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:Correct me if I'm wrong, but Bee and Wasp are different in ACNH. Sometimes there are honeybees around flowers that DO NOT sting you and there are wasps, from the beehives in trees, that WILL sting you. These two insects are completely different and can be given to Blathers in the Museum two different times- once for the honeybee and once for the wasp. Their names should be changed.
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:Correct me if I'm wrong, but Bee and Wasp are different in ACNH. Sometimes there are honeybees around flowers that DO NOT sting you and there are wasps, from the beehives in trees, that WILL sting you. These two insects are completely different and can be given to Blathers in the Museum two different times- once for the honeybee and once for the wasp. Their names should be changed. <small>- ''unsigned comment from [[User:100.8.113.120|100.8.113.120]] ([[User talk:100.8.113.120|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/100.8.113.120|contribs]]) ''</small> -Zip, 4:23 PM 05-21-20
-Zip, 4:23 PM 05-21-20
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::Honeybee and Wasps are indeed different, and always has been - this discussion doesn't involve honeybees at all. In previous games, the functional equivalent of the [[Wasp]] was called the [[Bee]]. This discussion is about whether or not the two articles should be merged. The [[Honeybee]] has been around since Wild World, and has its own article that will not be changing. <b>~<i>[[User:SuperHamster|<span style="color:#07517C;">Super</span>]]</i>[[User:SuperHamster|<span style="color:#6FA23B;">Hamster</span>]]</b> <small>[[User talk:SuperHamster|Talk]]</small> 18:11, May 21, 2020 (EDT)
  
 
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Merging with [Bee]

Strong disagree that this should be merged with Bee as the infoboxes (scientific names) are not the same. Although they served similar functions across the Animal Crossing series and wasp and bee stings are both colloquially called 'bee stings' (atleast in my region) they are not the same. To me, this feels like it's a clear choice Nintendo made. Bees have gotten a ton of good PR lately with their populations declining and folks realizing the positives they bring to ecosystems rather than focusing on the stinging (that also comes from Wasps!)

Liana (talk) 00:56, March 25, 2020 (EDT)

So has the Japanese name changed? If it has, they shouldn't be merged. If not, they're still the same bug. I think NoA changing how they've chosen to localize a bug name doesn't make it a new bug. The scientific name is something an editor grabs from somewhere on the internet, not from the game itself, so that's arguably irrelevant. I think the pages should be merged (if the name hasn't changed in Japan), but keep the title as "Wasp" and have "Bee" redirect and have a message in the description that says before New Horizons this bug was called "Bee" or something like that. --Death2cupbots (talk) 14:42, March 25, 2020 (EDT)
From what I understand the Japanese name has not changed, and this is just a new translation. I haven't seen any confirmation of this myself, this is just what I read on Discord from another editor. Sunmarshsignature.png (talk) 14:46, March 25, 2020 (EDT)
Originally I was inclined to merge, but I started looking into it. Disclaimer: I'm out of my wheelhouse with Japanese, so someone correct me if I'm wrong.
From what I can gather, the word used in the Japanese version of the game (ハチ) is a generic term that encompasses bees, wasps, hornets, etc. The word for an actual bee is ハナバチ, and the word for hornets/wasps is スズメバチ. So the lack of a name change doesn't really indicate much since they could be describing either. Taking into account the descriptions Blather provides in the game (with NH's description being the first to clearly describe a wasp when he calls it a meat-eating predator), and that the Critterpedia image in the game has changed from a bee to a wasp, I'm inclined to say we don't merge. ~SuperHamster Talk 05:24, March 29, 2020 (EDT)


Correct me if I'm wrong, but Bee and Wasp are different in ACNH. Sometimes there are honeybees around flowers that DO NOT sting you and there are wasps, from the beehives in trees, that WILL sting you. These two insects are completely different and can be given to Blathers in the Museum two different times- once for the honeybee and once for the wasp. Their names should be changed. - unsigned comment from 100.8.113.120 (talkcontribs) -Zip, 4:23 PM 05-21-20
Honeybee and Wasps are indeed different, and always has been - this discussion doesn't involve honeybees at all. In previous games, the functional equivalent of the Wasp was called the Bee. This discussion is about whether or not the two articles should be merged. The Honeybee has been around since Wild World, and has its own article that will not be changing. ~SuperHamster Talk 18:11, May 21, 2020 (EDT)