use a waste bin furniture item.

References

Trivia

Blathers in City Folk reacting to a duplicate painting, wondering if one of them is forged.
  • While paintings bought from Tom Nook's store will always be genuine, they may be duplicates of paintings already donated to the Museum. Attempting to donate one will trigger dialogue from Blathers in which he is surprised that there are 2 identical paintings, and he will speculate if one of them is a forgery.
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