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*If an existing Bureaucrat removes two-factor authentication from their account, they will have 30 days to re-enable it, after which they will be demoted to Administrator. | *If an existing Bureaucrat removes two-factor authentication from their account, they will have 30 days to re-enable it, after which they will be demoted to Administrator. | ||
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− | *If a staff member does not utilize their abilities as staff, improperly utilizes them, or is otherwise seen as unfit to be staff, they may be expelled from the staff by a vote. Only | + | *If a staff member does not utilize their abilities as staff, improperly utilizes them, or is otherwise seen as unfit to be staff, they may be expelled from the staff by a vote. Only Bureaucrats or Directors may call for a vote to expel another staff member. The vote will be held on the wiki and have the same rules as a staff application: support from 65% of voting staff members and a minimum of 5 total votes. |
**If an expulsion vote is called in bad faith, it may be vetoed by a Director. | **If an expulsion vote is called in bad faith, it may be vetoed by a Director. | ||
**An expelled user may apply for staff again as a Patroller (regardless of their previous position) after 6 months. | **An expelled user may apply for staff again as a Patroller (regardless of their previous position) after 6 months. | ||
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*If a staff member clearly abuses their staff powers, vandalizes the site, or does any other action that would result in a block, they will be blocked from editing and removed from their staff position immediately. | *If a staff member clearly abuses their staff powers, vandalizes the site, or does any other action that would result in a block, they will be blocked from editing and removed from their staff position immediately. | ||
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There's a lot here, but my hope is to remove some of the vagueness in our existing policies, as well as create new policies to account for all possible scenarios. Thank you for your time and consideration. '''~''' [[User:AlexBot2004|<span style="font-family:Coustard;color:#1C662A">'''AlexBot2004'''</span>]] ([[User talk:AlexBot2004|<span style="font-family:Coustard;color:black">Talk</span>]]) 20:55, April 14, 2024 (EDT) | There's a lot here, but my hope is to remove some of the vagueness in our existing policies, as well as create new policies to account for all possible scenarios. Thank you for your time and consideration. '''~''' [[User:AlexBot2004|<span style="font-family:Coustard;color:#1C662A">'''AlexBot2004'''</span>]] ([[User talk:AlexBot2004|<span style="font-family:Coustard;color:black">Talk</span>]]) 20:55, April 14, 2024 (EDT) | ||
− | | comments = *Obviously not. Although I agree with the "minimum" vote, and non staff users can apply for anything, even bureaucrat. Plus, it should be a 80% agreement for demoting staff, because sometimes people are wrongly accused. '''''Plus, if there is no vote for demoting a staff that <u>clearly</u> abused tools, who in the world decides that it is a <u>clearly</u>? There should still be a vote when demoting staff who <u>clearly</u> abused tools.''''' Plus, staff that was removed and indefinitely barred from becoming staff again will just be mad and create a sockpuppet account. Plus, what if a director does something bad? Then a bureaucrat can propose a removal, but then the director removes it on sight. For example, lets say SuperHamster vandalizes every single page. But then, AlexBot2004 calls a proposal to remove him. And then SuperHamster can just remove that application because he is a director and can do that, as you mentioned above in your super-long boring description. [[File:ACL.png|20px]] [[User:Acnh Player|<span style="font-family:Coustard;color:#448EE4">'''Acnh Player'''</span>]] [[User talk:Acnh Player|<span style="font-family:Coustard;color:#1C662A">'''(talk)'''</span>]] [[File:ACL.png|20px]] 21:39, April 14, 2024 (EDT) | + | | comments = |
