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Post new topics below! [[User:Drago|<span style="font-family:Coustard;color:green">Drago</span>]] [[User talk:Drago|<span style="font-family:Coustard;color:purple">(talk)</span>]]    [[File:Drago PC Villager Icon.png|20px]] 11:03, January 1, 2019 (EST)
 
Post new topics below! [[User:Drago|<span style="font-family:Coustard;color:green">Drago</span>]] [[User talk:Drago|<span style="font-family:Coustard;color:purple">(talk)</span>]]    [[File:Drago PC Villager Icon.png|20px]] 11:03, January 1, 2019 (EST)
  
== Proposal to remove the Guide namespace ==
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== Non-English names as redirects/disambiguation pages ==
{{Archive top|result=Successful proposal. The planned changes will be implemented shortly, and there will be discussions with the staff about whether the namespace can be removed completely. [[User:Drago|<span style="font-family:Coustard;color:green">Drago</span>]] [[User talk:Drago|<span style="font-family:Coustard;color:purple">(talk)</span>]]    [[File:Drago PC Villager Icon.png|20px]] 12:45, April 5, 2021 (EDT)}}
 
This proposal is going to be controversial, but I feel that the removal of the Guide namespace may be in the best interests of the wiki. Guides are our weakest area, there doesn't seem to be much desire to improve them, and most of their content can be moved to mainspace pretty easily. Let's remember that Nookipedia is first and foremost an encyclopedia, not a strategy guide, with sites such as IGN, GameFAQs, Polygon and many others offering much better guide content than us.
 
  
If this proposal passes, this is what I plan to do with our existing guides:
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So I have been thinking of an idea that could potentially benefit any of our non-English native readers (who may be more familiar with the non-English names of certain villagers/characters), and my idea is to take all of the villager/character names that were never used in English localizations and turn them into redirects. For example, the name "Xavier" is exclusive to the French version of ''Animal Crossing'', being the name used for Pigleg, so if a French reader wants to look for "Xavier" on this Wiki, a redirect might help.
*[[Guide:Animal Crossing]], [[Guide:Animal Crossing: Wild World]] and [[Guide:Animal Crossing: City Folk]] don't have anything not already covered elsewhere, and so can be deleted, with the exception of Animal Crossing's controls, which could be moved to [[Animal Crossing|the main article]].
 
*[[Guide:Bug Catching]] isn't great, despite my improvements, and can probably be deleted.
 
*[[Guide:Campsite Minigames]] could be a subpage of [[Campsite (facility)]].
 
*[[Guide:Coffee Preferences]] could be a subpage of [[The Roost Café]].
 
*Some of [[Guide:Easter Eggs, Glitches, and Secrets]] could be transferred to [[Glitch]], although there's some duplication.
 
*The [[Guide:Face Styles|face style guides]] aren't very long, so could be transferred to [[Player]].
 
*[[Guide:Golden Axe trading event]]'s content could be transferred to [[Axe]].
 
*There isn't much useful content on [[Guide:Perfect Town Rating]], but anything that is useful could be transferred to [[Environment rating]].
 
*[[Guide:Saving]] can be deleted in my opinion.
 
*I'm unsure about [[Guide:Unlocks/Upgrades]], but I believe that all its content will be covered elsewhere, so maybe deletion?
 
*[[Guide:Villager Information]] could be a subpage of [[April Fools' Day]], or simply a standalone article.
 
  
Please let me know what you think. Thanks! [[User:Drago|<span style="font-family:Coustard;color:green">Drago</span>]] [[User talk:Drago|<span style="font-family:Coustard;color:purple">(talk)</span>]]    [[File:Drago PC Villager Icon.png|20px]] 14:27, January 25, 2021 (EST)
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For the names that have been used by multiple characters, those should be disambiguation pages. For instance, the name "Pablo" was used for three different villagers, all in different languages: Chico in German, Claude in Spanish, and Otis in Italian. It should look something like this:
:{{Support}} per the above. I've actually been thinking about this for a while too, so I'm glad you brought it up. Like you pointed out above, a lot of content in the Guide namespace would work just fine in the mainspace and the more guide-like content that wouldn't work in the mainspace isn't that great to begin with. Plus, we have [[strategywiki:|StrategyWiki]] for game guides. '''~'''&nbsp;[[User:AlexBot2004|<span style="font-family:Coustard;color:#1C662A">'''AlexBot2004'''</span>]]&nbsp;([[User talk:AlexBot2004|<span style="font-family:Coustard;color:black">Talk</span>]]) 15:11, January 25, 2021 (EST)
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:''Pablo may refer to three villagers in the '{{SER}}:
:{{Support}} it seems like it's mostly a legacy namespace from before the merge. These pages don't get much love, and don't really fit into the focus of the wiki these days. I think even if we don't vote to remove the pages, they would be better served as subpages rather than having their own teeny, tiny namespace. Given that we seem to have some sort of affiliation with StrategyWiki (I assume?), perhaps some of this content could be ported over there? --[[File:Shark HHD Icon.png|20px]] [[User:Dorsal Axe|<span style="color:#0B3E57; font-family: Coustard">Dorsal Axe</span>]] <span style="font-family: Coustard"><small>([[User talk:Dorsal Axe|talk]])</small></span> 10:56, January 26, 2021 (EST)
 
::StrategyWiki's guides already look pretty well-established, other than for New Horizons, which is incomplete. But we have very little New Horizons guide content here either, so porting looks off the table. [[User:Drago|<span style="font-family:Coustard;color:green">Drago</span>]] [[User talk:Drago|<span style="font-family:Coustard;color:purple">(talk)</span>]]    [[File:Drago PC Villager Icon.png|20px]] 11:53, January 29, 2021 (EST)
 
:{{Neutral}} - I keep going back and forth on this. I agree that given the lack of enthusiasm for the namespace in addition to its sparse content, it doesn't make sense to have a dedicated namespace for guides. That said, prior to NH's release the [[Guide:Face Styles|face style guides]] were one of the top 10 most visited pages on the wiki. I think that this is just an example of the AC lifecycle over the long term: as the current game continues to age, people start to replay the older titles, and so they look for things like the face guides when creating their new towns. Whatever the decision, I think we should still keep redirect pages for searches like "Face guide" or similar so that the content can be found at its new location. [[File:Sunmarshsignature.png|link=User:Sunmarsh]] '''<small><span style="font-variant:small-caps">([[User_talk:Sunmarsh|<span style="color:#7B7B7B">talk</span>]])</span></small>''' 13:55, January 30, 2021 (EST)
 
:{{Support}} per above. [[User:vmario97|<span style="color:green">v</span><span style="color:red">mario</span><span style="color:purple">97</span>]] <span style="color:blue">[[User talk:Vmario97|(talk)]]</span> 13:09, March 23, 2021 (EDT)
 
:{{Support}} While I'm not inherently opposed to the namespace, I support removing it given its sporadic coverage of topics and lack of maintenance. Any and all useful content should be merged into the mainspace (and/or StrategyWiki when relevant), and then redirected to the most relevant mainspace article. It will be a bit of a hit to remove one of our most popular pages pre-NH, but as long as the content is merged and redirects made, I think it will be fine. <b>~<i>[[User:SuperHamster|<span style="color:#07517C;">Super</span>]]</i>[[User:SuperHamster|<span style="color:#6FA23B;">Hamster</span>]]</b> <small>[[User talk:SuperHamster|Talk]]</small> 11:31, April 5, 2021 (EDT)
 
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== Pocket Camp event pages ==
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:''*The German name of [[Chico]], a [[mouse]] villager.
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:''*The Spanish name of [[Claude]], a [[rabbit]] villager.
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:''*The Italian name of [[Otis]], a [[bird]] villager
  
As I'm working on developing pages for Pocket Camp items, I'm thinking about our coverage of Pocket Camp events, of which there are over 250. My current plan is to make a new article (with a new PC Event infobox) for each event. Each event page would document the items that can be obtained during the event (and when applicable, the critters or fish that can be caught). Just wanted to note this here in case anyone has any thoughts. <b>~<i>[[User:SuperHamster|<span style="color:#07517C;">Super</span>]]</i>[[User:SuperHamster|<span style="color:#6FA23B;">Hamster</span>]]</b> <small>[[User talk:SuperHamster|Talk]]</small> 22:35, February 13, 2021 (EST)
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The only concern I have is if the German-exclusive names should be turned into redirect/disamb pages since we already have an [https://animalcrossingwiki.de/start affiliated German Wiki] that mainly covers the German localization stuff, but other than that, I don't see any problem with this.
:Sounds good to me! It also seems like a page header (to navigate the events sequentially) and navbox (to see a list of all events in one place) might be helpful for those pages to help people find the event(s) they are looking for. [[File:Sunmarshsignature.png|link=User:Sunmarsh]] '''<small><span style="font-variant:small-caps">([[User_talk:Sunmarsh|<span style="color:#7B7B7B">talk</span>]])</span></small>''' 13:20, February 14, 2021 (EST)
 
  
== Suggesting to go gender-neutral on Gracie, Blanca, and Saharah ==
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Any objections to this idea? [[File:Snapping Turtle NH Icon.png|25px]]'''The [[User:The Jacketed Terrapin|<span style="color: blue;">Jacketed</span>]] [[User talk:The Jacketed Terrapin|<span style="color: green;">Terrapin</span>]]'''[[File:Soft-Shelled Turtle NH Icon.png|25px]] 05:40, August 2, 2022 (EDT)
{{Archive top|result=Unsuccessful proposal. [[User:Drago|<span style="font-family:Coustard;color:green">Drago</span>]] [[User talk:Drago|<span style="font-family:Coustard;color:purple">(talk)</span>]]   [[File:Drago PC Villager Icon.png|20px]] 13:20, March 23, 2021 (EDT)}}
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:{{Support}} This sounds like a nice idea. Also although the German wiki exists, German visitors may still visit Nookipedia and search for a villager via the search bar out of curiosity, so it would still be good to have German redirect/disambiguation pages. [[User:HylianAngel|HylianAngel]] ([[User talk:HylianAngel|talk]]) 20:47, August 2, 2022 (EDT)
It is often said that the Western world loves to change whatever the foreign world does for them. In this case, [[Gracie]], [[Blanca]], and [[Saharah]] all had their gender changed from male to female. While I do believe we should adhere to Western names and terminologies for characters, I don't think we should be calling them "she/her", nor would "he/his" would be applicable.
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:{{Support}} per the above. '''~'''&nbsp;[[User:AlexBot2004|<span style="font-family:Coustard;color:#1C662A">'''AlexBot2004'''</span>]]&nbsp;([[User talk:AlexBot2004|<span style="font-family:Coustard;color:black">Talk</span>]]) 20:33, November 18, 2022 (EST)
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:{{Support}} per discussion. -- [[User:PanchamBro|PanchamBro]] ([[User talk:PanchamBro|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/PanchamBro|contributions]]) 18:25, December 24, 2022 (EST)
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:{{Support}} per everyone. [[User:Toadalind|💜Toadalind💜]] ([[User talk:Toadalind|talk]]) 16:09, April 12, 2023 (EDT)
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:{{Support}} Good idea!'''''[[User:Briky|Briky]]'''''[[File:Emotion Greetings NH Icon.png|30px]] 16:42, January 6, 2024 (EST)
  
I'm aware this doesn't relate to the West as much as it does in Japan/Korea, but I think we should change the pronouns for Gracie, Blanca, and Saharah to "they/them". It wouldn't change much in what they're meant to do or their dialogue, but it would balance out their gender differences, considering how they're handled here in the {{SER|nolink}}. Plus, [[Player]] is already using "they/them", tho a counterpoint can be said for being playable, whereas Gracie, Blanca, and Saharah aren't.
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== Hong Kong or Taiwan ==
  
For instance, take this description from [[Saharah]] about their gender differences:
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Generally speaking, when considering our usage of Chinese character, we usually denote it with the flag of the {{wp|China|People's Republic of China}} for Simplified Chinese, and the flag of {{wp|Hong Kong}} for Traditional Chinese. I'd like to know though, why are we specifying Hong Kong as the representative for Traditional Chinese? Why not the flag of {{wp|Taiwan}}, a country that has more population than Hong Kong and therefore has more users of Traditional Chinese? -- [[User:PanchamBro|PanchamBro]] ([[User talk:PanchamBro|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/PanchamBro|contributions]]) 02:20, November 25, 2022 (EST)
:"''In Japanese and Korean entries in the Animal Crossing series, Saharah is male, while in all other versions, she is female. However, her appearance, including her voice, is identical in all versions.''"
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:I asked my Chinese friend if it made sense to change the Traditional Chinese flag from the Hong Kong flag to the Taiwanese flag based on population. To rephrase what she stated more gently, she basically said it is very nonsensical to base it on population, and it would be as similarly nonsensical, as say, using California as a basis for the entirety of the United States simply because California has the largest population. She says the flag would also have an impact on the romanization of the Traditional Chinese names, as the dialect in Hong Kong is primarily Cantonese, unlike Taiwan. (More to say on this subject in [[Nookipedia talk:The Roost#New Project: Project Languages]].) [[User:HylianAngel|HylianAngel]] ([[User talk:HylianAngel|talk]]) 16:13, February 17, 2023 (EST)
  
If we change their pronouns to become more neutral, the changes are shown here:
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== Notice regarding the capitalization proposal ==
:"''In Japanese and Korean entries in the Animal Crossing series, Saharah is male, while in all other versions, they are female. However, their appearance, including their voice, is identical in all versions.''"
 
  
What do you think? Should we use "they/them" for these special NPCs? -- [[User:PanchamBro|PanchamBro]] ([[User talk:PanchamBro|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/PanchamBro|contributions]]) 22:12, March 5, 2021 (EST)
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With five votes in support of the changes in our capitalization policy in [[Nookipedia:Proposals]], the majority of users here support using the in-game names of items throughout the {{SER}}. As we're nearing close to the end of the capitalization policy change proposal though, I'd like each and every one of you to refrain from moving or changing the names of each item except only outside of the Item namespace. (e.g. fixing the item names found in the {{t|I}} template)
:Slight {{Oppose}}, as using "they/them" in that particular section might force that section to disagree with "she/her" throughout the article. Keeping the text as-is is good enough. [[File:Lucky Clover NL Icon.png|x24px|link=User:Decomposer]][[User talk:Decomposer|{{colorshow|006600|Decomposer}}]] 09:33, March 8, 2021 (EST)
 
:{{Comment}} @Decomposer, this is not on that specific section, but on changing every "she/her" in those articles (plus where these characters are within other articles) with "they/them". -- [[User:PanchamBro|PanchamBro]] ([[User talk:PanchamBro|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/PanchamBro|contributions]]) 09:38, March 8, 2021 (EST)
 
:I {{Oppose}} because we should go by what the Western localizations do, and if they say Blanca/Gracie/Saharah are female, then we should use "she/her", regardless of their genders in other regions. As for the players, they have no set gender since it is chosen by the player, so that's why we use "they/them" for them. '''~'''&nbsp;[[User:AlexBot2004|<span style="font-family:Coustard;color:#1C662A">'''AlexBot2004'''</span>]]&nbsp;([[User talk:AlexBot2004|<span style="font-family:Coustard;color:black">Talk</span>]]) 10:43, March 8, 2021 (EST)
 
:{{Oppose}} actually per comments. [[User:vmario97|<span style="color:green">v</span><span style="color:red">mario</span><span style="color:purple">97</span>]] <span style="color:blue">[[User talk:Vmario97|(talk)]]</span> 13:09, March 23, 2021 (EDT)
 
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== Proposed deletion policy ==
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I plan to automatically move the item pages and rename the items once the policy changes are set in place, and I don't need problems down the road. So far though, I need to troubleshoot some issues with my pywikibot installation before running the process, as I do not want the process to be disrupted by CSRF token issues. I hope everyone can understand. -- [[User:PanchamBro|PanchamBro]] ([[User talk:PanchamBro|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/PanchamBro|contributions]]) 22:32, November 25, 2022 (EST)
  
Finally proposing the drafted deletion policy at [[Nookipedia:Deletion policy]] - please give it a review, and leave any comments on [[Nookipedia talk:Deletion policy|the talk page]]. Thanks! <b>~<i>[[User:SuperHamster|<span style="color:#07517C;">Super</span>]]</i>[[User:SuperHamster|<span style="color:#6FA23B;">Hamster</span>]]</b> <small>[[User talk:SuperHamster|Talk]]</small> 03:18, March 6, 2021 (EST)
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== HHP Archipelago Name change ==
  
== Movement of unofficial subjects to the Community namespace ==
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I feel like the Archipelago is not the best of names, as I was confused when I saw the name. The name should be changed to something like: Paradise Planning Archipelago.
{{Archive top|result=Per consensus, most of the pages are moved to Community namespace, however I left hacking pages in main namespace. If anyone can move them anyway, feel free, but I guess the pages for [[cheating device]] and [[Seeds (hacking)]] should be left in main namespace. [[User:vmario97|<span style="color:green">v</span><span style="color:red">mario</span><span style="color:purple">97</span>]] <span style="color:blue">[[User talk:Vmario97|(talk)]]</span> 11:44, April 5, 2021 (EDT)}}
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[[User:Sylveon|<span style="font-family:Coustard;color:purple">Sylveon</span>]] <span style="font-family:Coustard;color:turquoise">from</span> [[User talk:Sylveon|<span style="font-family:Coustard;color:magenta">Pokemon</span>]] 03:51, December 23, 2022 (EST)
While we don't have a defined coverage policy, I believe the mainspace should solely be for covering official subjects. Thus, I am proposing that coverage of unofficial subjects (e.g. fansites) be moved to the Community namespace. From my understanding, the idea behind the Community namespace is to document things like this; plus, this is content from the ''community''. Note that the content of the pages affected would not change; they would still be encyclopedic articles. I feel that having the content in a namespace dedicated to content like this will also allow us to expand our coverage of it further, adding more fansites and other community subjects, such as speedrunning, fan-made software, mods, and more in the future without affecting the main article namespace.
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:Generally speaking, we follow the in-game names for our articles and such, only marking some as conjectural if no official name is found, or marking which names are translations from Japanese. In the case of archipelago, there are no instances that it is named "Paradise Planning Archipelago", nor should it be named in such a way to distinguish as there are no other archipelagos in the {{SER}}. It's a confusing name, yes, but it's more official and present in-game. -- [[User:PanchamBro|PanchamBro]] ([[User talk:PanchamBro|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/PanchamBro|contributions]]) 11:53, December 23, 2022 (EST)
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::What about Harv's Island? He himself says "but isnt it an achipelago? a harvipelago?" Thanks, --[[User:SunsetBay|<span style="font-family:Inconsolata;color:#CB6AE7">SunsetBay</span>]] ([[User talk:SunsetBay|<span style="font-family:Inconsolata;color:#E283ED">Talk</span>]]) [[File:Margie NL Villager Icon.png|25px]] 07:25, October 1, 2023 (EDT)
  
The following articles would be affected by this change:
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== Add internal name and ID regarding item ==
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{{Archive top|result=There's support to add the internal name/ID of items to the item pages. -- [[User:PanchamBro|PanchamBro]] ([[User talk:PanchamBro|talk]] [[Special:Contributions/PanchamBro|contributions]]) 10:44, February 29, 2024 (EST)}}
*[[Animal Crossing Ahead]]
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Something that has been on my mind lately was adding internal name and ID regarding a particular item. For instance, the {{I|tulip table|PG}} in {{PG}} has the filename <code>sum_poptable01</code> and the internal ID <code>126C</code>. I believe having information on the item pages would be useful for dataminers, modders, and such if they wanted to inspect information regarding a particular item instead of having to waddle through loads of spreadsheet information. -- [[User:PanchamBro|PanchamBro]] ([[User talk:PanchamBro|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/PanchamBro|contributions]]) 09:26, January 29, 2023 (EST)
*[[Animal Crossing Community]]
 
*[[Animal Crossing: Let's Go To The Wiki]]
 
*[[Animal Crossing New Leaf Wiki]]
 
*[[Animal Crossing Wiki]]
 
*[[Cheating device]]
 
*[[Hacked villager]]
 
*[[Hacking]]
 
*[[Nintendo Independent Wiki Alliance]]
 
*[[Nookazon]]
 
*[[Nookipedia]]
 
