Talk:Festive Series

Split into Jingle Series

I think this page should be two pages, Festive Series and Jingle Series. I have four reasons why I think we should split this page:

1. The two series do not share a name (in English).
2. The furniture in the Festive Series do not look like the furniture in the Jingle series.
3. Series that look similar but have different names (I.e. Cool Series and Sleek Series) do not have the same page.
4. Other event-themed series which have similarly been renamed and redesigned have been given their own pages (I.e. Harvest Series and Turkey Day Series).

With these reasons I think it is logical to split this page. The only reason this may not be reasonable is the shared name in other languages, but I still think it should be split. —Moo🐮Moo🐄Meadows (talk) 20:01, March 15, 2022 (EDT)

 Oppose The Jingle Series and the Festive Series are not different furniture series. They are the same furniture series in Japan, the クリスマスシリーズ. The name change is exclusive to certain international countries, such as North America and Italy, but was kept the same in many other international countries, such as Korea, China, France, Quebec, Spain, and Germany.

Whenever it is clear that a furniture series/set/theme has had a re-translated name in North America (for example, the にわセット has had three different English names, including Zen Garden Set, Backyard Set, and Mossy Garden Set), each English name for the furniture set doesn't receive a different page, because it is clear that they are the same entity. They remain on the same page and a note is added about the older names. The English names shouldn't take priority; this isn't a perfect analogy, but Bliss and Caroline are not treated as two different villagers just because her English name was changed in Wild World.

The visual appearance change of the Jingle/Festive Series in New Horizons, along with the name change, can make it seem like it is an entirely different series. However, returning back to the original translation issue, it was only translated differently outside of Japan in certain countries, such as North America. The series has always been called the Christmas Series in Japan (and many other international countries) because the player typically obtains the series during Christmas/winter time. For comparison, no items from the Spooky Series in Animal Crossing, City Folk, or New Leaf make a return to the Spooky Series in New Horizons, other than the "Spooky Wall," which looks nothing like its earlier incarnation. But it is still the same furniture series, it just happens to retain its original name in both Japan and North America. The series can have its items change and still be the same series. I think the original Japanese name is highly important to keep in mind as a type of canon.

The Harvest Series and Turkey Day Series is a poor counterpoint because the name is different in all languages. HylianAngel (talk) 20:08, March 15, 2022 (EDT)

Just wanted to mention, according to the City Folk spreadsheet, this is actually called the Festive Series. This means that the series has gone back and forth between Jingle Series and Festive Series (Jingle PG -> Festive CF -> Jingle NL -> Festive NH). I think the most recent name should be on the page. HylianAngel (talk) 20:05, April 2, 2022 (EDT)