+ | *Obviously not. Although I agree with the "minimum" vote, and non staff users can apply for anything, even bureaucrat. Plus, it should be a 80% agreement for demoting staff, because sometimes people are wrongly accused. '''''Plus, if there is no vote for demoting a staff that <u>clearly</u> abused tools, who in the world decides that it is a <u>clearly</u>? There should still be a vote when demoting staff who <u>clearly</u> abused tools.''''' Plus, staff that was removed and indefinitely barred from becoming staff again will just be mad and create a sockpuppet account. Plus, what if a director does something bad? Then a bureaucrat can propose a removal, but then the director removes it on sight. For example, lets say SuperHamster vandalizes every single page. But then, AlexBot2004 calls a proposal to remove him. And then SuperHamster can just remove that application because he is a director and can do that, as you mentioned above in your super-long boring description. [[File:ACL.png|20px]] [[User:Acnh Player|<span style="font-family:Coustard;color:#448EE4">'''Acnh Player'''</span>]] [[User talk:Acnh Player|<span style="font-family:Coustard;color:#1C662A">'''(talk)'''</span>]] [[File:ACL.png|20px]] 21:39, April 14, 2024 (EDT) | ||
** I don't get this argument. So you're saying that if a admin abuses their rights in a clear malicious intent, we should wait by voting on their demotion instead of taking action immediately? Also, why assume the user's going to sockpuppet if they get banned? Staff rights is a responsibility, if anything goes wrong, we have to take action and take accountability for what goes on in the backstage. I'm confused. -- [[User:PanchamBro|PanchamBro]] ([[User talk:PanchamBro|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/PanchamBro|contributions]]) 01:36, April 15, 2024 (EDT) | ** I don't get this argument. So you're saying that if a admin abuses their rights in a clear malicious intent, we should wait by voting on their demotion instead of taking action immediately? Also, why assume the user's going to sockpuppet if they get banned? Staff rights is a responsibility, if anything goes wrong, we have to take action and take accountability for what goes on in the backstage. I'm confused. -- [[User:PanchamBro|PanchamBro]] ([[User talk:PanchamBro|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/PanchamBro|contributions]]) 01:36, April 15, 2024 (EDT) | ||
* Solid set of rules. I do have two recommended changes: | * Solid set of rules. I do have two recommended changes: | ||
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** "A user removed from the staff in this manner will be indefinitely barred from becoming staff again" -> I think we can remove this line. While it's very likely a staff member removed for abuse would never be staff again, I don't like absolutes like this. It's theoretically possible for someone to come back years later, be productive, and be re-accepted as staff. | ** "A user removed from the staff in this manner will be indefinitely barred from becoming staff again" -> I think we can remove this line. While it's very likely a staff member removed for abuse would never be staff again, I don't like absolutes like this. It's theoretically possible for someone to come back years later, be productive, and be re-accepted as staff. | ||
* Other than that, the proposal looks great and I'm happy to support. '''~[[User:SuperHamster|''<span style="color:#07517C;">Super</span>''<span style="color:#6FA23B;">Hamster</span>]]''' <small>[[User talk:SuperHamster|Talk]] [[Special:Contribs/SuperHamster|Contribs]]</small> 02:40, April 15, 2024 (EDT) | * Other than that, the proposal looks great and I'm happy to support. '''~[[User:SuperHamster|''<span style="color:#07517C;">Super</span>''<span style="color:#6FA23B;">Hamster</span>]]''' <small>[[User talk:SuperHamster|Talk]] [[Special:Contribs/SuperHamster|Contribs]]</small> 02:40, April 15, 2024 (EDT) | ||
− | | votes = [[File:Vote Icon Oppose.png|20px|Oppose|link=]] [[File:Vote Icon Oppose.png|20px|Oppose|link=]] [[File:Vote Icon Oppose.png|20px|Oppose|link=]] '''Extreamly Strong Oppose''' See above [[File:ACL.png|20px]] [[User:Acnh Player|<span style="font-family:Coustard;color:#448EE4">'''Acnh Player'''</span>]] [[User talk:Acnh Player|<span style="font-family:Coustard;color:#1C662A">'''(talk)'''</span>]] [[File:ACL.png|20px]] 21:39, April 14, 2024 (EDT) | + | **I've gone ahead and made both of those changes. For the first point, I initially worded the expulsion vote sentence that way since Directors are inherently Bureaucrats, but it is good to clarify. For the second, now that I think about it more, I agree that it is better to not have absolutes regarding being barred from staff. '''~''' [[User:AlexBot2004|<span style="font-family:Coustard;color:#1C662A">'''AlexBot2004'''</span>]] ([[User talk:AlexBot2004|<span style="font-family:Coustard;color:black">Talk</span>]]) 02:50, April 15, 2024 (EDT) |