*[[Seeds (hacking)]]
 
*[[The Bell Tree]]
 
*[[Villager modifier]]
 
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:{{Support}} Especially for the websites considering they're community-run by fans. -- [[User:PanchamBro|PanchamBro]] ([[User talk:PanchamBro|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/PanchamBro|contributions]]) 09:46, March 17, 2021 (EDT)
 
  
:{{Support}} I see no real reason to oppose this. It definitely makes the distinction between fan works and official works more noticeable as well as allows us to expand on it further. In particular perhaps we should look into popular foreign websites. That’s a discussion for another time though. [[User:Senor Mexicano|Senor Mexicano]] ([[User talk:Senor Mexicano|talk]]) 03:07, March 18, 2021 (EDT)
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: {{Support}} for the reasons you've given. --[[User:BladeofEvilsBane|BladeofEvilsBane]] ([[User talk:BladeofEvilsBane|talk]]) 10:36, January 29, 2023 (EST)
 
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:{{Support}} '''~'''&nbsp;[[User:AlexBot2004|<span style="font-family:Coustard;color:#1C662A">'''AlexBot2004'''</span>]]&nbsp;([[User talk:AlexBot2004|<span style="font-family:Coustard;color:black">Talk</span>]]) 14:58, January 29, 2023 (EST)
:{{Support}} moving website articles. While we could come up with some sort of notability policy to host them in mainspace, I agree that it's not really our scope, and I'd rather just cover these things in a separate namespace and open that namespace up for more comprehensive coverage of community sites, tools, speedrunning, etc.
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:{{Support}} '''''[[User:Briky|Briky]]'''''[[File:Emotion Greetings NH Icon.png|30px]] 15:34, January 6, 2024 (EST)
:However, I am leaning {{oppose}} for [[cheating device]] and [[Seeds (hacking)]]. These articles give a broad, encyclopedic history, one of a popular piece of merchandise that isn't really community-y, and the other of an in-game item that was abused. I'd be fine with moving the other hack-related articles ([[Hacking]], [[Hacked villager]], and [[Villager modifier]]). <b>~<i>[[User:SuperHamster|<span style="color:#07517C;">Super</span>]]</i>[[User:SuperHamster|<span style="color:#6FA23B;">Hamster</span>]]</b> <small>[[User talk:SuperHamster|Talk]]</small> 04:13, March 20, 2021 (EDT)
 
::Agreed on the point about cheating device and seeds. [[User:Senor Mexicano|Senor Mexicano]] ([[User talk:Senor Mexicano|talk]]) 04:53, March 21, 2021 (EDT)
 
:I'm leaning towards {{Oppose}}. I think they should remain in the article main space as they are, well, articles. We're not an ''official'' site, so I don't believe our scope should be restricted to only 100% Nintendo official approved content, and I don't like the precedent that would set. Our coverage should always be based on relevance to the series and notability. If the pages in question weren't encyclopedic in nature, then I'd say it's fair game. --[[File:Shark HHD Icon.png|20px]] [[User:Dorsal Axe|<span style="color:#0B3E57; font-family: Coustard">Dorsal Axe</span>]] <span style="font-family: Coustard"><small>([[User talk:Dorsal Axe|talk]])</small></span> 11:58, March 20, 2021 (EDT)
 
::Well it's not as if moving them to the community namespace would strip these articles of their encyclopedic value nor lessen their status as official articles. Namespaces serve to help categorize different types of articles. A good example of a wiki using multiple namespaces is SmashWiki, which has separate namespaces exclusively for tournaments, players, organizations. I don't think there's much harm to using the community namespace exclusively for community-made websites, projects, or tools. [[User:Senor Mexicano|Senor Mexicano]] ([[User talk:Senor Mexicano|talk]]) 04:53, March 21, 2021 (EDT)
 
:::Actually it would lessen them. They would not be counted as articles in statistics, and also not be surfaced with the random page function. If there is some way around this, then I guess I have no objection. Personally I can't think of a way that wouldn't involve ''every'' page in that namespace being counted, which is not desirable as there are non-article pages in that namespace. We would basically be mixing articles and non-articles together, which feels quite iffy to me. --[[File:Shark HHD Icon.png|20px]] [[User:Dorsal Axe|<span style="color:#0B3E57; font-family: Coustard">Dorsal Axe</span>]] <span style="font-family: Coustard"><small>([[User talk:Dorsal Axe|talk]])</small></span> 12:33, March 26, 2021 (EDT)
 
:{{Support}} per above, but I agree with {{Oppose}} by SuperHamster. [[User:vmario97|<span style="color:green">v</span><span style="color:red">mario</span><span style="color:purple">97</span>]] <span style="color:blue">[[User talk:Vmario97|(talk)]]</span> 13:09, March 23, 2021 (EDT)
 
:{{Support}}. After a long think, I've decided that I don't consider any of these to be official subjects. [[User:Drago|<span style="font-family:Coustard;color:green">Drago</span>]] [[User talk:Drago|<span style="font-family:Coustard;color:purple">(talk)</span>]]    [[File:Drago PC Villager Icon.png|20px]] 12:37, March 26, 2021 (EDT)
 
:{{Support}} most of these, and agree with SuperHamster's distinction here but I would go further to exclude villager modifier from the move as well. It's my understanding that the Community namespace is for topics which are developed and supported by the AC-community. So anything that is built-in or inherent to the game (like the villager modifier), while it may be used by the hacking community for their own purposes, is just another aspect of the game's internal logic or coding (unless I'm misunderstanding what is meant by 'villager modifier'). [[File:Sunmarshsignature.png|link=User:Sunmarsh]] '''<small><span style="font-variant:small-caps">([[User_talk:Sunmarsh|<span style="color:#7B7B7B">talk</span>]])</span></small>''' 16:14, March 31, 2021 (EDT)
 
 
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== Proposing deletion for unused/deprecated templates ==
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== The animal emoji redirects ==
{{Archive top|result=Successful proposal. This will actioned once the specific uses of certain templates (as indicated below) have been appropriately substituted. --[[File:Shark HHD Icon.png|20px]] [[User:Dorsal Axe|<span style="color:#0B3E57; font-family: Coustard">Dorsal Axe</span>]] <span style="font-family: Coustard"><small>([[User talk:Dorsal Axe|talk]])</small></span> 11:40, April 17, 2021 (EDT)}}
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{{Archive top|result=There doesn't seem to be a high demand to save the animals. The animal redirects shall be deleted. [[User:HylianAngel|HylianAngel]] ([[User talk:HylianAngel|talk]]) 20:43, February 16, 2023 (EST)}}
Not much of a result ever came out of this [[Nookipedia_talk:Community_Fountain/2020#Proposing_deletion.2C_redirection_or_recategorisation_for_numerous_deprecated_templates|this discussion]], but I'd like to propose that we now delete the following deprecated templates:
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Right now there are some emoji redirects involving the species pages. Currently these redirects exist: [[🐂]] [[🐊]] [[🐒]] [[🐕]] [[🐦]] [[🐵]] [[🐶]] [[🐺]] [[🐻]] [[🦍]]
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They are kind of peculiar, and I can't really gauge if these would necessarily be useful. They're so silly that I wouldn't even mind keeping them. I had to do a double-take when I checked Wikipedia, and [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Redirects_from_emoji they actually utilize emoji redirects], so it seems like they potentially serve some sort of usefulness. But either way, we should either:
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* Villager table cell formatting (all superseded by [[Template:Table cell]])
 
** [[Template:Amiibo]]
 
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*Region tooltips (all superseded by [[Template:Flag]])
 
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** [[Template:NA]]
 
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Almost all of these particular templates are unused. A few of the region tooltips are used on a couple of user pages that could be substituted to preserve them there, and the few remaining uses of [[Template:Na]] can easily (and should!) be converted to the modern template. Any thoughts? --[[File:Shark HHD Icon.png|20px]] [[User:Dorsal Axe|<span style="color:#0B3E57; font-family: Coustard">Dorsal Axe</span>]] <span style="font-family: Coustard"><small>([[User talk:Dorsal Axe|talk]])</small></span> 12:28, March 26, 2021 (EDT)
 
:{{Support}} for the reasons given. -- [[User:PanchamBro|PanchamBro]] ([[User talk:PanchamBro|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/PanchamBro|contributions]]) 13:16, March 26, 2021 (EDT)
 
:{{Support}} - Go for it! I'm always up for a good template scrubbing. :P [[File:Sunmarshsignature.png|link=User:Sunmarsh]] '''<small><span style="font-variant:small-caps">([[User_talk:Sunmarsh|<span style="color:#7B7B7B">talk</span>]])</span></small>''' 16:28, March 31, 2021 (EDT)
 
:{{Support}} per the above. '''~'''&nbsp;[[User:AlexBot2004|<span style="font-family:Coustard;color:#1C662A">'''AlexBot2004'''</span>]]&nbsp;([[User talk:AlexBot2004|<span style="font-family:Coustard;color:black">Talk</span>]]) 17:04, March 31, 2021 (EDT)
 
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a. Complete the collection and create more redirects involving the remaining missing animal emojis from the [[:Category:Species|species]] pages<br>
I can't add one so here I am I gave https://nookipedia.com/wiki/Item:Bamboo_Tree_(New_Horizons) a link from https://nookipedia.com/wiki/Bamboo Bebber71😺 {{User:Bebber71/sig}} 23:05, March 30, 2021 (EDT)
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b. Delete the existing animal emoji redirects.
  
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What do you think? [[User:HylianAngel|HylianAngel]] ([[User talk:HylianAngel|talk]]) 02:28, February 6, 2023 (EST)
  
I put the bamboo tree for ACNH page in another about bamboo. Bebber71😺 {{User:Bebber71/sig}} 08:39, March 31, 2021 (EDT)
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::Very much against the use of animal emoji redirects. I just do not think they are reasonably used or feasibly searched. [[User:Trig Jegman|Trig]] - 02:07, February 10, 2023 (EST)
:We appreciate your enthusiasm, {{u|Bebber71}}, but the Community Fountain is meant for wiki-wide discussion of large-scale changes that will affect multiple articles. If you'd like to talk more casually about your edits to the wiki, we'd prefer you use the Wiki's [https://discord.gg/5Sfg3CT Discord server]. [[File:Sunmarshsignature.png|link=User:Sunmarsh]] '''<small><span style="font-variant:small-caps">([[User_talk:Sunmarsh|<span style="color:#7B7B7B">talk</span>]])</span></small>''' 16:26, March 31, 2021 (EDT)
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== just want to talk ==
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== New Project: Project Languages ==
  
hey. i just want to talk. i have no big OH MY GOD THIS COPYRIGHT THING IS HAPPENING i just want to talk. so hi. what's up. [[User:RemiruPlushie|RemiruPlushie]] ([[User talk:RemiruPlushie|talk]]) 12:05, April 9, 2021 (EDT)
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I think we should start a project where we fill up the boxes with "unknown" in on templates.
:For general discussion, please see our [https://discord.gg/5Sfg3CT Discord server]. This talk page is solely for discussion related to the wiki. Thanks, '''~'''&nbsp;[[User:AlexBot2004|<span style="font-family:Coustard;color:#1C662A">'''AlexBot2004'''</span>]]&nbsp;([[User talk:AlexBot2004|<span style="font-family:Coustard;color:black">Talk</span>]]) 12:07, April 9, 2021 (EDT)
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--[[User:Sylveon|<span style="font-family:Coustard;color:purple">Sylveon</span>]] [[User talk:Sylveon|<span style="font-family:Coustard;color:magenta">(Autistic and proud!)</span>]]🍉🌺  08:53, February 17, 2023 (EST)
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:Currently, the major missing romanization on all articles, especially villager articles, is Traditional Chinese, as it was made a separate entry from Simplified Chinese. For Japanese, Korean, and Simplified Chinese (the mainland language of China), you can pretty much use Google Translate to obtain an acceptable romanization of the name. However, Traditional Chinese is a slightly more complicated subject to tackle.
  
== Rethink our approach for Themes in {{NH|short|nolink}} ==
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:I asked my Chinese friend if [[Marina#Names in other languages|this Traditional Chinese romanization of Marina's name was correct]], because it was so different from the Simplified Chinese romanization. Zhānglìnà vs. Jēung Laahp Nóh is crazy different, to me as an English-speaking person. But no, she mulled it for a few seconds and said, yep, the Traditional Chinese romanization in this situation is correct. Nookipedia is using the Hong Kong flag, which implies the dialect is Cantonese. I asked her to ignore the flag, and she said you can't do that, the flag matters. I told her that most other wikis, like Bulbapedia and WiKirby don't use flags, and they usually have it simply stated as "Simplified Chinese" and "Traditional Chinese" in written text without flags, and that they tend to make both of those romanizations identical. She said that's the wrong way to approach it, since you're basically erasing an entire dialect from existence by making the romanizations identical. I asked her, would it make sense to make the Traditional and Simplified Chinese romanizations the same if the flag was not there at all, and she said, yes, some dialects of Traditional Chinese would have identical romanization as Simplified Chinese, but that is why the flag is so important in this scenario because the Hong Kong flag implies the Cantonese dialect, and you shouldn't make the romanizations the same if it's the Hong Kong flag.
{{Archive top|result=Consensus has agreed that {{NH|short}}-related themes (e.g. Child's Room) are not actual Furniture Theme collections but are '''HHA theme classifications'''. However, the proposal to remove Series/Set/Themes for catalog collections was unsuccessful. Pages that involve these "{{NH|short}} themes" have been removed. -- [[User:PanchamBro|PanchamBro]] ([[User talk:PanchamBro|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/PanchamBro|contributions]]) 14:55, August 21, 2021 (EDT)}}
 
Right now, our wiki is under the assumption that [[Theme (furniture)]] corresponds to the Themes of the previous games (e.g. [[Mario Theme]]). But after glossing over each and every theme, I've come the conclusion that they are not the same idea. They are the interior theme of the previous games, and those are simply what category every furniture item is in. Therefore, I proposal to separate [[Theme (furniture)]] into what counts as a theme and what count as an interior theme (e.g. [[Child's Room Theme]]). -- [[User:PanchamBro|PanchamBro]] ([[User talk:PanchamBro|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/PanchamBro|contributions]]) 07:24, April 10, 2021 (EDT)
 
:I'm not sure I understand the distinction you're making between "Theme (furniture)" and an "interior theme". How are you determining which ones go on which page? [[File:Sunmarshsignature.png|link=User:Sunmarsh]] '''<small><span style="font-variant:small-caps">([[User_talk:Sunmarsh|<span style="color:#7B7B7B">talk</span>]])</span></small>''' 15:26, April 23, 2021 (EDT)
 
::[[Mario Theme]] is a theme that features Mario-related items. [[Child's Room Theme]] is a random assortment of items that have no correlations whatsoever besides being considered "Child's Room". The former is an actual furniture theme, the latter is an interior theme. -- [[User:PanchamBro|PanchamBro]] ([[User talk:PanchamBro|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/PanchamBro|contributions]]) 19:50, April 23, 2021 (EDT)
 
:That's a I thought I had when the game launched (I datamined these and added them to the navbox at the time), it really does seem to be a totally different concept/approach to previous games.
 
:Actually, I personally think we should actually do away with the series/set/theme designation entirely in terms of how we structure our articles. The HHA classification seems to change frequently between games. In the case of {{WA|short}} it appears that ''none'' of the newly added furniture actually has a HHA classification, despite many of the items clearly being organised into distinct sets. IMO the way it's split currently is a little confusing (e.g. [[Classroom Set]] and [[Classroom Theme]] are effectively the same thing, it's just categorised differently between games). I think it would be better to simply have articles with the name of the collection (e.g. 24 Hour Shop, Blue, Zen, etc.) and outline the HHA classification in each game within the appropriate sections in the article itself. We can tell which items are intended to be related to each other as the filenames for every item seem to have some unique indication of the collection it belongs to. This seems to be the case even when they don't have an in-game classification, such the [[Campus Series]]. --[[File:Shark HHD Icon.png|20px]] [[User:Dorsal Axe|<span style="color:#0B3E57; font-family: Coustard">Dorsal Axe</span>]] <span style="font-family: Coustard"><small>([[User talk:Dorsal Axe|talk]])</small></span> 05:47, May 1, 2021 (EDT)
 
::That doesn't seem like a bad idea imo, but 24-Hour Shop, Campus, and Fueki are not considered furniture series as datamined in the HHA classifications. If they do return as a series in {{NH}}, then perhaps they can be added, but as far as I know, these series are related to a company and may as well fit under that brand:
 
::*24-Hour Shop Series would fit under [[7-Eleven]]
 
::*Fueki Series would fit under [[Animal Crossing x Fueki]]
 
::*Campus Series would fit under [[Kokuyo Camlin]]
 
::Besides those issues, I agree with this statement and I would {{support}} reclassifying every one of our furniture series/set/themes under a specific name instead of labeling them as "<Name> <Series/Set/Theme>". -- [[User:PanchamBro|PanchamBro]] ([[User talk:PanchamBro|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/PanchamBro|contributions]]) 14:52, May 1, 2021 (EDT)
 
:::{{Support}} per above. [[User:vmario97|<span style="color:green">v</span><span style="color:red">mario</span><span style="color:purple">97</span>]] <span style="color:blue">[[User talk:Vmario97|(talk)]]</span> 15:35, May 1, 2021 (EDT)
 
:I would {{Support}} removing our NH theme pages such as [[Child's Room Theme]]. While they're called themes, they act the same as HRA genres from previous games, and thus I think they should go to Furniture/New Horizons/Theme Name (e.g. [[Furniture/New Horizons/Child's Room]]). However, I'm leaning towards {{Oppose}} on removing Series/Set/Theme from the existing collection pages. If they change between games, we can just merge them into one page and use the latest name, while noting the difference (e.g. "Prior to {{WW}}, the Classroom Set is known as the Classroom Theme and is scored accordingly by the HRA"). '''~'''&nbsp;[[User:AlexBot2004|<span style="font-family:Coustard;color:#1C662A">'''AlexBot2004'''</span>]]&nbsp;([[User talk:AlexBot2004|<span style="font-family:Coustard;color:black">Talk</span>]]) 15:52, May 1, 2021 (EDT)
 
  
:It took me a minute, but I finally understand the issue here. I {{support}} moving these NH HHA Theme pages to a subpage of Furniture/New Horizons. It seems we are moving toward subpages for furniture lists, generally speaking, so I think that we should probably have a larger discussion about the best way to organize these pages and to make the existence of the subpages more obvious to readers on the root page (in this case: Furniture). [[File:Sunmarshsignature.png|link=User:Sunmarsh]] '''<small><span style="font-variant:small-caps">([[User_talk:Sunmarsh|<span style="color:#7B7B7B">talk</span>]])</span></small>''' 23:36, August 10, 2021 (EDT)
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:She also explained that China has been attempting to erase Cantonese for some time in order to make Simplified Chinese the main language. Another unfortunate aspect is that we wouldn't even be able to obtain any Cantonese Traditional Chinese romanizations on Nookipedia without the help of a Cantonese-speaking person, because Google Translate spits out identical romanizations for Simplified and Traditional Chinese anyways. So we have a major problem where the Hong Kong flag would be misleading if we were to copy-paste the Simplified Chinese romanizations to be the same as the Traditional Chinese romanizations, but if we were to decide to stick with Hong Kong/Cantonese, we probably will never have any Traditional Chinese romanizations ever, unless a Cantonese person decides to join and contribute for every page (and my Chinese friend does not know Cantonese). [[User:HylianAngel|HylianAngel]] ([[User talk:HylianAngel|talk]]) 16:13, February 17, 2023 (EST)
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:I may not know much about Cantonese at the moment, but I've been thinking about it considering that it has several romanizations that could be used here. I'm pretty sure Bulbapedia used Yale romanization for Cantonese, but on the other hand, there's also Jyutping romanization. If we can get some pointers on which of these romanizations should be used here, it would be a good start. Not to mention, the example of Marina earlier on seems to be using Yale's. <span style="background:linear-gradient(0deg,blue,cyan); -webkit-background-clip:text !important; -webkit-text-fill-color:transparent;">'''''[[User:Starry Windy|Starry Windy]]'''''</span>[[User talk:Starry Windy|<span style="color:gold">★</span>]] 23:05, November 29, 2023 (EST)
  
