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| | :These changes sound good to me! The lists could do with an overhaul to TableHeader in particular. [[User:Drago|<span style="font-family:Coustard;color:green">Drago</span>]] [[User talk:Drago|<span style="font-family:Coustard;color:purple">(talk)</span>]] [[File:Drago PC Villager Icon.png|20px]] 10:50, December 28, 2018 (EST) | | :These changes sound good to me! The lists could do with an overhaul to TableHeader in particular. [[User:Drago|<span style="font-family:Coustard;color:green">Drago</span>]] [[User talk:Drago|<span style="font-family:Coustard;color:purple">(talk)</span>]] [[File:Drago PC Villager Icon.png|20px]] 10:50, December 28, 2018 (EST) |
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| − | == Split regarding each family of gyroid ==
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| − | I'm proposing a move for each family of gyroid to their own pages. While each bug, fish and sea creature have had pages of their own for awhile, the new addition of item pages has allowed for greater integration between pages, like hyperlinking the aforementioned items in a villager's house template area. However, in the prior example, every gyroid links to the overall page, creating more searching than necessary. This page should remain, but to what extent should be determined. {{User:Lampshade59276/sig}} 18:41, January 16, 2021 (EST)
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| − | :{{Support}} - I would even go further and suggest that every gyroid get its own page. It's an item just like any other, so I don't see why each gyroid shouldn't have one. Although one might make the case that the differences among family members are minimal and are similar to the color or pattern customization options in {{NH|short}}. As for families, I also think that their creation could be useful, as it allows comparison of the gyroids in the family across the different games in the series (and makes this page much shorter). Maybe they could be located at Gyroid/Family name? [[File:Sunmarshsignature.png|link=User:Sunmarsh]] '''<small><span style="font-variant:small-caps">([[User_talk:Sunmarsh|<span style="color:#7B7B7B">talk</span>]])</span></small>''' 17:06, January 17, 2021 (EST)
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| − | :I would {{Support}} splitting each family into their own page. As for how to go about that, I think we should handle these like the fossil pages, with one page for the family that has info templates for each member in each game (e.g. {{T|PGFossilInfo}} and {{T|FossilContainer}}; this also allows the data to be stored in Cargo), rather than having item pages for each Gyroid. Since Gyroids have less unique factors than regular furniture items, all of it could be covered in something like the aforementioned template. I also think the family pages should be their own pages entirely (rather than subpages of this page) to be consistent with fish/bug/sea creature/fossil pages. '''~''' [[User:AlexBot2004|<span style="font-family:Coustard;color:#1C662A">'''AlexBot2004'''</span>]] ([[User talk:AlexBot2004|<span style="font-family:Coustard;color:black">Talk</span>]]) 17:49, January 17, 2021 (EST)
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| − | ::I'm thinking we don't need separate info templates (e.g. {{T|PGFossilInfo}} and {{T|FossilContainer}}) for Gyroids since they don't have any additional data about them when compared to other furniture items (correct me if I'm wrong); the pages would be better formatted like series/sets pages with furniture tables pulling from Cargo. '''~''[[User:SuperHamster|<span style="color:#07517C">Super</span>]]''[[User:SuperHamster|<span style="color:#6FA23B">Hamster</span>]]''' <small>[[User talk:SuperHamster|Talk]] [[Special:Contribs/SuperHamster|Contribs]]</small> 04:52, August 17, 2021 (EDT)
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| − | :{{Oppose}} for now. Eventually, these pages ''will'' have to be split, although they ought to be in their own individual pages as they are indeed individual items akin to the ones we have for NH items (e.g., <code>Item:Mega Dekkoid (New Leaf)</code>), such that they may be saved in Cargo tables, and data presented here will be loaded from said tables. Currently, however, these templates that utilize Cargo do not exist for NL items, and I might argue that an act of splitting would be premature. Instead of having all Gyroid information in a single page, the user will have to navigate multiple pages just to get the information that he needs. In addition, splitting based on family could be "over-categorization" since, unlike groups of dinosaur fossils which can be described more in length (e.g., Blathers's quotations), the only differing factor between the gyroids is the noise that each one makes. [[File:Lucky Clover NL Icon.png|x24px|link=User:Decomposer]][[User talk:Decomposer|{{colorshow|006600|Decomposer}}]] 06:31, February 7, 2021 (EST)