The proposed [[Nookipedia:Deletion policy|deletion policy]] has been enacted. Nothing too surprising or different than what we already do. Highlights are that deletion templates must have a reason, and editors must be informed on their talk page if a page they created is put up for deletion (with exceptions, such as vandalism or retired users). <b>~<i>[[User:SuperHamster|<span style="color:#07517C;">Super</span>]]</i>[[User:SuperHamster|<span style="color:#6FA23B;">Hamster</span>]]</b> <small>[[User talk:SuperHamster|Talk]]</small> 13:56, April 20, 2021 (EDT)
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Hi! I am new to being an editor, but recently I noticed Nookipedia doesn't do individual quotes for villagers, something the Animal Crossing Wiki does do. I've been adding quotes for a few villagers, but not too many. I wanted to garner some support before I continue to do more. I know most quotes are similar within personality, but there are some, like picture quotes, that are individual to certain villagers. I think this could be really cool to do for every villager, because the rest of the villager page isn't very personalized at all. Plus, sometimes, people only need the page to look for the picture quote, and putting it at the top of the page could be useful. I think it would be fun for the editors, and readers, to mix it up a little. So, community, do you have an opinion? Should I keep going? [[User:Omigpine11|Omigpine11]] ([[User talk:Omigpine11|talk]]) 17:59, March 11, 2023 (EST)Omigpine11
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:Although photo quotes are "unique dialogue" involving the villager, I feel it is not needed to include it at the top of the page, since this info is available within the infobox ("favorite saying"), which is very close to the top of the page already. If a reader only needs the photo quote, they already have easy access. These quotes are also located on the [[Photo]] page. I personally {{Oppose}} adding photo quotes to the top of villager pages. However, I {{Support}} adding quotes on villager pages in cases where it is in-game dialogue completely exclusive to the villager. These cases are rare, but some cases do occur in New Horizons involving very specific species-personality combos (where there is only 1 villager who is that species-personality, like Wendy the peppy sheep, on Year of the Sheep). While it's not really from the game, I agree with the [[Alfonso]] quote you added from the official NH website, since it is indeed completely unique. [[User:HylianAngel|HylianAngel]] ([[User talk:HylianAngel|talk]]) 18:25, March 11, 2023 (EST)
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::Actually HylianAngel, the top quote on Alfonso's page ''is'' a quote lazy villagers say in ''New Horizons'', just that "This place" is replaced with whatever you named your island. Just a warning that the source I am about to provide does contain some very crude language, but it's the only proof I was able to find of the quote being used in-game, so please bear with me on this one (quote is on the 4th pic): https://imgflip.com/i/43nbpn
  
Does anyone know how to change your username? [[User:Alfonso The Aligator|Alfonso The Aligator]] ([[User talk:Alfonso The Aligator|talk]]) 11:23, April 30, 2021 (EDT)
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::That being said, I don't really mind it being Alfonso's top quote since the website does make that association. [[File:Snapping Turtle NH Icon.png|25px]]'''The [[User:The Jacketed Terrapin|<span style="color: blue;">Jacketed</span>]] [[User talk:The Jacketed Terrapin|<span style="color: green;">Terrapin</span>]]'''[[File:Soft-Shelled Turtle NH Icon.png|25px]] 18:31, March 11, 2023 (EST)
:Only a [[Nookipedia:Bureaucrats|Bureaucrat]] can change users' usernames. What would you like to change your name to? '''~'''&nbsp;[[User:AlexBot2004|<span style="font-family:Coustard;color:#1C662A">'''AlexBot2004'''</span>]]&nbsp;([[User talk:AlexBot2004|<span style="font-family:Coustard;color:black">Talk</span>]]) 11:25, April 30, 2021 (EDT)
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:::Thanks, I should have worded it more clearly that it's a unique association. I did remember the dialogue from playing NH, so saying "completely unique" was not entirely correct when I was trying to convey my reasoning. [[User:HylianAngel|HylianAngel]] ([[User talk:HylianAngel|talk]]) 18:34, March 11, 2023 (EST)
::Can you change it to Alfonso the Alligator? I forgot the extra l in alligator. [[User:Alfonso The Aligator|Alfonso The Aligator]] ([[User talk:Alfonso The Aligator|talk]]) 14:40, April 30, 2021 (EDT)
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:I wanted to mention that I went ahead and added the unique dialogue involving New Year's Day for unique species-personality combos to the "Trivia" sections of the involved pages, but only for bulls/cows (2021), tigers (2022), and rabbits (2023). So this would be [[Coach]], [[Norma]], [[Patty]], [[Rolf]], [[Claudia]], [[Gaston]], [[Coco]], and [[Mira]].
:::Done. [[User:vmario97|<span style="color:green">v</span><span style="color:red">mario</span><span style="color:purple">97</span>]] <span style="color:blue">[[User talk:Vmario97|(talk)]]</span> 14:47, April 30, 2021 (EDT)
 
  
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:I didn't add the dialogue for future years yet, which would be horses (2026), sheep (2027), monkeys (2028), birds (2029), dogs (2030), pigs (2031), and mice (2032). Actually, from reading the dialogue files, it's unclear if Year of the Rooster (2029) will apply to all bird-related species (birds, ducks, eagles, ostriches, penguins, and chickens), a subset of these bird species, or just chickens themselves. The dialogue specifically says "Year of the Bird," or "Year of the Rooster," depending on the personality type of the speaking villager, but mostly these dialogues state "Year of the Bird." Unless someone time travels to 2029 and checks each species, or unless a dataminer could examine the code, it probably won't be known. Anyways, I felt it would make sense to just add the dialogue for 2021-2023 and not the future years yet. However, I wouldn't be against adding the future years either. [[User:HylianAngel|HylianAngel]] ([[User talk:HylianAngel|talk]]) 07:14, March 12, 2023 (EDT)
Hello, this is koopadude99. Since I changed my email I can't login to that account. I also forgot the password. Is there a way to get the account back or transfer what was on that account to this one. Thank you.
 
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:Hello, please send us an email (support [at] nookipedia.com) with as much detail as you can remember about your account (former email address, your country/state, etc) and if everything matches up, we will be able to restore your account to your new email address. --<span class="jake-signature">[[User:Jake|<span class="jake-signature-name" style="font-family:Coustard,Verdana; color:#f73422; text-shadow: #e0e0e0 1px 1px 0;">Jake</span>]] [[User_talk:Jake|<span class="jake-signature-talk" style="font-family:Coustard,Verdana; color:#f75b22; text-shadow: #e0e0e0 1px 1px 0;">(talk)</span>]]</span> 12:34, May 2, 2021 (EDT)
 
  
== Add general information about generations, competition, as well as sales & reception on console articles. ==
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== Villager catchphrases ==
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I see the console pages on this wiki to be very small when compared to other NIWA wikis like Mario Wiki and Zelda Wiki. They lack info on which generation they belong in, the competition, as well as their sales and reception info. I've gotten my edits undone just because they don't qualify as Animal Crossing coverage. I feel that general information about a console's generation, competition, as well as their sales figures and reception should not be left out as they have just as much importance to a console's page as the Animal Crossing information does. I feel that Nintendo-related info, even if it is not related to Animal Crossing is just as important as the Animal Crossing info on the console pages. Nintendo is the parent company to which the Animal Crossing IP belongs, so the parent company should also get some coverage as well, but just on the console pages itself along with the Animal Crossing related info that is on there. We should be improving the articles, not watering them down, so the added info about generations, competition, as well as sales and reception would be considered improvements to the article even if they're not Animal Crossing related. The readers have to know more about the console other than just the basic information that's there.
 
--[[User:Dr. Peach|Dr. Peach]] ([[User talk:Dr. Peach|talk]]) 16:19, May 14, 2021 (EDT)
 
:We are an Animal Crossing wiki, so our information should lean toward the subject's relevance to Animal Crossing. We should have general information to introduce the console (e.g. what it is, when it released) and can briefly cover things like which generation it's a part of and lifetime sales, but we do not need to add information about which consoles it competed against or reasons why it succeeded or failed. People who go to Nookipedia to read about Nintendo consoles likely want to know about the console's relevance to the Animal Crossing series, so that's what we should prioritize. If a reader wants to view in-depth general information, they would visit the corresponding Wikipedia or NintendoWiki article. '''~'''&nbsp;[[User:AlexBot2004|<span style="font-family:Coustard;color:#1C662A">'''AlexBot2004'''</span>]]&nbsp;([[User talk:AlexBot2004|<span style="font-family:Coustard;color:black">Talk</span>]]) 16:56, May 14, 2021 (EDT)
 
:I agree with AlexBot2004. Realistically a user who is seeking comprehensive information about a specific Nintendo console would probably go to the Wikipedia article for that info. But if they were searching up a console on an Animal Crossing wiki, then it would be expected for the pages to have a narrower and more specialized scope where the primary focus is the Animal Crossing games, the excessive info isn't as practical. [[User:HylianAngel|HylianAngel]] ([[User talk:HylianAngel|talk]]) 17:06, May 14, 2021 (EDT)
 
:All per comments, I leave an {{Oppose}} for adding more details to the console articles. [[User:vmario97|<span style="color:green">v</span><span style="color:red">mario</span><span style="color:purple">97</span>]] <span style="color:blue">[[User talk:Vmario97|(talk)]]</span> 17:08, May 14, 2021 (EDT)
 
:I agree with AlexBot2004's statement, and I {{Oppose}} for this reason. -- [[User:PanchamBro|PanchamBro]] ([[User talk:PanchamBro|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/PanchamBro|contributions]]) 17:13, May 14, 2021 (EDT)
 
::Additionally, I would like to point out that we are not Super Mario Wiki or Zelda Wiki. They have differing guidelines on what to include for their pages, just as we have differing guidelines on what to include on our pages. NIWA doesn't mean we have to share the same rules or  information, NIWA means we have a value of community and support. -- [[User:PanchamBro|PanchamBro]] ([[User talk:PanchamBro|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/PanchamBro|contributions]]) 17:59, May 14, 2021 (EDT)
 
:{{Oppose}} per the above. That said, I understand your perspective, and it is obvious you had good intentions in proposing this. If comprehensive information about Nintendo consoles is something you are passionate about, then I would recommend contributing over at NintendoWiki. It has never really taken off the way NIWA thought it would. The few individuals active there would really appreciate any contributions you make. [[User:BladeofEvilsBane|BladeofEvilsBane]] ([[User talk:BladeofEvilsBane|talk]]) 00:21, May 15, 2021 (EDT)
 
:{{Neutral}}. I don't think there's anything ''wrong'' with adding this extra information, but as Alex and others have said, Wikipedia already covers it better. This sort of thing is at the bottom of our priority list, and it makes more sense to use editing time to improve Animal Crossing related content. I would be opposed to the creation of articles for the SNES, Game Boy etc. (which was suggested on Discord), because they don't have any link to Animal Crossing at all. [[User:Drago|<span style="font-family:Coustard;color:green">Drago</span>]] [[User talk:Drago|<span style="font-family:Coustard;color:purple">(talk)</span>]]    [[File:Drago PC Villager Icon.png|20px]] 10:41, May 15, 2021 (EDT)
 
:{{Comment}} - I agree with most of the comments here that extensive console coverage is outside the scope of this wiki. A simple line regarding generation & competitors is all that is necessary (e.g. 'x console is part of the nth console generation, competing with...'). If you're interested in focusing on console information, the following topics would be helpful:
 
:*In relation to the console's life-cycle, when were AC games released?
 
:*How did the release of AC games affect console sales?
 
:*How did each AC game make use of the console's unique hardware capabilities (e.g. Wiimote, GBA to GCN cable etc.)?
 
:*Were there any AC-related special edition consoles or accessories?
 
:I'm sure there are more AC-related aspects to consoles that could be covered, but hopefully that gives you an idea of what kind of content we're encouraging on our console pages. [[File:Sunmarshsignature.png|link=User:Sunmarsh]] '''<small><span style="font-variant:small-caps">([[User_talk:Sunmarsh|<span style="color:#7B7B7B">talk</span>]])</span></small>''' 13:19, May 20, 2021 (EDT)
 
:{{Comment}} Yeah, I agree that we should only make a one sentense covering the generation and competition but nothing more than that so that we don't fall out of scope for this wiki. --[[User:Dr. Peach|Dr. Peach]] ([[User talk:Dr. Peach|talk]]) 10:40, May 21, 2021 (EDT)
 
{{Archive bottom}}
 
  
== Feedback ==
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I strongly believe that villager pages should have a dedicated section to their catchphrases in each language, in the same style as their given name in the "Names in other languages" section. Currently there is not a good place to describe the meaning of a villager's foreign catchphrases, so there are cases where the Japanese catchphrase holds some relevance to the character, but since there is no decent section to place it, it is instead placed at the top of the page, where it sits next to any relevant English given name and English catchphrase origin information. That location is somewhat awkward, since it's inconsistent to have the English given name, the English catchphrase, no Japanese given name (since Japanese name info is generally placed in the "Names in other languages" section), and then the Japanese catchphrase.
  
This looks pretty good but the + does not show to meaning of it so I think it should it should be changed back to topic+ because it shows the meaning. Bebber71😺 {{User:Bebber71/sig}} 17:37, June 3, 2021 (EDT)
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If there was a dedicated section for catchphrases in other languages, it would not only allow describing any Japanese catchphrase relevance, but also the relevance of catchphrases of every other language as well, and there is currently no location to place non-English or non-Japanese catchphrase relevancy information. Basic "names in other languages" and "catchphrases in other languages" data exists in the infobox, and yet only the "names in other languages" is duplicated at the bottom of the page. I believe both should be at the bottom of the page.
:I have implemented a css fix and will be asking SuperHamster or Jake to implement. -- [[User:PanchamBro|PanchamBro]] ([[User talk:PanchamBro|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/PanchamBro|contributions]]) 18:34, June 3, 2021 (EDT)
 
::Good suggestion, I've updated it (via [[MediaWiki:nookipedia-timeless-action-addsection]], not CSS). Thanks, '''~''[[User:SuperHamster|<span style="color:#07517C">Super</span>]]''[[User:SuperHamster|<span style="color:#6FA23B">Hamster</span>]]''' <small>[[User talk:SuperHamster|Talk]] [[Special:Contribs/SuperHamster|Contribs]]</small> 18:39, June 3, 2021 (EDT)
 
I can't find where to move a page, is it with Purge cache? Is it even on this layout? Bebber71😺 {{User:Bebber71/sig}} 13:16, June 4, 2021 (EDT)
 
:It's moved to the left sidebar, as part of the 'page actions' tab. [[User:Drago|<span style="font-family:Coustard;color:green">Drago</span>]] [[User talk:Drago|<span style="font-family:Coustard;color:purple">(talk)</span>]]    [[File:Drago PC Villager Icon.png|20px]] 13:24, June 4, 2021 (EDT)
 
  
== Split <nowiki>{{Availability}}</nowiki> into separate availability templates ==
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While the main article header would be "Names in other languages," there are 2 different formatting styles that could be implemented:
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*The sub-headers are the words "Given name" and "Catchphrase."
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**Optionally and additionally, in combination with this style so that the name and catchphrase are extremely explicit, a parameter for the English name can be included, like how Fire Emblem Wiki does it ([[fireemblem:Marth#Etymology and other languages|example here]]). While it might be currently redundant with the English information included in the intro prose, I think it's fine for there to be redundant information, as many villager pages already do repeat redundant information (like the infobox repeating the foreign names information), and it can serve a very useful utility purpose if intros are ever repurposed to no longer include English name/catchphrase origins. Plus, it would allow for future "favorite sayings" English explanations, which no intros do unless it's related to the character's identity/species somehow, but I feel this would be good information to include no matter what.
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*The sub-headers are the character's actual name and catchphrase, like for example [[Sherb]], the sub-headers would be "Sherb" and "bawwww."
  
I know this won't be popular considering a lot of pages use [[Template:Availability]], but at this point, I feel like there's too much to add that it's becoming a growing nightmare to deal with, especially with how limited MediaWiki can handle a template like this anymore.
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I'm also open to other suggestions for the formatting style. I'm slightly partial to the first style, just because there might be a case where "favorite sayings" are also given their own dedicated section in the future, and the full saying might be weird as a header. What formatting do you think would be best? [[User:HylianAngel|HylianAngel]] ([[User talk:HylianAngel|talk]]) 14:50, April 4, 2023 (EDT), edited again on 16:11, April 22, 2023 (EDT)
  
I think long-term goal we should split this template into multiple sections. There are two options to consider.
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== I caught the spirit!! ==
# We split the template by their category. This means that Plants go to a specific category, and NPCs go in another. The [[Fortune Cookies]] from {{PC}} therefore have their own separate template.
 
# We split the template into their own game. This is a big deal because this could mean linking specific items such as flower items by using [[Template:I]]. Long-term, when we do include items from other games like {{NL}}, {{PC}}, and {{WW}}, we don't have items that have to linked to one page in order to maintain consistency. We can have <code><nowiki>{{Availability|NH|Orange Tree}}</nowiki></code> for {{NH}} redirect to <code><nowiki>{{I|Orange Tree|New Horizons}}</nowiki></code> and in {{NL}}, <code><nowiki>{{Availability|NL|Orange Tree}}</nowiki></code> goes to <code><nowiki>{{I|Orange Tree|New Leaf}}</nowiki></code>. This can also factor in specific icons for specific games, depending on if those icons exists. Now things that are common across multiple games, such as <code><nowiki>{{Availability|Starting item}}</nowiki></code> and <code><nowiki>{{Availability|Unobtainable}}</nowiki></code>, we can opt to keep those in the main template as they are not really game-specific in that regard.
 
  
This needs to be addressed, because the more we add to this template, the harder it gets to add new availability factors and the more likely that the template will cease to operate due to how many items need to be added (e.g. Pocket Camp fortune cookies). -- [[User:PanchamBro|PanchamBro]] ([[User talk:PanchamBro|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/PanchamBro|contributions]]) 13:21, June 6, 2021 (EDT)
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I caught farley!! ~[[File:SylveonSig.png|link=User:Sylveon|120px]] 08:51, April 11, 2023 (EDT)
:I'm quite onto this, having separate templates could simplify things quite a bit, but it will probably be a long process getting everything back together since we have so many pages with the [[Template:Availability|availability template]]. ~ [[User:Vivian|<span style="font-family:Coustard;color:brown">Vivian</span>]] [[User talk:Vivian|<span style="font-family:Coustard;color:grey">(talk)</span>]]    [[File:Vivian DnMe+ Minigame.png|20px|link=Special:Contributions/Vivian]] 13:28, June 6, 2021 (EDT)
 
::I would like to point out that [https://nookipedia.com/w/index.php?title=Special:ListUsers&group=bot we have bots that we can rely on] to replace those texts. And that most templates can easily swap stuff around and add those specific names (see [[Template:CargoDisplayNHFurniture]]). -- [[User:PanchamBro|PanchamBro]] ([[User talk:PanchamBro|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/PanchamBro|contributions]]) 13:36, June 6, 2021 (EDT)
 
  
:The switch parser function [[wikipedia:Help:Switch_parser_function|help page]] over on wikipedia says that while a function can technically contain between 1k-2k branches, it "should be split to have less than 100 branches, in multiple or nested parts". If we expect that we will ever reach the upper limit/run into performance concerns, then splitting it would be easier to do sooner rather than later. Also, I didn't see this post before I made edits to the template to simplify it. Even though it's more readable/editable now, I agree that splitting it is still something we should consider. If we didn't want to adjust the template call on all of the pages in which {{t|Availability}} appears, we could create a template that determines which 'category' the call fits into (e.g. is it a plant, fortune cookie etc.). We could then use this determination to split the huge switch into several nested switches:
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==Trig Jegman's File Template==
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As I am sure you have seen, I've been working on the creation and generation of [[Module:Sandbox/Trig Jegman/File|my file module]] for Nookipedia. The time is now to suggest that it is used instead of the existing [[Template:File Info]].
  
<pre><nowiki>{{AvailabilityCategory|{{{1|}}}}}
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First, to be explicitly clear, this module would work the same as a template to the degree that I have made sure everything will retroactively work on it. '''Nothing would break by the implementation of the module.'''
{{#switch: {{#var:category}}
 
| fortune =  {{#switch: {{{1|}}}
 
| Clothing Fortune Cookie
 
| Timmy's Fortune Cookie
 
.
 
.
 
.</nowiki></pre>
 
  
:The <code><nowiki>{{AvailabilityCategory}}</nowiki></code> template would determine what category the input belongs to, and this information could be accessed by calling the variable <code><nowiki>{{#var:category}}</nowiki></code>. This would still result in the template being very long though, as all of the different options would exist in the same template, just nested in multiple switch functions to improve performance. [[File:Sunmarshsignature.png|link=User:Sunmarsh]] '''<small><span style="font-variant:small-caps">([[User_talk:Sunmarsh|<span style="color:#7B7B7B">talk</span>]])</span></small>''' 20:33, June 27, 2021 (EDT)
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Second: My module is a lot beefier than the existing template is now. Here's the main takeaways:
:Minor suggestion if this would be implemented in the future, subpages could be used to separate between games e.g., {{t|Availability/NH}} and {{t|Availability/PC}}, to prevent <code><nowiki>{{{#switch}}}</nowiki></code>ing hell. Regardless, the template definitely has to be split in the future. [[File:Lucky Clover NL Icon.png|x24px|link=User:Decomposer]][[User talk:Decomposer|{{colorshow|006600|Decomposer}}]] 10:59, August 11, 2021 (EDT)
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*Combined licensing. No more need for having 33 different licensing templates, when the module will take care of all of them collectively.
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*More maintenance parameters and a closer analysis of sourcing. There are several maintenance features included, such as files taken from FANDOM sources or YouTube.
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*Predesignated sources for when the user captures an image themself.
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*Automatic categorization. This is the big one: Through the introduction of two new parameters (game and type), files will now automatically be categorized into their appropriate categories, making widescale changes easier and formatting more consistent.
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*This is an excellent opportunity to look at all of the files on site and reduce duplicates, fix naming, improve quality, and get specific sources amongst other tasks.
  
== SVGs, indexing, and gadgets ==
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I wouldn't propose this if I didn't have great success in implementing this before. I have completely added this style of template to '''every single file''' on WiKirby, Wars Wiki, Inkipedia, MiiWiki, The Cycle: Frontier, as well as partial completion on Mystery Dungeon Francise Wiki, FamiWiki, and StrategyWiki. I've done it before and I'm more than happy to do it again to get this implemented. I really think that having this upgrade is a valuable resource and helps create consistency both on this site and in conjunction with other wikis as well. [[User_talk:Trig_Jegman/Sandbox|I have a few examples of use cases here]] to understand what it might look like. The new parameters are the following:
  
Hello editors! Thanks to the hard work of [[User:Jake|Jake]], we've recently upgraded our MediaWiki version and made some small changes and improvements.
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*Game — Allows an automatic link to a game, and can work to add automatic categories.
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*Type/Meta — These two pull from a determined list of common types (such as Artwork, Screenshots, Amiibo, or User Files) in order to automatically categorize files. The difference between type and meta is that type will categorize based off the game entry (New Leaf sprites), meta will only do off the type (Sprites).
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*User — Used for user files or when attributing the source to someone else.
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*Author — At the suggestion/request of [[User:SuperHamster|Shams]], useful for creative commons files.
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*License — All those licensing templates are here now
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*Fandom/Youtube — By setting these to yes, it places files taken from these less than desirable locations into a maintenance category for replacement.  
  
* You can now upload SVGs - huzzah!
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I'm happy to make more examples, or give breakdowns of how I would go about fixing these, or answer any questions about it. Please let me know how you feel about implementing it on Nookipedia as well! [[User:Trig Jegman|Trig]] - 13:22, June 28, 2023 (EDT)
* Userpages and all talk pages have been noindexed, meaning they will no longer appear in search results (Google, Bing, etc.). This was done to help protect user privacy, and to keep discussions, draft, and fan content out of public search results. If you'd like your userpage to appear in search results again, just add <code><nowiki>__INDEX__</nowiki></code> to the top of it.
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:{{Support}} - Everything here looks great! The combined licensing and automatic categorization are especially welcome additions; I can't think of anything at the moment that I'd add or change. '''~'''&nbsp;[[User:AlexBot2004|<span style="font-family:Coustard;color:#1C662A">'''AlexBot2004'''</span>]]&nbsp;([[User talk:AlexBot2004|<span style="font-family:Coustard;color:black">Talk</span>]]) 01:08, July 6, 2023 (EDT)
* While we've had these for a while, they've never been formally announced: if you go into your Preferences -> Gadgets, there are some nifty tools here that can enhance your browsing and editing experience, like a scroll-to-top button, talk page discussion counter, syntax highlighter, and more.
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:{{Support}} I think this could work. I do believe though that if we agree on this more, we should set up a proposal to implement. -- [[User:PanchamBro|PanchamBro]] ([[User talk:PanchamBro|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/PanchamBro|contributions]]) 16:41, September 5, 2023 (EDT)
  
Cheers, '''~''[[User:SuperHamster|<span style="color:#07517C">Super</span>]]''[[User:SuperHamster|<span style="color:#6FA23B">Hamster</span>]]''' <small>[[User talk:SuperHamster|Talk]] [[Special:Contribs/SuperHamster|Contribs]]</small> 22:24, June 15, 2021 (EDT)
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== New Horizons villager box item capitalization ==
  
The index category is a redlink, should someone create it? Petaldancer66😺 [[User:Petaldancer66|Petaldancer66]] [[User talk:Petaldancer66|talk]] 00:15, June 27, 2021 (EDT)
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{{U|PanchamBro}}'s bot fixed the capitalization of {{NH|short|nolink}} items on almost all villager pages, but since [[Jacob|Jacob/Jakey]] and [[Spork|Spork/Crackle]] have 2 different names, I think the bot skipped over those two. Making a note here that it needs to eventually be fixed, don't have time to fix it myself at the moment. [[User:HylianAngel|HylianAngel]] ([[User talk:HylianAngel|talk]]) 15:51, July 29, 2023 (EDT)
:Created. ~ [[User:Vivian|<span style="font-family:Coustard;color:#c6a469">Vivian</span>]] [[User talk:Vivian|<span style="font-family:Coustard;color:grey">(talk)</span>]]   [[File:Vivian DnMe+ Minigame.png|20px|link=Special:Contributions/Vivian]] 00:27, June 27, 2021 (EDT)
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:This should be fixed now! -- [[User:PanchamBro|PanchamBro]] ([[User talk:PanchamBro|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/PanchamBro|contributions]]) 01:05, August 2, 2023 (EDT)
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::Thank you! [[User:HylianAngel|HylianAngel]] ([[User talk:HylianAngel|talk]]) 20:51, August 4, 2023 (EDT)
  
== Question. ==
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==wanna join my club???==
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it is called bob fan club {{Unsigned|FroggyPotter}}
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:Sure. Thanks, --[[User:SunsetBay|<span style="font-family:Inconsolata;color:#CB6AE7">SunsetBay</span>]] ([[User talk:SunsetBay|<span style="font-family:Inconsolata;color:#E283ED">Talk</span>]]) [[File:Margie NL Villager Icon.png|25px]] 05:31, September 5, 2023 (EDT)
  
Bunny currently redirects to Rabbit, a Villager's name is also Bunnie. Some people might not know know Bunnie's name is spelled B-U-N-N-I-E. Should we put  a Wrong page template on Rabbit or make a redirect page? Petaldancer66😺 [[User:Petaldancer66|Petaldancer66]] [[User talk:Petaldancer66|talk]] 15:43, July 7, 2021 (EDT)
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==Help with Cargo Tables==
:I'd go with the wrongpage template. [[User:Drago|<span style="font-family:Coustard;color:green">Drago</span>]] [[User talk:Drago|<span style="font-family:Coustard;color:purple">(talk)</span>]]   [[File:Drago PC Villager Icon.png|20px]] 11:34, July 8, 2021 (EDT)
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Are there any resources to help figure out how they work? If not can some please explain them to me? [[User:TheMajesticPineapple|TheMajesticPineapple]] ([[User talk:TheMajesticPineapple|talk]]) 22:56, August 24, 2023 (EDT)
:I agree, seems like a perfect use for the wrongpage template. --<span class="jake-signature">[[User:Jake|<span class="jake-signature-name" style="font-family:Coustard,Verdana; color:#f73422; text-shadow: #e0e0e0 1px 1px 0;">Jake</span>]] [[User_talk:Jake|<span class="jake-signature-talk" style="font-family:Coustard,Verdana; color:#f75b22; text-shadow: #e0e0e0 1px 1px 0;">(talk)</span>]]</span> 13:42, July 8, 2021 (EDT)
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:Here are a couple of resources:
Okay, did that. Thanks for the feedback! Petaldancer66😺 [[User:Petaldancer66|Petaldancer66]] [[User talk:Petaldancer66|talk]] 15:03, July 8, 2021 (EDT)
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:* https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:Cargo (also check out the [https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:Cargo/Storing_data Storing data] and [https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:Cargo/Querying_data Querying data] subpages)
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:* https://help.fandom.com/wiki/Extension:Cargo
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:* https://support.wiki.gg/wiki/Cargo
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:My personal understanding of it is that the gist of it is that you'll have a template for a type of page with a bunch of input fields. In the template you say that inputs in those fields get stored in a big behind-the-scenes table. You can then create a cargo query table to list specific stuff from that big table on any page you want. For better understanding the template side of things it helps to look at templates that use cargo, and for cargo query tables it helps to look at and compare different pages that use different cargo queries. Hope this helps a bit! [[User:Bassieeee|Bassieeee]] ([[User talk:Bassieeee|talk]]) 07:19, August 25, 2023 (EDT)
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::Thank you so much, I couldn't find anything on them anywhere.
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::[[User:TheMajesticPineapple|TheMajesticPineapple]] ([[User talk:TheMajesticPineapple|talk]]) 09:30, August 25, 2023 (EDT)
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:[[Nookipedia:Project Database]] has some good  information on cargo tables, and we have a channel for discussing cargo tables on our Discord server. --[[User:BladeofEvilsBane|BladeofEvilsBane]] ([[User talk:BladeofEvilsBane|talk]]) 19:00, August 26, 2023 (EDT)
  
==Page about sleep==
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== Ideas. ==
I think we need a page on this wiki about sleep, we could talk about all the messages left on doors while villagers are asleep, what hours they fall asleep and wake up at on each day, etc. Anyone got any thoughts on this? [[User:Meganium39|Meganium39]] ([[User talk:Meganium39|talk]]) 05:58, July 22, 2021 (EDT)
 
  
:I think this is an interesting idea, I just don't know if there is enough information for its own page. If you'd like to mockup the page in a sandbox to get an idea of how much info there is that would be helpful. And then if it looks good we can move it to the main article space. At the very least though, sleep schedules deserve mention in the personality section on the [[villager]] page. I think they are only mentioned on the individual personality pages right now. [[File:Sunmarshsignature.png|link=User:Sunmarsh]] '''<small><span style="font-variant:small-caps">([[User_talk:Sunmarsh|<span style="color:#7B7B7B">talk</span>]])</span></small>''' 13:12, July 23, 2021 (EDT)
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1. Project Trivia. A project focused on trivia. I would be happy to lead this project.
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2. An Animal Crossing Debate Club.
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Thanks, --[[User:SunsetBay|<span style="font-family:Inconsolata;color:#CB6AE7">SunsetBay</span>]] ([[User talk:SunsetBay|<span style="font-family:Inconsolata;color:#E283ED">Talk</span>]]) [[File:Margie NL Villager Icon.png|25px]] 14:29, September 5, 2023 (EDT)
  
== Doubutsu no Mori e+ Monthly Fishes: New pages or extra sections on Animal Crossing pages? ==
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:Going to lean with the former not being necessary. Trivia as a whole is not an inherent ''requirement'' for pages to have, and in many instances (broadly across all wikis, not exclusively here), people get really obsessed with adding trivia points that would much better be served in main article sections like descriptions or are so vague or stretches that they aren't inherently useful—I'd be concerned a project like that would encourage something like that. If the project was to perhaps update and consolidate or re-integrate trivia, I would be more on board.
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:The idea of a debate club is cool, but it's not really what a wiki is for. Furthermore, the format of a wiki isn't terribly constructive for a rapid-fire debate club style of writing/conversation. I would suggest joining an Animal Crossing discord (or making your own) for something like this.
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:These are just my opinions on the matter, hope it helps. [[User:Trig Jegman|Trig]] - 02:28, September 28, 2023 (EDT)
  
Hi. I was asked to post this question here because I added sections for {{DnMe+}} on [[https://nookipedia.com/wiki/Fish/Animal_Crossing/January]] and subsequent articles up to May atm, and while I didn't think much about them, I should have probably asked others beforehand.
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::OK, Thanks, --[[User:SunsetBay|<span style="font-family:Inconsolata;color:#CB6AE7">SunsetBay</span>]] ([[User talk:SunsetBay|<span style="font-family:Inconsolata;color:#E283ED">Talk</span>]]) [[File:Margie NL Villager Icon.png|25px]] 07:23, October 1, 2023 (EDT)
Here's the issue, resumed:
 
* {{DnMe+}} was missing all pages for monthly fishes, so I, instead of making new pages per month for the 8 new fishes added to this game, decided to include those in a section of the {{PG}} monthly fishes pages.
 
* While I did it to prevent copying all {{PG}}'s monthly pages only to add those 8 fishes, or for making a really short page, it hadn't occurred to me that such change could be questionable, as both games are seen as quite different, but in reality {{DnMe+}} hadn't expanded much on the fishes, bugs, and fossils areas.
 
Given that the changes I tried to do weren't as small as I thought, I came here to ask everyone interested for a better solution to this. By either undoing the changes and placing that list on its own page, changing the title to reflect the actual change inside of the article, or by doing something someone else thinks that's better. {{Unsigned|SEISHI★}}
 
:I {{Oppose}}. I'd prefer to make a list Like [[Fish/Doubutsu no Mori e+/May|this]]. Petaldancer66😺 [[User:Petaldancer66|Petaldancer66]] [[User talk:Petaldancer66|talk]] 19:09, July 22, 2021 (EDT)
 
  
:First off, I just want to say that I appreciate you taking the initiative work with cargo and generate these tables for us. You've done a great job so far. That said, while I agree that it does seem a little silly to generate a very similar table for e+ on its own page, we've established a naming system where each game gets its own yearly and monthly lists, regardless of how similar those lists may end up being. ({{DnM+|nolink}} doesn't get its own list because it is the Japanese version of {{PG|nolink}}, even though there are significant localization differences between them.) So, in summary, for consistency I think it would be better to have the full e+ list on its own page. [[File:Sunmarshsignature.png|link=User:Sunmarsh]] '''<small><span style="font-variant:small-caps">([[User_talk:Sunmarsh|<span style="color:#7B7B7B">talk</span>]])</span></small>''' 13:23, July 23, 2021 (EDT)
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== Discussing our proposal system ==
::I see, I probably should have done that from the very beginning instead of deciding on my own to simplify everything (even if it was mostly copying and pasting code). Unless I see someone else has fixed what I've done in the time I wasn't around, I'll start undoing my changes and creating the respectives pages for each month in e+. Thank you very much to the both of you and sorry for cluttering those pages up, lol -- [[User:SEISHI★|SEISHI★]] ([[User talk:SEISHI★|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/SEISHI★|contributions]]) 09:28, July 24, 2021 (EDT)
 
  
== New navbox for {{Film}} ==
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I'm starting to think non-Trustees shouldn't make proposals here. While so far we only had FroggyPotter's recent proposal asking for "one staff to be active at all time", I get this feeling that users not acquainted with policy-making will go to the proposal system for something that isn't a change affecting "a large number of pages or users".
  
So I had an idea to create a new navbox for {{Film}}, and this is what I've developed so far:
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What do you think? Should we limit the creation of proposal to only Trustees or not? -- [[User:PanchamBro|PanchamBro]] ([[User talk:PanchamBro|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/PanchamBro|contributions]]) 16:32, September 5, 2023 (EDT)
  
{{Navbox
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*{{Comment}} I probably wouldn't support going that far; I think everyone should have a chance to submit their ideas as a proposal. We could limit to autoconfirmed, but that wouldn't help much.
| Title          = ''Gekijōban Doubutsu no Mori''
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:I do, however, think there should be an ability for admins to veto proposals that are clearly unnecessary or relate to how the staff operate, like there is on MarioWiki. FroggyPotter's proposal would fall into the latter category. [[User:Drago|<span style="font-family:Coustard;color:green">Drago</span>]] [[User talk:Drago|<span style="font-family:Coustard;color:purple">(talk)</span>]]    [[File:Drago PC Villager Icon.png|20px]] 10:46, September 6, 2023 (EDT)
| Link          = Gekijōban Doubutsu no Mori
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:*I dig an ability to veto a proposal that is unnecessary or is in regards to staff and all. -- [[User:PanchamBro|PanchamBro]] ([[User talk:PanchamBro|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/PanchamBro|contributions]]) 16:32, September 7, 2023 (EDT)
| PrimaryColor  = 318 69
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::*When overhauling Inkipedia's proposal system recently, we introduced a veto that would require three administrators to veto a proposal in a publicly listed third vote in order to shut things down. Not saying this is better or worse than the above listed, just that it is another option. [[User:Trig Jegman|Trig]] - 02:28, September 28, 2023 (EDT)
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*{{Comment}} Agree with Drago on both points. [[User:Chubby Bub|Chubby Bub]] ([[User talk:Chubby Bub|talk]]) 21:00, September 6, 2023 (EDT)
  
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== Translating the wiki ==
| Group          = Media
 
| List          = {{Film}} • ''[[Gekijōban Doubutsu no Mori: Original Soundtrack|Gekijōban Doubutsu no Mori: OST]]''
 
  
<!-- CHARACTERS -->
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I would like to translate the wiki to Italian. Does anyone know if I have to get permission or if there's a way to add new languages to pages?
| Group2          = Characters
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Edit: I see both the Spanish and German version have gone separate ways but I was aiming to just add something to Nookipedia itself.
| List2          = [[Ai]] • [[Apollo]] • [[Blathers]] • [[Brewster]] • [[Celeste]] • [[Cesar]] • [[Champ]] • [[Cyrano]] • [[Gulliver]] • [[Hopper]] • [[K.K. Slider]] • [[Kapp'n]] • [[Mabel]] • [[Margie]] • [[Mr. Resetti]] • [[Pascal]] [[Pelly]] • [[Pete]] • [[Phyllis]] • [[Redd]] • [[Rosie]] • [[Sable]] • [[Timmy and Tommy]] • [[Tom Nook]] • [[Tortimer]] • [[Wendell]] • [[Whitney]] • [[Yū]]
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[[User:FUGOSHROOM|FUGOSHROOM]] ([[User talk:FUGOSHROOM|talk]]) 15:20, October 14, 2023 (EDT)FUGOSHROOM
  
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== Delete single-character species pages ==
| Group3          = Voice actor
 
| List3          = [[Mari Adachi]] • [[Hisao Egawa]] • [[Takaya Hashi]] • [[Saori Hattori]] • [[Yurika Hino]] • [[Yui Horie]] • [[Mitsup Iwata]] • [[Takatoshi Kaneko]] • [[Mika Kanai]] • [[Yuichi Kimura]] • [[Yū Kobayashi]] • [[Takashi Miike]] • [[Fukuen Misato]] • [[Yuko Mizutani]] • [[Kenichi Ogata]] • [[Shun Oguri]] • [[Fumiko Orikasa]] • [[Otoha]] • [[Tetsuo Sakagachi]] • [[Akio Suyama]] • [[Wataru Takagi]] • [[Yasuhiro Takata]] • [[Kazuya Tatekabe]] • [[Junpei Takiguchi]] • [[Naoki Tatsuta]] • [[Masaki Terasoma]] • [[Yuji Ueda]] • [[Kappei Yamaguchi]]
 