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| − | :{{Oppose}} per Decomposer. If we have to split the gyroids, we would need to have pages for each Gyroid per each game, which we don't, at least up to {{PG}}. -- [[User:PanchamBro|PanchamBro]] ([[User talk:PanchamBro|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/PanchamBro|contributions]]) 21:42, July 1, 2021 (EDT)
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| − | :{{Oppose}} family pages per the comments above. I would support creating individual Item pages for each gyroid (although it may be a while before that happens). [[User:Drago|<span style="font-family:Coustard;color:green">Drago</span>]] [[User talk:Drago|<span style="font-family:Coustard;color:purple">(talk)</span>]] [[File:Drago PC Villager Icon.png|20px]] 10:31, July 2, 2021 (EDT)
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| − | :{{Support}} in a kind of combination of these ideas: I think each family should have a page (not a subpage) that links to the more specific items, like series pages do— e.g. [[Cabana Series]]. I just want to say ''if'' each Gyroid does get its own page in the Item namespace, we should be consistent and do that for fossils, right? The fossil pages could stay the same but also link to the more specific Item pages. Or, at the very least, make the Item pages redirects. [[User:Chubby Bub|Chubby Bub]] ([[User talk:Chubby Bub|talk]]) 03:58, August 17, 2021 (EDT)
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| − | ::Yea, I think the silent plan is to have item pages for fossils and artworks across all games like everything else, just hasn't been done yet. '''~''[[User:SuperHamster|<span style="color:#07517C">Super</span>]]''[[User:SuperHamster|<span style="color:#6FA23B">Hamster</span>]]''' <small>[[User talk:SuperHamster|Talk]] [[Special:Contribs/SuperHamster|Contribs]]</small> 04:03, August 17, 2021 (EDT)
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| − | :{{Support}}-ish: I think the end goal is:
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| − | :* an item page for every Gyroid per game
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| − | :* lists of Gyroids by game (e.g. Gyroids/City Folk, Gyroids/New Leaf, etc.)
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| − | :* family pages that have sections for each game, similar to our pages on furniture series and sets
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| − | :While Gyroid families may not be official series/sets, I think family pages are justified as Gyroids are distinguished from other types of items, there are a ''lot'' of them, and there is significant player interest around them. That being said, the natural progression would be to create the individual item pages first, because the list and family pages can then simply pull data from the item Cargo tables. However, if someone wants to get the ball rolling on creating a new Gyroid family infobox and start setting up family pages to prepare for the future, I wouldn't be opposed. The pages would be incomplete, but wikis are a work in progress. That being said, I would encourage editors interested in Gyroids to focus their efforts on the item spreadsheets and creating individual item pages starting with the original games. I'm perfectly fine with leaving the Gyroid page as-is and waiting for us to get individual item pages up before going forward with family pages. '''~''[[User:SuperHamster|<span style="color:#07517C">Super</span>]]''[[User:SuperHamster|<span style="color:#6FA23B">Hamster</span>]]''' <small>[[User talk:SuperHamster|Talk]] [[Special:Contribs/SuperHamster|Contribs]]</small> 04:52, August 17, 2021 (EDT)
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| − | == Seeing as Happy Vacation Designer's update introduced new gyroids and gyroid mechanics, this needs to be addressed. ==
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| − | I've flagged the page for an update, but I'm surprised this wasn't already tagged with the {{t|Future Release}} template.
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| − | This section is being posted to help create a space for discussion of how the article should be reorganized. Good luck. [[Special:Contributions/2601:540:8200:1895:1F11:1CEA:17AE:94CE|2601:540:8200:1895:1F11:1CEA:17AE:94CE]] 23:26, November 4, 2021 (EDT)
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