  
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There are currently 18 species pages for species that only contain a single character. All of them are no longer than one or two sentences, usually just describing what the character does or what they look like, which is already covered on that character's own article. Therefore, I propose that these pages be redirected to their respective characters' pages. The following pages would be affected by this:
| Group4          = Personnel
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{{Columns-list|
| List4          = [[Jōji Shimura]] [[Bunshō Kajiya]] [[Aya Matsui]] [[Kazumi Totaka]] [[Kōji Yamakoshi]] [[Toshio Henmi]]
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*[[Axolotl]] ([[Dr. Shrunk]])
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*[[Camel]] ([[Saharah]])
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*[[Fox]] ([[Redd]])
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*[[Frill-necked lizard]] ([[Frillard]])
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*[[Fur seal]] ([[Phineas]])
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*[[Giraffe]] ([[Gracie]])
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*[[Gray langur]] ([[Niko]])
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*[[Gyroid (species)]] ([[Lloid]])
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*[[Manatee]] ([[Wardell]])
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*[[Panther]] ([[Katrina]])
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*[[Peacock]] ([[Pavé]])
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*[[Pigeon]] ([[Brewster]])
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*[[Reindeer]] ([[Jingle]])
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*[[Skunk]] ([[Kicks]])
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*[[Sloth]] ([[Leif]])
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*[[Tapir]] ([[Luna]])
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*[[Turkey]] ([[Franklin]])
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*[[Walrus]] ([[Wendell]])
 
}}
 
}}
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'''~'''&nbsp;[[User:AlexBot2004|<span style="font-family:Coustard;color:#1C662A">'''AlexBot2004'''</span>]]&nbsp;([[User talk:AlexBot2004|<span style="font-family:Coustard;color:black">Talk</span>]]) 02:26, December 21, 2023 (EST)
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:{{Comment}} For the most part, I don't have any attachment to the single-special-character species pages, though it would be a loss for the [[fox]], [[gray langur]], [[peacock]], and [[reindeer]] pages specifically, since those happen to have additional information involving related villagers that are depicted to be the same as those species, in appearance only (e.g. [[Audie]] and [[Chief]] on the fox page). Though that's not to say it means we should keep these species pages, because it's not like there's pages for every unique portrayal of an animal villager species (like zebra for [[Savannah]], flamingo for [[Flora]], etc.), just the villagers that coincidentally line up with special character species. Though I felt like it was worth noting for a fuller picture for the vote. [[User:HylianAngel|HylianAngel]] ([[User talk:HylianAngel|talk]]) 03:00, December 21, 2023 (EST)
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:{{Support}} I feel there isn't much point in giving a species a dedicated article if there's only one character of said species, cuz there really isn't much (if anything) the species page can cover that the character's article can't (lest we wanna fill 'em with a bunch of real-world info that has no relevancy to the character/series).<br>I also noticed that the axolotl page has an image of its real-life counterpart, with the only other species page with this distinction being [[raccoon]]. Admittedly I question the necessity of these images (mostly the raccoon dog pic, anyway), but I'll save that for different discussion, I just wanted to bring it up. [[File:Snapping Turtle NH Icon.png|25px]]'''The [[User:The Jacketed Terrapin|<span style="color: blue;">Jacketed</span>]] [[User talk:The Jacketed Terrapin|<span style="color: green;">Terrapin</span>]]'''[[File:Soft-Shelled Turtle NH Icon.png|25px]] 14:00, December 21, 2023 (EST)
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:{{Comment}} I feel that it ''would'' be a good cleanup, but yeah,  as stated above, some pages show some details, like [[Julia]] resembling a [[Peacock]] or [[Deli]] looking like a gray tangur, although they are listed under different species. '''''[[User:Briky|Briky]]'''''[[File:Emotion Greetings NH Icon.png|30px]] 02:44, January 6, 2024 (EST)
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:{{Oppose}} While I get the reasons behind this, I think we shouldn't rule out the possibilities of new characters based on these species in case if future ''Animal Crossing'' games comes around. Case in point: ''New Horizons'' brought several new characters like [[C.J.]], [[Flick]], [[Daisy Mae]] and [[Gullivarrr]], which represents beaver, chameleon, boar and seagull respectively, which prior to ''New Horizons'' also have only one characters. If they didn't get introduced, these species pages might possibly be on jeopardy as well. There's also some trivia but notable mentions like from [[Erik]] and Julia which were easily found in these species pages. For these reasons, I have to disagree with this. <span style="background:linear-gradient(0deg,blue,cyan); -webkit-background-clip:text !important; -webkit-text-fill-color:transparent;">'''''[[User:Starry Windy|Starry Windy]]'''''</span>[[User talk:Starry Windy|<span style="color:gold">★</span>]] 18:47, January 6, 2024 (EST)
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::If more characters in these species are introduced in later games, then we can recreate these pages then. But as it is now, these pages don't offer any information that isn't already on the character's page. I agree that it's worth noting the villagers who resemble some of these species, but that can be noted on that villager's page in the "Appearance" section. '''~'''&nbsp;[[User:AlexBot2004|<span style="font-family:Coustard;color:#1C662A">'''AlexBot2004'''</span>]]&nbsp;([[User talk:AlexBot2004|<span style="font-family:Coustard;color:black">Talk</span>]]) 18:55, January 6, 2024 (EST)
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:{{Comment}} Could we not merge them all into a single page? --[[File:Shark HHD Icon.png|20px]] [[User:Dorsal Axe|<span style="color:#0B3E57; font-family: Coustard">Dorsal Axe</span>]] <span style="font-family: Coustard"><small>([[User talk:Dorsal Axe|talk]])</small></span> 04:31, February 4, 2024 (EST)
  
Let me know what are your thoughts on the new navbox and whether or not it's necessary. -- [[User:PanchamBro|PanchamBro]] ([[User talk:PanchamBro|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/PanchamBro|contributions]]) 05:47, July 25, 2021 (EDT)
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== Use screenshots instead of artwork on special character pages ==
:Looks good! I think we could also add a section for [[:Category:Gekijōban Doubutsu no Mori locations|locations]]. '''~'''&nbsp;[[User:AlexBot2004|<span style="font-family:Coustard;color:#1C662A">'''AlexBot2004'''</span>]]&nbsp;([[User talk:AlexBot2004|<span style="font-family:Coustard;color:black">Talk</span>]]) 16:37, July 25, 2021 (EDT)
 
::Again, looks good. We gonna have to create redlink pages at some ponit tho. Petaldancer66😺 [[User:Petaldancer66|Petaldancer66]] [[User talk:Petaldancer66|talk]] 23:01, August 3, 2021 (EDT)
 
 
 
== Images ==
 
 
 
The Tie dye shirt CF page got deleted so I think the images should be deleted too. The Files are File:Green tie-dye.jpg, File:Orange tie-dye.jpg, File:Purple tie-dye.jpg, File:Red tie-dye.jpg, and File:Blue tie-dye.jpg. If there are any more just tell me here. Petaldancer66😺 [[User:Petaldancer66|Petaldancer66]] [[User talk:Petaldancer66|talk]] 17:10, July 27, 2021 (EDT)
 
:{{Oppose}}. The images could always be used for a list of clothing in {{CF|short|nolink}} when we get to that. ~ [[User:Vivian|<span style="font-family:Coustard;color:#c6a469">Vivian</span>]] [[User talk:Vivian|<span style="font-family:Coustard;color:grey">(talk)</span>]]    [[File:Vivian DnMe+ Minigame.png|20px|link=Special:Contributions/Vivian]] 17:21, July 27, 2021 (EDT)
 
Ya probably could. Petaldancer66😺 [[User:Petaldancer66|Petaldancer66]] [[User talk:Petaldancer66|talk]] 22:52, July 28, 2021 (EDT)
 
:I disagree with Vivian. While we haven't gotten to {{CF}} items yet, we have to recognize that eventually they'll be replaced by transparent images provided by Phil and [[User:AlexBot2004|Alex]] whenever they get to images for {{CF|short|nolink}} items. We can keep the images for now, but they will be deleted upon replacement. -- [[User:PanchamBro|PanchamBro]] ([[User talk:PanchamBro|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/PanchamBro|contributions]]) 23:45, July 28, 2021 (EDT)
 
 
 
== Individual item pages for [[stationery]] ==
 
 
 
I would like to suggest individual item pages for specific stationeries. Particularly because until {{NH}}, they are items that the player can collect, and the [[Stationery]] page is not enough to document the specifics in general. I would say it would be perfectly suitable for games before {{NH|short|nolink}}, but for {{NH|short|nolink}} stationeries, I would like to know whether or not those stationeries deserve their own page. -- [[User:PanchamBro|PanchamBro]] ([[User talk:PanchamBro|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/PanchamBro|contributions]]) 17:34, August 2, 2021 (EDT)
 
 
 
:I agree that for games prior to {{NH|short}}, all stationery deserve their own item pages. I would argue that since stationery is no longer an obtainable item (and does not appear in the item catalog) in NH it doesn't make sense to put NH stationery into the Item namespace. [[File:Sunmarshsignature.png|link=User:Sunmarsh]] '''<small><span style="font-variant:small-caps">([[User_talk:Sunmarsh|<span style="color:#7B7B7B">talk</span>]])</span></small>''' 22:29, August 5, 2021 (EDT)
 
::I see the point, though I do think we could find a way to include other translations for various stationeries in {{NH}}. Would there be any tangible way to include translations for each stationary in {{NH|short|nolink}}? -- [[User:PanchamBro|PanchamBro]] ([[User talk:PanchamBro|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/PanchamBro|contributions]]) 22:47, August 5, 2021 (EDT)
 
:::You know, thinking about it again I think I've changed my mind lol. There are stationery items in previous games that are unobtainable (although they sometimes appear in the catalog), so existing as an inventory item or place-able object is kind of an arbitrary rule to decide on whether or not something is an item. Plus, there is a mailbox 'inventory' of sorts that can store letters in {{NH|short|nolink}}. Using the existing infobox templates on designated item pages would also be easier/more consistent. So I think I'm on board with the idea. I'm still curious what other editors think though. [[File:Sunmarshsignature.png|link=User:Sunmarsh]] '''<small><span style="font-variant:small-caps">([[User_talk:Sunmarsh|<span style="color:#7B7B7B">talk</span>]])</span></small>''' 23:24, August 5, 2021 (EDT)
 
  
== Link template refactor ==
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Right now, on special character pages in the "Appearances" sections for each game, we generally have artwork of that character from that game. However, I think screenshots from that game would be much more useful to readers, both in showing how the character appears/works in each game, and to better illustrate what is being described in the prose. I think artwork doesn't really add much and is better suited for the character's gallery page. '''~'''&nbsp;[[User:AlexBot2004|<span style="font-family:Coustard;color:#1C662A">'''AlexBot2004'''</span>]]&nbsp;([[User talk:AlexBot2004|<span style="font-family:Coustard;color:black">Talk</span>]]) 16:44, December 25, 2023 (EST)
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:{{Support}} That's the most logical system for portraying the content and how it should consistently be everywhere. I think the only reason why it's not already like that is because of the lack of special character screenshots for each game in the series. [[Blanca]] and [[Katie]] in the older games would be especially difficult. [[User:HylianAngel|HylianAngel]] ([[User talk:HylianAngel|talk]]) 20:38, January 6, 2024 (EST)
  
Hello everyone, I wanted to get your thoughts on re-coding our [[:Category:Link templates|link templates]]. Right now they use a lot of nested switches and are a bit dense/difficult to edit. But more than just replicating the original functionality, I also wanted to take this opportunity to improve them and wanted to get your input on this.
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== Cantonese spelling ==
  
Proposed changes:
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I'm not sure if it's alright to create a new section here because I've covered this on several threads before, but I think it would be a good time to discuss which kind of spelling that will be used on Cantonese romanizations. As described on previous threads, I'm not a Cantonese speaker, but I wanted the Cantonese spellings to be filled. The thing is, Cantonese has several known spellings which makes me not sure which one to put in.
* Shortening the <code>nolink</code> parameter to <code>nl</code>.
 
* Removing the <code>shorter</code> parameter altogether and just having the long name ({{NH}}), the short name ({{NH|short}}), and the abbreviation ({{NH|shortest}}).
 
* Changing the default behavior to produce the short name ({{NH|short}}) instead of the full name ({{NH}}).
 
** Adding the parameter <code>full</code> to produce the full name ({{NH}}).
 
* Changing the <code>shortest</code> parameter (e.g. {{NH|shortest}}) to <code>ab</code> (short for 'abbreviation') or <code>acro</code> (short for 'acronym').
 
  
These link templates are the most used templates on the site. The {{t|NH}} template alone is used on over 30,000 pages, so this is something that would affect nearly every page of the wiki (as at least one of these templates is probably found there). Would love to hear your thoughts on the proposed changes, and also on implementation. Do you even think it's worth it to change these templates? All feedback is welcome. [[File:Sunmarshsignature.png|link=User:Sunmarsh]] '''<small><span style="font-variant:small-caps">([[User_talk:Sunmarsh|<span style="color:#7B7B7B">talk</span>]])</span></small>''' 23:17, August 5, 2021 (EDT)
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You see, Yale romanization and Jyutping are two of the things that I considered. Yale seems to be used in a certain NIWA sites that I know of, like Bulbapedia, and some of the spellings here are Yale-esque. On other side, Jyutping is considered to be newer, and sites like Wiktionary seems to be fond of using it. I'll give some examples for comparison, but I'm taking cues from a certain pinyin converter, so I'm not 100% sure if it's accurate, but here goes:
:I don't see a reason why "{{#if: shorter
 
    | {{#switch: shorter
 
          | nolink = {{#if:
 
              | {{#switch:
 
                    | short = {{#if:
 
                        | {{#ifeq:
 
                              | sm
 
                              | <small>''New Horizons''</small>
 
                              | 3<sup>rd</sup> parameter invalid
 
                              }}
 
                        | ''New Horizons''
 
                        }}
 
                    | shorter = {{#if:
 
                        | {{#ifeq:
 
                              | sm
 
                              | <small>ACNH</small>
 
                              | 3<sup>rd</sup> parameter invalid
 
                              }}
 
                        | ACNH
 
                        }}
 
                    | shortest = {{#if:
 
                        | {{#ifeq:
 
                              | sm
 
                              | <small>NH</small>
 
                              | 3<sup>rd</sup> parameter invalid
 
                              }}
 
                        | NH
 
                        }}
 
                    | sm = {{#if:
 
                        | {{#switch:
 
                              | short = <small>''New Horizons''</small>
 
                              | shorter = <small>ACNH</small>
 
                              | shortest = <small>NH</small>
 
                              | 3<sup>rd</sup> parameter invalid
 
                              }}
 
                        | <small>''Animal Crossing: New Horizons''</small>
 
                        }}
 
                    | 2<sup>nd</sup> parameter invalid
 
                    }}
 
              | ''Animal Crossing: New Horizons''
 
              }}
 
          | short = {{#if:
 
              | {{#switch:
 
                    | sm =  {{#if:
 
                        | {{#ifeq:
 
                              | nolink
 
                              | <small>''New Horizons''</small>
 
                              | 3<sup>rd</sup> parameter invalid
 
                              }}
 
                        | <small>''[[Animal Crossing: New Horizons|New Horizons]]''</small>
 
                        }}
 
                    | nolink =  {{#if:
 
                        | {{#ifeq:
 
                              | sm
 
                              | <small>''New Horizons''</small>
 
                              | 3<sup>rd</sup> parameter invalid
 
                              }}
 
                        | ''New Horizons''
 
                        }}
 
                    | 2<sup>nd</sup> parameter invalid
 
                    }}
 
              | ''[[Animal Crossing: New Horizons|New Horizons]]''
 
              }}
 
          | shorter = {{#if:
 
              | {{#switch:
 
                    | sm =  {{#if:
 
                        | {{#ifeq:
 
                              | nolink
 
                              | <small>ACNH</small>
 
                              | 3<sup>rd</sup> parameter invalid
 
                              }}
 
                        | <small>[[Animal Crossing: New Horizons|ACNH]]</small>
 
                        }}
 
                    | nolink =  {{#if:
 
                        | {{#ifeq:
 
                              | sm
 
                              | <small>ACNH</small>
 
                              | 3<sup>rd</sup> parameter invalid
 
                              }}
 
                        | ACNH
 
                        }}
 
                    | 2<sup>nd</sup> parameter invalid
 
                    }}
 
              | [[Animal Crossing: New Horizons|ACNH]]
 
              }}
 
          | shortest = {{#if:
 
              | {{#switch:
 
                    | sm =  {{#if:
 
                        | {{#ifeq:
 
                              | nolink
 
                              | <small>NH</small>
 
                              | 3<sup>rd</sup> parameter invalid
 
                              }}
 
                        | <small>[[Animal Crossing: New Horizons|NH]]</small>
 
                        }}
 
                    | nolink =  {{#if:
 
                        | {{#ifeq:
 
                              | sm
 
                              | <small>NH</small>
 
                              | 3<sup>rd</sup> parameter invalid
 
                              }}
 
                        | NH
 
                        }}
 
                    | 2<sup>nd</sup> parameter invalid
 
                    }}
 
              | [[Animal Crossing: New Horizons|NH]]
 
              }}
 
          | sm = {{#if:
 
              | {{#switch:
 
                    | short = {{#if:
 
                        | {{#ifeq:
 
                              | nolink
 
                              | <small>''New Horizons''</small>
 
                              | 3<sup>rd</sup> parameter invalid
 
                              }}
 
                        | <small>''[[Animal Crossing: New Horizons|New Horizons]]''</small>
 
                        }}
 
                    | shorter = {{#if:
 
                        | {{#ifeq:
 
                              | nolink
 
                              | <small>ACNH</small>
 
                              | 3<sup>rd</sup> parameter invalid
 
                              }}
 
                        | <small>[[Animal Crossing: New Horizons|ACNH]]</small>
 
                        }}
 
                    | shortest = {{#if:
 
                        | {{#ifeq:
 
                              | nolink
 
                              | <small>NH</small>
 
                              | 3<sup>rd</sup> parameter invalid
 
                              }}
 
                        | <small>[[Animal Crossing: New Horizons|NH]]</small>
 
                        }}
 
                    | nolink = {{#if:
 
                        | {{#switch:
 
                              | short = <small>''New Horizons''</small>
 
                              | shorter = <small>ACNH</small>
 
                              | shortest = <small>NH</small>
 
                              | 3<sup>rd</sup> parameter invalid
 
                              }}
 
                        | <small>''Animal Crossing: New Horizons''</small>
 
                        }}
 
                    | 2<sup>nd</sup> parameter invalid
 
                    }}
 
              | <small>''[[Animal Crossing: New Horizons]]''</small>
 
              }}
 
          | 1<sup>st</sup> parameter invalid
 
          }}
 
    | ''[[Animal Crossing: New Horizons]]''
 
    }}" could be used for an article link, so I {{Support}} removing it. As for the template changes, I think I have a weak {{Support}} given how massive these templates are being used and the massive work that will need to be done to change all of those parameters. But I'm not opposed, I think the replacements may work out well. -- [[User:PanchamBro|PanchamBro]] ([[User talk:PanchamBro|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/PanchamBro|contributions]]) 01:43, August 10, 2021 (EDT)
 
  
== Addressing problematic issues with the [[Nook Shopping seasonal event]] page ==
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'''Blathers (傅達)'''<br>
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Yale romanization: fuh daaht<br>
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Jyutping romanization: fu6 daat6
  
This is not something that can be easily swayed for given the circumstances at hand here, but I think we may as well address the current uprising.
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'''Brewster (老闆)'''<br>
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Yale romanization: lóuh báan<br>
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Jyutping romanization: lou5 baan2
  
As of now, Nintendo is leaning focus to perpetuate a cycle of [[Nook Shopping seasonal event]]s while they wiggle it out with adding new content. Looking at these "events" closely, the only major factor is that these events just has the player purchase them via Nook Shopping and have it straight delivered from there.
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'''Isabelle (西施惠)'''<br>
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Yale romanization: sāi sī waih<br>
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Jyutping romanization: sai1 si1 wai6
  
However, having it be logged in a single page present some problems. Firstly, although they are significantly minor events that are way less interactive than the previous events at hand, they are still events. They still count as an event internally through the game's code. Secondly, each event name has its own set of translations that cannot simply be fit on a page that is already becoming too big. There's also the added bonus of not being able to use interlanguage links to our German affiliate for these specific events, but they do have a unified page, so it isn't a problem.  
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Now, I've been thinking three options. Option A is to have Yale romanization being used entirely, or Option B where Jyutping is used in all the pages. There's also Option C where Yale and Jyutping romanization being used side by side, even though I'm not sure if infoboxes would allow two of them. Or is there another way to do it? And what do you guys think? Please respond kindly, thanks. <span style="background:linear-gradient(0deg,blue,cyan); -webkit-background-clip:text !important; -webkit-text-fill-color:transparent;">'''''[[User:Starry Windy|Starry Windy]]'''''</span>[[User talk:Starry Windy|<span style="color:gold">★</span>]] 11:15, January 3, 2024 (EST)
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:I'm down to changing how we do romanizations in general. A thing that bothers me is that there aren't many good sites out there that can get us accurate romanizations for Japanese, Korean, and Chinese (like any of them really). Definitely a goal to be made when Project Languages comes into fruition. -- [[User:PanchamBro|PanchamBro]] ([[User talk:PanchamBro|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/PanchamBro|contributions]]) 07:36, January 6, 2024 (EST)
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::Actually, I think Chinese romanizations are pretty much standardized. For Simplified Chinese, we often use [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pinyin Hanyu Pinyin] which is widely used in Mainland China and Singapore according to Wikipedia, and is considered the international standard. And I'm pretty sure we've used this one in practically all articles that has it. Other notable romanizations include [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gwoyeu_Romatzyh Gwoyeu Romatzyh] which was used back then but rarely so nowadays, and also Wade-Giles and Yale.
  
What is a problem though, is that as Nintendo continues to grow the list of items, it's starting to grow more unbearable to add these new events and items to the table. And all that mess results in a table that is why less mobile friendly than it is. The table looks good on desktop, but looks outright intimidating on mobile. There are ways to make the table not stick out as a sore thumb, but because all that information needs to be scrolled horizontally, there is the potential for readers to not see a complete information.
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::Speaking of Yale, it has two kinds of romanizations, one for Mandarin and [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yale_romanization_of_Cantonese one for Cantonese]. The latter apparently is still widely used, it's systematic in how things are spelled, which somehow almost mirrors Hanyu Pinyin in some ways. Apart from Yale, I also think of [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jyutping Jyutping] as systematic spelling. And I haven't even get started on [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cantonese_Pinyin Cantonese Pinyin], which is a real deal as well. Things to note, the reason I'm not sure on how accurate the Cantonese romanizations are is simply because I didn't learn much on Cantonese yet. <span style="background:linear-gradient(0deg,blue,cyan); -webkit-background-clip:text !important; -webkit-text-fill-color:transparent;">'''''[[User:Starry Windy|Starry Windy]]'''''</span>[[User talk:Starry Windy|<span style="color:gold">★</span>]] 08:45, January 6, 2024 (EST)
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:::It's moreso the fact that it's harder to find sites that can auto-romanize them, but I do feel it's important to have someone experienced with that language to handle that romanization. -- [[User:PanchamBro|PanchamBro]] ([[User talk:PanchamBro|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/PanchamBro|contributions]]) 08:48, January 6, 2024 (EST)
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::::Well, I do found one site for it. For the examples I gave above, I was taking reference from [https://hongkongvision.com/tool/cc_py_conv_en this site], and I find the spelling for [[Marina]] was a 100% match. It's from this site that I knew Bulbapedia used Yale spelling, too. Still, I also agreed that we need someone experienced on Cantonese, too. <span style="background:linear-gradient(0deg,blue,cyan); -webkit-background-clip:text !important; -webkit-text-fill-color:transparent;">'''''[[User:Starry Windy|Starry Windy]]'''''</span>[[User talk:Starry Windy|<span style="color:gold">★</span>]] 08:55, January 6, 2024 (EST)
  
At this point, there are three ways to approach this issue:
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== A new Project? ==
#Create pages for Nook Shopping event. Now this won't eliminate the Nook Shopping event page in general, but it will help downsize the page's main table significantly since we want to assure that our mobile readers can read their info better by not forcing them to scroll horizontally. Individual pages also have the opportunity to add in missing translations that we have not added yet. This present a problem however, since there is very little to say about these events other than a small pace of words.
 
#Downsize the table into a few columns, and just have event names, date, or description. It's not ideal, certainly there are merits to have info about this events, but it is something to help improve readability on this page.
 
#Transform the table into an article-based structure where each event gets a date and the list of items. This would mean that we'd have a longer page to scroll through, but it is certainly better than having a table that readers will need to horizontally scroll though to see the other portions of information.
 
  
These are just a few ways to go through this issue, but I'd like to know what are your thoughts on the option and if there are any ways to address this problem. -- [[User:PanchamBro|PanchamBro]] ([[User talk:PanchamBro|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/PanchamBro|contributions]]) 04:19, August 10, 2021 (EDT)
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Idea: Project Languages! It would be centered around interwiki links and modifying the villagers' articles to make them more... accessible for those who don't speak English, such as links to the [https://animalcrossing.wikidex.net/wiki/Portada Spanish] and [https://animalcrossingwiki.de/ German] Animal Crossing wikis, and... More details in other languages than just the names, such as the photo quotes and catchphrases. You know, make the wiki more open to people who don't speak English. '''''[[User:Briky|Briky]]'''''[[File:Emotion Greetings NH Icon.png|30px]] 16:37, January 6, 2024 (EST)
:I think we should treat them as standard events and give them their own pages. Even though they only offer an item and some info about the event itself, at the end of the day that's all the minor events in previous games were (going to Isabelle/Tortimer and getting an item and some event-exclusive dialog). '''~'''&nbsp;[[User:AlexBot2004|<span style="font-family:Coustard;color:#1C662A">'''AlexBot2004'''</span>]]&nbsp;([[User talk:AlexBot2004|<span style="font-family:Coustard;color:black">Talk</span>]]) 17:14, August 10, 2021 (EDT)
 
  
:I agree with Alexbot2004 that each event should have its own page. That will solve the translation issue and will open up the opportunity to cargo store event info (if we aren't doing that already). As for the table issue, I think it would be great if we could develop some way to have tables display less columns on screens with less space. If that's not feasible, I think moving the description to each event's individual article page will go a long way to reduce horizontal scrolling. You could also condense columns into the same cell (for example, place the date below the event name on a new line instead of in a separate column) to help with this as well since the table isn't sortable. [[File:Sunmarshsignature.png|link=User:Sunmarsh]] '''<small><span style="font-variant:small-caps">([[User_talk:Sunmarsh|<span style="color:#7B7B7B">talk</span>]])</span></small>''' 22:15, August 10, 2021 (EDT)
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I actually just looked at the [[Nookipedia_talk:The_Roost#Non-English_names_as_redirects.2Fdisambiguation_pages|top post]] here, so maybe we could combine this with that? And I ''also'' saw an idea that comes from 2021 on the [[Nookipedia_talk:Projects|Projects talk page]]: Something called "Project Linguistics". Well, if it's okay for the creator of the original idea, I think I've found the name for this project! '''''[[User:Briky|Briky]]'''''[[File:Emotion Greetings NH Icon.png|30px]] 16:43, January 6, 2024 (EST)
  
== Where to link Wild World items to? ==
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==Possible Incorrect Genre for the Wild World Rubber Plant==
  
Hi, I've recently been trying to edit some Wild World item lists to include their textures in pages like this:
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Hi there! I've been playing Animal Crossing: Wild World quite a lot lately and had a villager that was into collecting Old-school furniture. The [[Item:Rubber_tree_(Wild_World)|Rubber Plant]] was in Nook's store and is on the old-school list, so I grabbed it. When I gave the villager the rubber plant, he rejected it saying it's not old-school. He refused to take it when I tried again. I'm not sure which genre it's supposed to be corrected to though. (Sorry if I'm doing this the wrong way, I'm new!)
https://nookipedia.com/wiki/Wallpaper/Wild_World
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[[User:MadRayne|MadRayne]] ([[User talk:MadRayne|talk]]) 16:21, January 8, 2024 (EST)
I wanted to link the items to their individual pages, for example, the Ancient Wall to Item:Ancient Wall, but I found the only related item pages are for Animal Crossing (the first one) and for New Horizons. So my question is, is it fine for me to link the Wild World list to the Animal Crossing Item pages? And if it is, should they be edited to add the Wild World textures? Sorry if it has been discussed elsewhere, I didn't quite know where to ask this. --[[User:Roli300|Roli300]] ([[User talk:Roli300|talk]]) 08:33, September 3, 2021 (EDT)
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:It looks like all the items in the [[House Plant Set]] had incorrect genres; they have all been corrected to Chic. All the genres are now taken directly from the game's files, so there shouldn't be any more errors. Thank you for pointing this out! '''~'''&nbsp;[[User:AlexBot2004|<span style="font-family:Coustard;color:#1C662A">'''AlexBot2004'''</span>]]&nbsp;([[User talk:AlexBot2004|<span style="font-family:Coustard;color:black">Talk</span>]]) 14:45, January 9, 2024 (EST)
:Our item pages are specific to one species of game, due to the fact that each game has its own set of data for each item. Though we haven't developed any ''Wild World'' item pages yet, you can help create those pages on this wiki. [https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1aGEu_eoS3a-g_Tf--ewS0fLhyOHbNzpSc5jtaEE8nrA/edit#gid=0 The Spreadsheet for ''Wild World'' is over here if you need to reference on making those pages]. -- [[User:PanchamBro|PanchamBro]] ([[User talk:PanchamBro|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/PanchamBro|contributions]]) 09:05, September 3, 2021 (EDT)
 
[[Category:Active discussions]]
 
  
::Oh, I see, thanks a lot for the quick response. I'll try to slowly create some Wild World pages, then. Should I use the same template as the one in the Animal Crossing pages or is there some other template I should follow? --[[User:Roli300|Roli300]] ([[User talk:Roli300|talk]]) 09:15, September 3, 2021 (EDT)
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== Userbox question ==
:::They would have to use their own template, although we have not created one yet for Wild World walls/carpets. Just to let you know though, the item pages can be created automatically by a script to save time, since there are hundreds of items in the game; this is how we created the GameCube and New Horizons pages. '''~'''&nbsp;[[User:AlexBot2004|<span style="font-family:Coustard;color:#1C662A">'''AlexBot2004'''</span>]]&nbsp;([[User talk:AlexBot2004|<span style="font-family:Coustard;color:black">Talk</span>]]) 10:18, September 3, 2021 (EDT)
 
  
:I just wanted to provide a bit more context for you in regard to your question. The wiki is moving towards a database-generated model for our item tables, meaning that we use a tool called [[Nookipedia:Project Database|Cargo]] to generate databases of items, and then we pull certain groupings of items (example:clothing, wallpaper etc.) from that database for display in tables. This way, we don't have to manually enter data cell by cell as is currently being done at [[Wallpaper/Wild World]]. In order to fill our cargo database, we create individual item pages, which have a special code in them that tells cargo to store whatever data fields we specify. So, you're more than welcome to work on a page like [[Wallpaper/Wild World]], but once the individual item pages are all created, the content at Wallpaper/Wild World will be replaced using a Cargo-generated table. Essentially your work on pages like this will eventually be 'erased'.
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Hiya im Ceariah im new to the wiki. Just a question how do you make a userbox? [[User:Ceariah|Ceariah]] ([[User talk:Ceariah|talk]]) 06:25, January 21, 2024 (EST)
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:You can go to the [[Userbox]] page to find some userboxes and a guide on how to use them. Have a good day and welcome to Nookipedia! '''''[[User:Briky|Briky]]''''' [[File:Emotion Greetings NH Icon.png|30px|If you know how to make this link to my talk page, please tell me!]] 12:28, January 24, 2024 (EST)
  
:The workflow we are currently using is something like this:
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== i got a black rose by accident ==
#Extract data from the relevant {{PG|nolink}} game (item data & images/model renders)
 
#Compile that data in a spreadsheet, broken down by item category
 
#Create the appropriate cargo & infobox templates for each item type
 
#Create a script to automatically generate pages for each item using the appropriate template(s)
 
#Once the relevant item pages have been created, create pages for lists of items, populated using cargo queries
 
  
:I'm not certain which stage we're at in this process for {{WW|short}} items, but we do have a channel on [[Nookipedia:Discord|Discord]] if you're interested in getting involved. [[File:Sunmarshsignature.png|link=User:Sunmarsh]] '''<small><span style="font-variant:small-caps">([[User_talk:Sunmarsh|<span style="color:#7B7B7B">talk</span>]])</span></small>''' 17:30, September 3, 2021 (EDT)
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woke up today to find a black rose, which surprised me because i don't even have a special red rose (i think), which you get by crossing a purple and an orange. i don't even have a purple rose anywhere in my town, only way i can see this happening is if theres another way to create a special red rose.
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[[File:NL Unintended Black Rose.png|thumb]]
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[[Category:Active discussions]] --[[User:Erick7477719|Erick7477719]] ([[User talk:Erick7477719|talk]]) 10:42, February 28, 2024 (EST)
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:There is a chance that breeding red roses will give you a black rose. At least you got one! [[User:DriftveilBread|DriftveilBread]] ([[User talk:DriftveilBread|talk]]) 12:53, March 21, 2024 (EDT)
  
== More hourly type pages for people who like playing at their local times ==
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==If I find vandalism, where should I report it?==  
  
One of the main things that i wanted to add to this wiki was to add two more pages to it.One of them would be about hourly changes to the game, for example, for the 7 A.M. section of it, there could something saying stuff like, Animal Crossing -Nook n go opens- or for the 8 P.M. section of it, Animal Crossing City Folk -K.K. Starts playing songs- which is something I've wanted on this wiki for a long time. Another page idea is for hourly songs in all of the games as well as their rain and snow versions as well as their cherry blossom and e+ versions. {{Unsigned|Admin20Z}}
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Where do I report users? [[User:Acnh Player|Acnh Player]] ([[User talk:Acnh Player|talk]]) 23:55, March 24, 2024 (EDT)
:Thanks for your suggestions, {{u|Admin20Z}}! I really like these ideas and will put them on my to-do list. Also, when you leave a comment on a talk page, please remember to sign it with four tildes at the end: <code><nowiki>~~~~</nowiki></code>. This will produce a time-stamped signature so we can all more easily follow the conversation and can see who is replying to who. [[File:Sunmarshsignature.png|link=User:Sunmarsh]] '''<small><span style="font-variant:small-caps">([[User_talk:Sunmarsh|<span style="color:#7B7B7B">talk</span>]])</span></small>''' 18:12, September 28, 2021 (EDT)
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:[[Nookipedia:Staff noticeboard]] is the best place on-wiki. '''~[[User:SuperHamster|''<span style="color:#07517C;">Super</span>''<span style="color:#6FA23B;">Hamster</span>]]''' <small>[[User talk:SuperHamster|Talk]] [[Special:Contribs/SuperHamster|Contribs]]</small> 00:07, March 25, 2024 (EDT)
 
 
== Move [[Nookipedia:Community Fountain]] over to the talk page instead ==
 
 
 
After glossing over [[Nookipedia:Community Fountain]], I have to say that there is no need for the page, especially since not much has updated for that page since {{NH}}'s launch, and it would be more appreciated to have a convenient spot to talk about discussions across Nookipedia.
 
 
 
There is still some useful info to use on Community Fountain, but I think we should just axe the page in favor of a redirect to this talk page. Do any of you agree? -- [[User:PanchamBro|PanchamBro]] ([[User talk:PanchamBro|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/PanchamBro|contributions]]) 20:47, September 30, 2021 (EDT)
 
:Move or redirect? You used both terms. '''~[[User:SuperHamster|''<span style="color:#07517C;">Super</span>''<span style="color:#6FA23B;">Hamster</span>]]''' <small>[[User talk:SuperHamster|Talk]] [[Special:Contribs/SuperHamster|Contribs]]</small> 20:53, September 30, 2021 (EDT)
 
::Ah sorry. I refer to moving as in making the main page a redirect and moving some or all content from that page over here. -- [[User:PanchamBro|PanchamBro]] ([[User talk:PanchamBro|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/PanchamBro|contributions]]) 20:54, September 30, 2021 (EDT)
 
:::Gotcha, just wanted to make sure I understood. Thanks! '''~[[User:SuperHamster|''<span style="color:#07517C;">Super</span>''<span style="color:#6FA23B;">Hamster</span>]]''' <small>[[User talk:SuperHamster|Talk]] [[Special:Contribs/SuperHamster|Contribs]]</small> 20:55, September 30, 2021 (EDT)
 
:{{Support}} - Just for reference, this was originally brought up by {{u|Drago}} back in May [https://discord.com/channels/233712028496297986/233712421477416960/844968543144378419 on Discord]. I agree that the sidebar should link to this page, rather than the project page. I don't support a redirect though, rather I think we should pare down the project page and transclude it to the top of the talk page. I suggested just keeping the 'things to do' and 'need help?' sections. If we do this though, we need to make sure we replace all links to the project page, since it will not be a redirect. This should be a relatively simple text replace.
 
 
 
:Also, this is perhaps a separate discussion, but how do we feel about changing the name of the Community Fountain to something else? It seems like maybe this was in reference to Serena's [[fountain]] in {{CF|nolink|short}}, and perhaps an AC-style take on Wikipedia's 'Village Pump'?  Either way, I think that something like "The Bulletin Board" would be more appropriate, as it's something that is found in every game and its function is very similar to that of the Community Fountain (collecting messages/promoting discussion). [[File:Sunmarshsignature.png|link=User:Sunmarsh]] '''<small><span style="font-variant:small-caps">([[User_talk:Sunmarsh|<span style="color:#7B7B7B">talk</span>]])</span></small>''' 23:45, September 30, 2021 (EDT)
 
 
 
:{{Support}} - My preference would be to remove the main Community Fountain page (which I agree isn't very useful), and then move this talk page (and the archives) over to the regular Nookipedia namespace (so this would become the 'new' Community Fountain, if that makes sense).
 
 
 
:You're probably now thinking "But if this isn't going to be a talk page anymore, we won't be able to add new sections." I think there is a way to get around that, though, but I can't remember what it is right now. You definitely see it on Wikipedia with their village pump, admin noticeboard etc.
 
 
 
:As for the name, I think Community Fountain is fine, but I wouldn't be opposed to changing it to something related to New Horizons. I don't think "The Bulletin Board" is a good idea; it might be confused with our old Bulletin Board forums. I have thought of "Community Plaza" or "Resident Services" as alternatives (although this page isn't really a service). [[User:Drago|<span style="font-family:Coustard;color:green">Drago</span>]] [[User talk:Drago|<span style="font-family:Coustard;color:purple">(talk)</span>]]    [[File:Drago PC Villager Icon.png|20px]] 10:40, October 1, 2021 (EDT)
 
 
 
::To make sure I'm understanding correctly, you're suggesting we move the content from Nookipedia talk:Community Fountain to Nookipedia:Community Fountain and delete the current content at Nookipedia:Community Fountain?
 
 
 
::Not to put down the forums, but... I think you're giving their name recognition a bit too much credit, lol. Also I think it's a nice homage/call back to them. To be 100% honest... I was thinking to myself as I typed up the post "Wasn't there a Bulletin Boards site or forum or something? ...where am I remembering that from?" It's embarrassing to say I didn't remember that it used to be our own forum lol.
 
 
 
::I agree that it would be nice to change the name to relate to the most recent game, and I think The Town Tree would have been a good pick for ACNL, but I don't think that ACNH has many good options. Resident Services doesn't really make sense. Maybe The Roost? Would certainly capitalize on the hype, but I don't know if ACNH will become known for that (perhaps it's already infamous...). [[File:Sunmarshsignature.png|link=User:Sunmarsh]] '''<small><span style="font-variant:small-caps">([[User_talk:Sunmarsh|<span style="color:#7B7B7B">talk</span>]])</span></small>''' 19:58, October 1, 2021 (EDT)
 
 
 
:::At this point, following the latest Direct, I would support renaming this to "The Roost". [[User:Drago|<span style="font-family:Coustard;color:green">Drago</span>]] [[User talk:Drago|<span style="font-family:Coustard;color:purple">(talk)</span>]]    [[File:Drago PC Villager Icon.png|20px]] 10:49, October 18, 2021 (EDT)
 
 
 
:{{Support}} - Per everyone. --[[User:Dr. Peach|Dr. Peach]] ([[User talk:Dr. Peach|talk]]) 15:04, October 1, 2021 (EDT)
 
 
 
:{{Support}} per above. Also, I actually quite like the suggestion of renaming this space to "The Roost". The name also has the added bonus of being a consistent location throughout the series, so we wouldn't have to rebrand for each era of the series in future. :p --[[File:Shark HHD Icon.png|20px]] [[User:Dorsal Axe|<span style="color:#0B3E57; font-family: Coustard">Dorsal Axe</span>]] <span style="font-family: Coustard"><small>([[User talk:Dorsal Axe|talk]])</small></span> 12:21, October 15, 2021 (EDT)
 
 
 
:{{Support}} per the above. '''~'''&nbsp;[[User:AlexBot2004|<span style="font-family:Coustard;color:#1C662A">'''AlexBot2004'''</span>]]&nbsp;([[User talk:AlexBot2004|<span style="font-family:Coustard;color:black">Talk</span>]]) 00:20, October 20, 2021 (EDT)
 
 
 
===Rename Community Fountain to 'The Roost'===
 
Given that a few of us have now discussed above renaming this space to 'The Roost', I figure why not open a separate discussion about this to avoid the original proposal from veering too far off-track.
 
 
 
Personally I {{Support}} this name suggestion. --[[File:Shark HHD Icon.png|20px]] [[User:Dorsal Axe|<span style="color:#0B3E57; font-family: Coustard">Dorsal Axe</span>]] <span style="font-family: Coustard"><small>([[User talk:Dorsal Axe|talk]])</small></span> 15:32, October 18, 2021 (EDT)
 
 
 
{{Support}} per my comments above. [[User:Drago|<span style="font-family:Coustard;color:green">Drago</span>]] [[User talk:Drago|<span style="font-family:Coustard;color:purple">(talk)</span>]]    [[File:Drago PC Villager Icon.png|20px]] 11:10, October 19, 2021 (EDT)
 
 
 
{{Support}} per DorsalAxe's rationale in above section. --<span class="jake-signature">[[User:Jake|<span class="jake-signature-name" style="font-family:Coustard,Verdana; color:#f73422; text-shadow: #e0e0e0 1px 1px 0;">Jake</span>]] [[User_talk:Jake|<span class="jake-signature-talk" style="font-family:Coustard,Verdana; color:#f75b22; text-shadow: #e0e0e0 1px 1px 0;">(talk)</span>]]</span> 11:20, October 19, 2021 (EDT)
 
 
 
{{Support}} per DorsalAxe's comments in the above section. [[User:Ruthless Cutie|<span style="color:#DA70D6;font-family:Zapfino;text-shadow:1px 1px #40E0D0">R</span><span style="color:#DA70D6; font-family:Sans Serif;font-weight:100;text-shadow:1px 1px #40E0D0">uthless</span> <span style="color:#DA70D6; font-family:Zapfino;text-shadow:1px 1px #40E0D0">C</span><span style="color:#DA70D6; font-family:Sans;font-weight:100;text-shadow:1px 1px #40E0D0">utie</span>]][[File:Lolly NH Villager Icon.png|20px|link=User:Ruthless Cutie]][[User Talk:Ruthless Cutie|<span style="font-size:15px;font-family:Verdana;font-variant:small-caps;color:#DB7093">(Say hello :])</span>]] 19:54, October 19, 2021 (EDT)
 
 
 
{{Support}} - Sounds good to me! Thanks for making this a proper section/suggestion. [[File:Sunmarshsignature.png|link=User:Sunmarsh]] '''<small><span style="font-variant:small-caps">([[User_talk:Sunmarsh|<span style="color:#7B7B7B">talk</span>]])</span></small>''' 21:05, October 19, 2021 (EDT)
 
 
 
{{Support}} per the above. '''~'''&nbsp;[[User:AlexBot2004|<span style="font-family:Coustard;color:#1C662A">'''AlexBot2004'''</span>]]&nbsp;([[User talk:AlexBot2004|<span style="font-family:Coustard;color:black">Talk</span>]]) 00:20, October 20, 2021 (EDT)
 
 
 
{{Support}} per above. -- [[User:PanchamBro|PanchamBro]] ([[User talk:PanchamBro|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/PanchamBro|contributions]]) 01:14, October 20, 2021 (EDT)
 
 
 
== Protection policy ==
 
{{Archive top|result=Successful proposal ('''5-0'''). [[User:Drago|<span style="font-family:Coustard;color:green">Drago</span>]] [[User talk:Drago|<span style="font-family:Coustard;color:purple">(talk)</span>]]    [[File:Drago PC Villager Icon.png|20px]] 12:58, October 12, 2021 (EDT)}}
 
I'd like to propose [[User:Dorsal Axe/Sandbox/Durian|this]] written by Dorsal Axe as our new Protection Policy. It looks pretty much complete and I already made a few suggestions that were implemented. Please list your support/opposition here, thanks! [[User:Drago|<span style="font-family:Coustard;color:green">Drago</span>]] [[User talk:Drago|<span style="font-family:Coustard;color:purple">(talk)</span>]]    [[File:Drago PC Villager Icon.png|20px]] 12:07, October 5, 2021 (EDT)
 
:{{Support}} - Looks great! Very thoughtfully done, thank you {{u|Dorsal Axe}} for the time/effort spent, and {{u|Drago}} for providing suggestions/feedback.{{)}} [[File:Sunmarshsignature.png|link=User:Sunmarsh]] '''<small><span style="font-variant:small-caps">([[User_talk:Sunmarsh|<span style="color:#7B7B7B">talk</span>]])</span></small>''' 13:43, October 5, 2021 (EDT)
 
:{{Support}} - Looks nice and great for a policy page. --[[User:Dr. Peach|Dr. Peach]] ([[User talk:Dr. Peach|talk]]) 13:07, October 6, 2021 (EDT)
 
:{{Support}} - Looks good to me. I will have to go over things more thoroughly prior to implementation to ensure everything is possible, but as it stands, this is a great improvement. --<span class="jake-signature">[[User:Jake|<span class="jake-signature-name" style="font-family:Coustard,Verdana; color:#f73422; text-shadow: #e0e0e0 1px 1px 0;">Jake</span>]] [[User_talk:Jake|<span class="jake-signature-talk" style="font-family:Coustard,Verdana; color:#f75b22; text-shadow: #e0e0e0 1px 1px 0;">(talk)</span>]]</span> 15:22, October 6, 2021 (EDT)
 
:{{Support}} per policy. -- [[User:PanchamBro|PanchamBro]] ([[User talk:PanchamBro|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/PanchamBro|contributions]]) 18:35, October 6, 2021 (EDT)
 
:{{Support}} - policy looks great and is very thorough. '''~'''&nbsp;[[User:AlexBot2004|<span style="font-family:Coustard;color:#1C662A">'''AlexBot2004'''</span>]]&nbsp;([[User talk:AlexBot2004|<span style="font-family:Coustard;color:black">Talk</span>]]) 15:20, October 9, 2021 (EDT)
 
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Specific tasks
  • Our villager pages could use house descriptions. At the top of villager house sections, add a description describing common themes and changes to the villager's house throughout the series. Examples available on Eunice and Alfonso.
  • Add "Appearance" sections to our New Horizons wallpaper and floor pages to describe what they look like. Example at Underwater Wall. Screenshots of all walls and floors located here and here, respectively.
  • Restructure and populate our fossil pages with info for Animal Crossing, Wild World, City Folk, and New Leaf using our new fossil info templates. Our New Horizons info is already complete - see Brachiosaurus for an example for how to replicate.
  • Work on our Pocket Camp coverage; visit Project Pocket Camp for more info. Coverage needed includes Gyroidite Scavenger Events, fortune cookie sets, Happy Homeroom puzzles, and memories.
  • Our merchandise coverage needs lots of expansion! Help expand our existing lists and create new ones using the {{MerchSeries}} and {{MerchCell}} templates.
  • Add "Characteristics" sections to our special character pages. See Redd#Characteristics for an example.
  • Write a synopsis for Pocket Camp memories. Be sure to remove the {{Stub}} template from the Synopsis section when completed in order to remove the article from this list.
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Project Clean-Up is dedicated cleaning up unused files, redirects, unused or uncategorized categories/templates, and miscellaneous other formatting. In addition, it seeks to have the To-do list cleared of a majority to all of its entries.
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Project Database

Leader: SuperHamster
Project Database aims to generate a Nookipedia database that contains factual information on all aspects of the Animal Crossing Series.
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Project Images

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Project Images involves categorizing every image based on game, character, and content, replacing outdated/poor quality images, uploading requested images and renaming images to be more concise.
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Project Interface

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Project Interface works to develop Nookipedia's interface and templates across all devices.
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Project Museum covers fish, insects, sea creatures, paintings, fossils, and constellations. Over 150 articles and counting!
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Project Music

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Project Music lists and provides a sample of all the music in the Animal Crossing series.
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Example topic[edit]

Post new topics below! Drago (talk) Drago PC Villager Icon.png 11:03, January 1, 2019 (EST)

Non-English names as redirects/disambiguation pages[edit]

So I have been thinking of an idea that could potentially benefit any of our non-English native readers (who may be more familiar with the non-English names of certain villagers/characters), and my idea is to take all of the villager/character names that were never used in English localizations and turn them into redirects. For example, the name "Xavier" is exclusive to the French version of Animal Crossing, being the name used for Pigleg, so if a French reader wants to look for "Xavier" on this Wiki, a redirect might help.

For the names that have been used by multiple characters, those should be disambiguation pages. For instance, the name "Pablo" was used for three different villagers, all in different languages: Chico in German, Claude in Spanish, and Otis in Italian. It should look something like this:

Pablo may refer to three villagers in the Animal Crossing series:
*The German name of Chico, a mouse villager.
*The Spanish name of Claude, a rabbit villager.
*The Italian name of Otis, a bird villager

The only concern I have is if the German-exclusive names should be turned into redirect/disamb pages since we already have an affiliated German Wiki that mainly covers the German localization stuff, but other than that, I don't see any problem with this.

Any objections to this idea? Snapping Turtle NH Icon.pngThe Jacketed TerrapinSoft-Shelled Turtle NH Icon.png 05:40, August 2, 2022 (EDT)

Support Support This sounds like a nice idea. Also although the German wiki exists, German visitors may still visit Nookipedia and search for a villager via the search bar out of curiosity, so it would still be good to have German redirect/disambiguation pages. HylianAngel (talk) 20:47, August 2, 2022 (EDT)
Support Support per the above. ~ AlexBot2004 (Talk) 20:33, November 18, 2022 (EST)
Support Support per discussion. -- PanchamBro (talkcontributions) 18:25, December 24, 2022 (EST)
Support Support per everyone. 💜Toadalind💜 (talk) 16:09, April 12, 2023 (EDT)
Support Support Good idea!BrikyEmotion Greetings NH Icon.png 16:42, January 6, 2024 (EST)

Hong Kong or Taiwan[edit]

Generally speaking, when considering our usage of Chinese character, we usually denote it with the flag of the People's Republic of China for Simplified Chinese, and the flag of Hong Kong for Traditional Chinese. I'd like to know though, why are we specifying Hong Kong as the representative for Traditional Chinese? Why not the flag of Taiwan, a country that has more population than Hong Kong and therefore has more users of Traditional Chinese? -- PanchamBro (talkcontributions) 02:20, November 25, 2022 (EST)

I asked my Chinese friend if it made sense to change the Traditional Chinese flag from the Hong Kong flag to the Taiwanese flag based on population. To rephrase what she stated more gently, she basically said it is very nonsensical to base it on population, and it would be as similarly nonsensical, as say, using California as a basis for the entirety of the United States simply because California has the largest population. She says the flag would also have an impact on the romanization of the Traditional Chinese names, as the dialect in Hong Kong is primarily Cantonese, unlike Taiwan. (More to say on this subject in Nookipedia talk:The Roost#New Project: Project Languages.) HylianAngel (talk) 16:13, February 17, 2023 (EST)

Notice regarding the capitalization proposal[edit]

With five votes in support of the changes in our capitalization policy in Nookipedia:Proposals, the majority of users here support using the in-game names of items throughout the Animal Crossing series. As we're nearing close to the end of the capitalization policy change proposal though, I'd like each and every one of you to refrain from moving or changing the names of each item except only outside of the Item namespace. (e.g. fixing the item names found in the {{I}} template)

I plan to automatically move the item pages and rename the items once the policy changes are set in place, and I don't need problems down the road. So far though, I need to troubleshoot some issues with my pywikibot installation before running the process, as I do not want the process to be disrupted by CSRF token issues. I hope everyone can understand. -- PanchamBro (talkcontributions) 22:32, November 25, 2022 (EST)

HHP Archipelago Name change[edit]

I feel like the Archipelago is not the best of names, as I was confused when I saw the name. The name should be changed to something like: Paradise Planning Archipelago. Sylveon from Pokemon 03:51, December 23, 2022 (EST)

Generally speaking, we follow the in-game names for our articles and such, only marking some as conjectural if no official name is found, or marking which names are translations from Japanese. In the case of archipelago, there are no instances that it is named "Paradise Planning Archipelago", nor should it be named in such a way to distinguish as there are no other archipelagos in the Animal Crossing series. It's a confusing name, yes, but it's more official and present in-game. -- PanchamBro (talkcontributions) 11:53, December 23, 2022 (EST)
What about Harv's Island? He himself says "but isnt it an achipelago? a harvipelago?" Thanks, --SunsetBay (Talk) Margie NL Villager Icon.png 07:25, October 1, 2023 (EDT)

Add internal name and ID regarding item[edit]

There's support to add the internal name/ID of items to the item pages. -- PanchamBro (talkcontributions) 10:44, February 29, 2024 (EST)
The following discussion is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page.

Something that has been on my mind lately was adding internal name and ID regarding a particular item. For instance, the tulip table in Animal Crossing has the filename sum_poptable01 and the internal ID 126C. I believe having information on the item pages would be useful for dataminers, modders, and such if they wanted to inspect information regarding a particular item instead of having to waddle through loads of spreadsheet information. -- PanchamBro (talkcontributions) 09:26, January 29, 2023 (EST)

Support Support for the reasons you've given. --BladeofEvilsBane (talk) 10:36, January 29, 2023 (EST)
Support Support ~ AlexBot2004 (Talk) 14:58, January 29, 2023 (EST)
Support Support BrikyEmotion Greetings NH Icon.png 15:34, January 6, 2024 (EST)

The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page.

The animal emoji redirects[edit]

There doesn't seem to be a high demand to save the animals. The animal redirects shall be deleted. HylianAngel (talk) 20:43, February 16, 2023 (EST)
The following discussion is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page.

Right now there are some emoji redirects involving the species pages. Currently these redirects exist: 🐂 🐊 🐒 🐕 🐦 🐵 🐶 🐺 🐻 🦍 They are kind of peculiar, and I can't really gauge if these would necessarily be useful. They're so silly that I wouldn't even mind keeping them. I had to do a double-take when I checked Wikipedia, and they actually utilize emoji redirects, so it seems like they potentially serve some sort of usefulness. But either way, we should either:

a. Complete the collection and create more redirects involving the remaining missing animal emojis from the species pages
b. Delete the existing animal emoji redirects.

What do you think? HylianAngel (talk) 02:28, February 6, 2023 (EST)

Very much against the use of animal emoji redirects. I just do not think they are reasonably used or feasibly searched. Trig - 02:07, February 10, 2023 (EST)

The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page.

New Project: Project Languages[edit]

I think we should start a project where we fill up the boxes with "unknown" in on templates. --Sylveon (Autistic and proud!)🍉🌺 08:53, February 17, 2023 (EST)

Currently, the major missing romanization on all articles, especially villager articles, is Traditional Chinese, as it was made a separate entry from Simplified Chinese. For Japanese, Korean, and Simplified Chinese (the mainland language of China), you can pretty much use Google Translate to obtain an acceptable romanization of the name. However, Traditional Chinese is a slightly more complicated subject to tackle.
I asked my Chinese friend if this Traditional Chinese romanization of Marina's name was correct, because it was so different from the Simplified Chinese romanization. Zhānglìnà vs. Jēung Laahp Nóh is crazy different, to me as an English-speaking person. But no, she mulled it for a few seconds and said, yep, the Traditional Chinese romanization in this situation is correct. Nookipedia is using the Hong Kong flag, which implies the dialect is Cantonese. I asked her to ignore the flag, and she said you can't do that, the flag matters. I told her that most other wikis, like Bulbapedia and WiKirby don't use flags, and they usually have it simply stated as "Simplified Chinese" and "Traditional Chinese" in written text without flags, and that they tend to make both of those romanizations identical. She said that's the wrong way to approach it, since you're basically erasing an entire dialect from existence by making the romanizations identical. I asked her, would it make sense to make the Traditional and Simplified Chinese romanizations the same if the flag was not there at all, and she said, yes, some dialects of Traditional Chinese would have identical romanization as Simplified Chinese, but that is why the flag is so important in this scenario because the Hong Kong flag implies the Cantonese dialect, and you shouldn't make the romanizations the same if it's the Hong Kong flag.
She also explained that China has been attempting to erase Cantonese for some time in order to make Simplified Chinese the main language. Another unfortunate aspect is that we wouldn't even be able to obtain any Cantonese Traditional Chinese romanizations on Nookipedia without the help of a Cantonese-speaking person, because Google Translate spits out identical romanizations for Simplified and Traditional Chinese anyways. So we have a major problem where the Hong Kong flag would be misleading if we were to copy-paste the Simplified Chinese romanizations to be the same as the Traditional Chinese romanizations, but if we were to decide to stick with Hong Kong/Cantonese, we probably will never have any Traditional Chinese romanizations ever, unless a Cantonese person decides to join and contribute for every page (and my Chinese friend does not know Cantonese). HylianAngel (talk) 16:13, February 17, 2023 (EST)
I may not know much about Cantonese at the moment, but I've been thinking about it considering that it has several romanizations that could be used here. I'm pretty sure Bulbapedia used Yale romanization for Cantonese, but on the other hand, there's also Jyutping romanization. If we can get some pointers on which of these romanizations should be used here, it would be a good start. Not to mention, the example of Marina earlier on seems to be using Yale's. Starry Windy 23:05, November 29, 2023 (EST)

Villager Quotes[edit]

Hi! I am new to being an editor, but recently I noticed Nookipedia doesn't do individual quotes for villagers, something the Animal Crossing Wiki does do. I've been adding quotes for a few villagers, but not too many. I wanted to garner some support before I continue to do more. I know most quotes are similar within personality, but there are some, like picture quotes, that are individual to certain villagers. I think this could be really cool to do for every villager, because the rest of the villager page isn't very personalized at all. Plus, sometimes, people only need the page to look for the picture quote, and putting it at the top of the page could be useful. I think it would be fun for the editors, and readers, to mix it up a little. So, community, do you have an opinion? Should I keep going? Omigpine11 (talk) 17:59, March 11, 2023 (EST)Omigpine11

Although photo quotes are "unique dialogue" involving the villager, I feel it is not needed to include it at the top of the page, since this info is available within the infobox ("favorite saying"), which is very close to the top of the page already. If a reader only needs the photo quote, they already have easy access. These quotes are also located on the Photo page. I personally Oppose Oppose adding photo quotes to the top of villager pages. However, I Support Support adding quotes on villager pages in cases where it is in-game dialogue completely exclusive to the villager. These cases are rare, but some cases do occur in New Horizons involving very specific species-personality combos (where there is only 1 villager who is that species-personality, like Wendy the peppy sheep, on Year of the Sheep). While it's not really from the game, I agree with the Alfonso quote you added from the official NH website, since it is indeed completely unique. HylianAngel (talk) 18:25, March 11, 2023 (EST)
Actually HylianAngel, the top quote on Alfonso's page is a quote lazy villagers say in New Horizons, just that "This place" is replaced with whatever you named your island. Just a warning that the source I am about to provide does contain some very crude language, but it's the only proof I was able to find of the quote being used in-game, so please bear with me on this one (quote is on the 4th pic): https://imgflip.com/i/43nbpn
That being said, I don't really mind it being Alfonso's top quote since the website does make that association. Snapping Turtle NH Icon.pngThe Jacketed TerrapinSoft-Shelled Turtle NH Icon.png 18:31, March 11, 2023 (EST)
Thanks, I should have worded it more clearly that it's a unique association. I did remember the dialogue from playing NH, so saying "completely unique" was not entirely correct when I was trying to convey my reasoning. HylianAngel (talk) 18:34, March 11, 2023 (EST)
I wanted to mention that I went ahead and added the unique dialogue involving New Year's Day for unique species-personality combos to the "Trivia" sections of the involved pages, but only for bulls/cows (2021), tigers (2022), and rabbits (2023). So this would be Coach, Norma, Patty, Rolf, Claudia, Gaston, Coco, and Mira.
I didn't add the dialogue for future years yet, which would be horses (2026), sheep (2027), monkeys (2028), birds (2029), dogs (2030), pigs (2031), and mice (2032). Actually, from reading the dialogue files, it's unclear if Year of the Rooster (2029) will apply to all bird-related species (birds, ducks, eagles, ostriches, penguins, and chickens), a subset of these bird species, or just chickens themselves. The dialogue specifically says "Year of the Bird," or "Year of the Rooster," depending on the personality type of the speaking villager, but mostly these dialogues state "Year of the Bird." Unless someone time travels to 2029 and checks each species, or unless a dataminer could examine the code, it probably won't be known. Anyways, I felt it would make sense to just add the dialogue for 2021-2023 and not the future years yet. However, I wouldn't be against adding the future years either. HylianAngel (talk) 07:14, March 12, 2023 (EDT)

Villager catchphrases[edit]

I strongly believe that villager pages should have a dedicated section to their catchphrases in each language, in the same style as their given name in the "Names in other languages" section. Currently there is not a good place to describe the meaning of a villager's foreign catchphrases, so there are cases where the Japanese catchphrase holds some relevance to the character, but since there is no decent section to place it, it is instead placed at the top of the page, where it sits next to any relevant English given name and English catchphrase origin information. That location is somewhat awkward, since it's inconsistent to have the English given name, the English catchphrase, no Japanese given name (since Japanese name info is generally placed in the "Names in other languages" section), and then the Japanese catchphrase.

If there was a dedicated section for catchphrases in other languages, it would not only allow describing any Japanese catchphrase relevance, but also the relevance of catchphrases of every other language as well, and there is currently no location to place non-English or non-Japanese catchphrase relevancy information. Basic "names in other languages" and "catchphrases in other languages" data exists in the infobox, and yet only the "names in other languages" is duplicated at the bottom of the page. I believe both should be at the bottom of the page.

While the main article header would be "Names in other languages," there are 2 different formatting styles that could be implemented:

  • The sub-headers are the words "Given name" and "Catchphrase."
    • Optionally and additionally, in combination with this style so that the name and catchphrase are extremely explicit, a parameter for the English name can be included, like how Fire Emblem Wiki does it (example here). While it might be currently redundant with the English information included in the intro prose, I think it's fine for there to be redundant information, as many villager pages already do repeat redundant information (like the infobox repeating the foreign names information), and it can serve a very useful utility purpose if intros are ever repurposed to no longer include English name/catchphrase origins. Plus, it would allow for future "favorite sayings" English explanations, which no intros do unless it's related to the character's identity/species somehow, but I feel this would be good information to include no matter what.
  • The sub-headers are the character's actual name and catchphrase, like for example Sherb, the sub-headers would be "Sherb" and "bawwww."

I'm also open to other suggestions for the formatting style. I'm slightly partial to the first style, just because there might be a case where "favorite sayings" are also given their own dedicated section in the future, and the full saying might be weird as a header. What formatting do you think would be best? HylianAngel (talk) 14:50, April 4, 2023 (EDT), edited again on 16:11, April 22, 2023 (EDT)

I caught the spirit!![edit]

I caught farley!! ~SylveonSig.png 08:51, April 11, 2023 (EDT)

Trig Jegman's File Template[edit]

As I am sure you have seen, I've been working on the creation and generation of my file module for Nookipedia. The time is now to suggest that it is used instead of the existing Template:File Info.

First, to be explicitly clear, this module would work the same as a template to the degree that I have made sure everything will retroactively work on it. Nothing would break by the implementation of the module.

Second: My module is a lot beefier than the existing template is now. Here's the main takeaways:

  • Combined licensing. No more need for having 33 different licensing templates, when the module will take care of all of them collectively.
  • More maintenance parameters and a closer analysis of sourcing. There are several maintenance features included, such as files taken from FANDOM sources or YouTube.
  • Predesignated sources for when the user captures an image themself.
  • Automatic categorization. This is the big one: Through the introduction of two new parameters (game and type), files will now automatically be categorized into their appropriate categories, making widescale changes easier and formatting more consistent.
  • This is an excellent opportunity to look at all of the files on site and reduce duplicates, fix naming, improve quality, and get specific sources amongst other tasks.

I wouldn't propose this if I didn't have great success in implementing this before. I have completely added this style of template to every single file on WiKirby, Wars Wiki, Inkipedia, MiiWiki, The Cycle: Frontier, as well as partial completion on Mystery Dungeon Francise Wiki, FamiWiki, and StrategyWiki. I've done it before and I'm more than happy to do it again to get this implemented. I really think that having this upgrade is a valuable resource and helps create consistency both on this site and in conjunction with other wikis as well. I have a few examples of use cases here to understand what it might look like. The new parameters are the following:

  • Game — Allows an automatic link to a game, and can work to add automatic categories.
  • Type/Meta — These two pull from a determined list of common types (such as Artwork, Screenshots, Amiibo, or User Files) in order to automatically categorize files. The difference between type and meta is that type will categorize based off the game entry (New Leaf sprites), meta will only do off the type (Sprites).
  • User — Used for user files or when attributing the source to someone else.
  • Author — At the suggestion/request of Shams, useful for creative commons files.
  • License — All those licensing templates are here now
  • Fandom/Youtube — By setting these to yes, it places files taken from these less than desirable locations into a maintenance category for replacement.

I'm happy to make more examples, or give breakdowns of how I would go about fixing these, or answer any questions about it. Please let me know how you feel about implementing it on Nookipedia as well! Trig - 13:22, June 28, 2023 (EDT)

Support Support - Everything here looks great! The combined licensing and automatic categorization are especially welcome additions; I can't think of anything at the moment that I'd add or change. ~ AlexBot2004 (Talk) 01:08, July 6, 2023 (EDT)
Support Support I think this could work. I do believe though that if we agree on this more, we should set up a proposal to implement. -- PanchamBro (talkcontributions) 16:41, September 5, 2023 (EDT)

New Horizons villager box item capitalization[edit]

PanchamBro's bot fixed the capitalization of New Horizons items on almost all villager pages, but since Jacob/Jakey and Spork/Crackle have 2 different names, I think the bot skipped over those two. Making a note here that it needs to eventually be fixed, don't have time to fix it myself at the moment. HylianAngel (talk) 15:51, July 29, 2023 (EDT)

This should be fixed now! -- PanchamBro (talkcontributions) 01:05, August 2, 2023 (EDT)
Thank you! HylianAngel (talk) 20:51, August 4, 2023 (EDT)

wanna join my club???[edit]

it is called bob fan club - unsigned comment from FroggyPotter (talkcontribs)

Sure. Thanks, --SunsetBay (Talk) Margie NL Villager Icon.png 05:31, September 5, 2023 (EDT)

Help with Cargo Tables[edit]

Are there any resources to help figure out how they work? If not can some please explain them to me? TheMajesticPineapple (talk) 22:56, August 24, 2023 (EDT)

Here are a couple of resources:
My personal understanding of it is that the gist of it is that you'll have a template for a type of page with a bunch of input fields. In the template you say that inputs in those fields get stored in a big behind-the-scenes table. You can then create a cargo query table to list specific stuff from that big table on any page you want. For better understanding the template side of things it helps to look at templates that use cargo, and for cargo query tables it helps to look at and compare different pages that use different cargo queries. Hope this helps a bit! Bassieeee (talk) 07:19, August 25, 2023 (EDT)
Thank you so much, I couldn't find anything on them anywhere.
TheMajesticPineapple (talk) 09:30, August 25, 2023 (EDT)
Nookipedia:Project Database has some good information on cargo tables, and we have a channel for discussing cargo tables on our Discord server. --BladeofEvilsBane (talk) 19:00, August 26, 2023 (EDT)

Ideas.[edit]

1. Project Trivia. A project focused on trivia. I would be happy to lead this project. 2. An Animal Crossing Debate Club. Thanks, --SunsetBay (Talk) Margie NL Villager Icon.png 14:29, September 5, 2023 (EDT)

Going to lean with the former not being necessary. Trivia as a whole is not an inherent requirement for pages to have, and in many instances (broadly across all wikis, not exclusively here), people get really obsessed with adding trivia points that would much better be served in main article sections like descriptions or are so vague or stretches that they aren't inherently useful—I'd be concerned a project like that would encourage something like that. If the project was to perhaps update and consolidate or re-integrate trivia, I would be more on board.
The idea of a debate club is cool, but it's not really what a wiki is for. Furthermore, the format of a wiki isn't terribly constructive for a rapid-fire debate club style of writing/conversation. I would suggest joining an Animal Crossing discord (or making your own) for something like this.
These are just my opinions on the matter, hope it helps. Trig - 02:28, September 28, 2023 (EDT)
OK, Thanks, --SunsetBay (Talk) Margie NL Villager Icon.png 07:23, October 1, 2023 (EDT)

Discussing our proposal system[edit]

I'm starting to think non-Trustees shouldn't make proposals here. While so far we only had FroggyPotter's recent proposal asking for "one staff to be active at all time", I get this feeling that users not acquainted with policy-making will go to the proposal system for something that isn't a change affecting "a large number of pages or users".

What do you think? Should we limit the creation of proposal to only Trustees or not? -- PanchamBro (talkcontributions) 16:32, September 5, 2023 (EDT)

  • Comment Comment I probably wouldn't support going that far; I think everyone should have a chance to submit their ideas as a proposal. We could limit to autoconfirmed, but that wouldn't help much.
I do, however, think there should be an ability for admins to veto proposals that are clearly unnecessary or relate to how the staff operate, like there is on MarioWiki. FroggyPotter's proposal would fall into the latter category. Drago (talk) Drago PC Villager Icon.png 10:46, September 6, 2023 (EDT)
  • I dig an ability to veto a proposal that is unnecessary or is in regards to staff and all. -- PanchamBro (talkcontributions) 16:32, September 7, 2023 (EDT)
  • When overhauling Inkipedia's proposal system recently, we introduced a veto that would require three administrators to veto a proposal in a publicly listed third vote in order to shut things down. Not saying this is better or worse than the above listed, just that it is another option. Trig - 02:28, September 28, 2023 (EDT)
  • Comment Comment Agree with Drago on both points. Chubby Bub (talk) 21:00, September 6, 2023 (EDT)

Translating the wiki[edit]

I would like to translate the wiki to Italian. Does anyone know if I have to get permission or if there's a way to add new languages to pages? Edit: I see both the Spanish and German version have gone separate ways but I was aiming to just add something to Nookipedia itself. FUGOSHROOM (talk) 15:20, October 14, 2023 (EDT)FUGOSHROOM

Delete single-character species pages[edit]

There are currently 18 species pages for species that only contain a single character. All of them are no longer than one or two sentences, usually just describing what the character does or what they look like, which is already covered on that character's own article. Therefore, I propose that these pages be redirected to their respective characters' pages. The following pages would be affected by this:

~ AlexBot2004 (Talk) 02:26, December 21, 2023 (EST)

Comment Comment For the most part, I don't have any attachment to the single-special-character species pages, though it would be a loss for the fox, gray langur, peacock, and reindeer pages specifically, since those happen to have additional information involving related villagers that are depicted to be the same as those species, in appearance only (e.g. Audie and Chief on the fox page). Though that's not to say it means we should keep these species pages, because it's not like there's pages for every unique portrayal of an animal villager species (like zebra for Savannah, flamingo for Flora, etc.), just the villagers that coincidentally line up with special character species. Though I felt like it was worth noting for a fuller picture for the vote. HylianAngel (talk) 03:00, December 21, 2023 (EST)
Support Support I feel there isn't much point in giving a species a dedicated article if there's only one character of said species, cuz there really isn't much (if anything) the species page can cover that the character's article can't (lest we wanna fill 'em with a bunch of real-world info that has no relevancy to the character/series).
I also noticed that the axolotl page has an image of its real-life counterpart, with the only other species page with this distinction being raccoon. Admittedly I question the necessity of these images (mostly the raccoon dog pic, anyway), but I'll save that for different discussion, I just wanted to bring it up. Snapping Turtle NH Icon.pngThe Jacketed TerrapinSoft-Shelled Turtle NH Icon.png 14:00, December 21, 2023 (EST)
Comment Comment I feel that it would be a good cleanup, but yeah, as stated above, some pages show some details, like Julia resembling a Peacock or Deli looking like a gray tangur, although they are listed under different species. BrikyEmotion Greetings NH Icon.png 02:44, January 6, 2024 (EST)
Oppose Oppose While I get the reasons behind this, I think we shouldn't rule out the possibilities of new characters based on these species in case if future Animal Crossing games comes around. Case in point: New Horizons brought several new characters like C.J., Flick, Daisy Mae and Gullivarrr, which represents beaver, chameleon, boar and seagull respectively, which prior to New Horizons also have only one characters. If they didn't get introduced, these species pages might possibly be on jeopardy as well. There's also some trivia but notable mentions like from Erik and Julia which were easily found in these species pages. For these reasons, I have to disagree with this. Starry Windy 18:47, January 6, 2024 (EST)
If more characters in these species are introduced in later games, then we can recreate these pages then. But as it is now, these pages don't offer any information that isn't already on the character's page. I agree that it's worth noting the villagers who resemble some of these species, but that can be noted on that villager's page in the "Appearance" section. ~ AlexBot2004 (Talk) 18:55, January 6, 2024 (EST)
Comment Comment Could we not merge them all into a single page? --Shark HHD Icon.png Dorsal Axe (talk) 04:31, February 4, 2024 (EST)

Use screenshots instead of artwork on special character pages[edit]

Right now, on special character pages in the "Appearances" sections for each game, we generally have artwork of that character from that game. However, I think screenshots from that game would be much more useful to readers, both in showing how the character appears/works in each game, and to better illustrate what is being described in the prose. I think artwork doesn't really add much and is better suited for the character's gallery page. ~ AlexBot2004 (Talk) 16:44, December 25, 2023 (EST)

Support Support That's the most logical system for portraying the content and how it should consistently be everywhere. I think the only reason why it's not already like that is because of the lack of special character screenshots for each game in the series. Blanca and Katie in the older games would be especially difficult. HylianAngel (talk) 20:38, January 6, 2024 (EST)

Cantonese spelling[edit]

I'm not sure if it's alright to create a new section here because I've covered this on several threads before, but I think it would be a good time to discuss which kind of spelling that will be used on Cantonese romanizations. As described on previous threads, I'm not a Cantonese speaker, but I wanted the Cantonese spellings to be filled. The thing is, Cantonese has several known spellings which makes me not sure which one to put in.

You see, Yale romanization and Jyutping are two of the things that I considered. Yale seems to be used in a certain NIWA sites that I know of, like Bulbapedia, and some of the spellings here are Yale-esque. On other side, Jyutping is considered to be newer, and sites like Wiktionary seems to be fond of using it. I'll give some examples for comparison, but I'm taking cues from a certain pinyin converter, so I'm not 100% sure if it's accurate, but here goes:

Blathers (傅達)
Yale romanization: fuh daaht
Jyutping romanization: fu6 daat6

Brewster (老闆)
Yale romanization: lóuh báan
Jyutping romanization: lou5 baan2

Isabelle (西施惠)
Yale romanization: sāi sī waih
Jyutping romanization: sai1 si1 wai6

Now, I've been thinking three options. Option A is to have Yale romanization being used entirely, or Option B where Jyutping is used in all the pages. There's also Option C where Yale and Jyutping romanization being used side by side, even though I'm not sure if infoboxes would allow two of them. Or is there another way to do it? And what do you guys think? Please respond kindly, thanks. Starry Windy 11:15, January 3, 2024 (EST)

I'm down to changing how we do romanizations in general. A thing that bothers me is that there aren't many good sites out there that can get us accurate romanizations for Japanese, Korean, and Chinese (like any of them really). Definitely a goal to be made when Project Languages comes into fruition. -- PanchamBro (talkcontributions) 07:36, January 6, 2024 (EST)
Actually, I think Chinese romanizations are pretty much standardized. For Simplified Chinese, we often use Hanyu Pinyin which is widely used in Mainland China and Singapore according to Wikipedia, and is considered the international standard. And I'm pretty sure we've used this one in practically all articles that has it. Other notable romanizations include Gwoyeu Romatzyh which was used back then but rarely so nowadays, and also Wade-Giles and Yale.
Speaking of Yale, it has two kinds of romanizations, one for Mandarin and one for Cantonese. The latter apparently is still widely used, it's systematic in how things are spelled, which somehow almost mirrors Hanyu Pinyin in some ways. Apart from Yale, I also think of Jyutping as systematic spelling. And I haven't even get started on Cantonese Pinyin, which is a real deal as well. Things to note, the reason I'm not sure on how accurate the Cantonese romanizations are is simply because I didn't learn much on Cantonese yet. Starry Windy 08:45, January 6, 2024 (EST)
It's moreso the fact that it's harder to find sites that can auto-romanize them, but I do feel it's important to have someone experienced with that language to handle that romanization. -- PanchamBro (talkcontributions) 08:48, January 6, 2024 (EST)
Well, I do found one site for it. For the examples I gave above, I was taking reference from this site, and I find the spelling for Marina was a 100% match. It's from this site that I knew Bulbapedia used Yale spelling, too. Still, I also agreed that we need someone experienced on Cantonese, too. Starry Windy 08:55, January 6, 2024 (EST)

A new Project?[edit]

Idea: Project Languages! It would be centered around interwiki links and modifying the villagers' articles to make them more... accessible for those who don't speak English, such as links to the Spanish and German Animal Crossing wikis, and... More details in other languages than just the names, such as the photo quotes and catchphrases. You know, make the wiki more open to people who don't speak English. BrikyEmotion Greetings NH Icon.png 16:37, January 6, 2024 (EST)

I actually just looked at the top post here, so maybe we could combine this with that? And I also saw an idea that comes from 2021 on the Projects talk page: Something called "Project Linguistics". Well, if it's okay for the creator of the original idea, I think I've found the name for this project! BrikyEmotion Greetings NH Icon.png 16:43, January 6, 2024 (EST)

Possible Incorrect Genre for the Wild World Rubber Plant[edit]

Hi there! I've been playing Animal Crossing: Wild World quite a lot lately and had a villager that was into collecting Old-school furniture. The Rubber Plant was in Nook's store and is on the old-school list, so I grabbed it. When I gave the villager the rubber plant, he rejected it saying it's not old-school. He refused to take it when I tried again. I'm not sure which genre it's supposed to be corrected to though. (Sorry if I'm doing this the wrong way, I'm new!) MadRayne (talk) 16:21, January 8, 2024 (EST)

It looks like all the items in the House Plant Set had incorrect genres; they have all been corrected to Chic. All the genres are now taken directly from the game's files, so there shouldn't be any more errors. Thank you for pointing this out! ~ AlexBot2004 (Talk) 14:45, January 9, 2024 (EST)

Userbox question[edit]

Hiya im Ceariah im new to the wiki. Just a question how do you make a userbox? Ceariah (talk) 06:25, January 21, 2024 (EST)

You can go to the Userbox page to find some userboxes and a guide on how to use them. Have a good day and welcome to Nookipedia! Briky If you know how to make this link to my talk page, please tell me! 12:28, January 24, 2024 (EST)

i got a black rose by accident[edit]

woke up today to find a black rose, which surprised me because i don't even have a special red rose (i think), which you get by crossing a purple and an orange. i don't even have a purple rose anywhere in my town, only way i can see this happening is if theres another way to create a special red rose.

NL Unintended Black Rose.png

--Erick7477719 (talk) 10:42, February 28, 2024 (EST)

There is a chance that breeding red roses will give you a black rose. At least you got one! DriftveilBread (talk) 12:53, March 21, 2024 (EDT)

If I find vandalism, where should I report it?[edit]

Where do I report users? Acnh Player (talk) 23:55, March 24, 2024 (EDT)

Nookipedia:Staff noticeboard is the best place on-wiki. ~SuperHamster Talk Contribs 00:07, March 25, 2024 (EDT)