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+ | * [[File:Vote Icon Oppose.png|20px|Oppose|link=]] [[File:Vote Icon Oppose.png|20px|Oppose|link=]] [[File:Vote Icon Oppose.png|20px|Oppose|link=]] '''Extreamly Strong Oppose''' See above [[File:ACL.png|20px]] [[User:Acnh Player|<span style="font-family:Coustard;color:#448EE4">'''Acnh Player'''</span>]] [[User talk:Acnh Player|<span style="font-family:Coustard;color:#1C662A">'''(talk)'''</span>]] [[File:ACL.png|20px]] 21:39, April 14, 2024 (EDT) | ||
* {{Support}} These changes are definitely well needed especially given the lack of activity by most of our staff, and the fact that info on admin abuse is definitely well warranted. -- [[User:PanchamBro|PanchamBro]] ([[User talk:PanchamBro|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/PanchamBro|contributions]]) 01:36, April 15, 2024 (EDT) | * {{Support}} These changes are definitely well needed especially given the lack of activity by most of our staff, and the fact that info on admin abuse is definitely well warranted. -- [[User:PanchamBro|PanchamBro]] ([[User talk:PanchamBro|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/PanchamBro|contributions]]) 01:36, April 15, 2024 (EDT) | ||
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Revision as of 02:50, April 15, 2024
Nookipedia Proposals allow the community to vote on sitewide changes that would affect a large number of pages or users. This process is not a replacement for community-wide input (see:The Roost) or talk page discussion. Rather, it takes the final product of those discussions (in the form of a proposal) and puts them to a vote.
Rules
- Proposals are only necessary for changes that would affect a large number of pages or users. Some examples: rules/policy changes, adding/removing namespaces, making major modifications to/replacing templates that affect 1000+ pages.
- Proposals are for voting on fully worked out ideas. They should be a binary yes/no choice and not have any yet-to-be-determined components: no 'option a, b, or c'. Proposals may be submitted without prior public comment or feedback, but should not receive major edits or changes once voting has started. If a proposal does not follow these rules or is otherwise deemed unfit, it may be vetoed at the discretion of a Bureaucrat.
- Proposals can only be submitted and voted upon by registered users. Comments or votes from unregistered users will be removed immediately. Furthermore, all votes or comments must have a signature attached (
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- Proposals will be open for seven days. This voting deadline can be extended upon request, at the discretion of a Bureaucrat.
- At the end of the voting period, if the proposal has at least a 2/3 majority (66%) support and five total votes it will be considered successful. A Bureaucrat will then officially close the proposal, and either enact it themselves, or coordinate with other staff members to make sure the proposal is completed.
- If the proposal does not have five votes at the end of the voting period, the voting period will be extended for seven days.
- Once a proposal has been enacted, the staff member responsible will make a note here and move the proposal to the Archives.
How to make a proposal
All proposals must be made using the template provided below, posted under the "Current Proposals" heading:
{{proposal | title = A short, one-sentence description of the proposal. | description = Additional proposal details/explanation. | comments = User commentary on proposal. | votes = User votes on proposal: {{Support}} or {{Oppose}} + signature (~~~~). }}
Current proposals
Changing the capitalization policy
Proposal: | Changing the capitalization policy |
How about we change the capitalization policy so that every letter in the title has to be capitalized except words like "the" and "and"? The English grammar is like that, and Nookipedia should probably follow it. I know this will effect so many pages, but again, I think it is necessary. Acnh Player (talk) 14:35, April 14, 2024 (EDT) | |
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Policies regarding staff promotions/demotions
Proposal: | Policies regarding staff promotions/demotions |
This proposal contains several changes to the staff application/promotion process as well as new policies regarding staff demotions.
If accepted, the following policies will be integrated into the staff application page.
There are currently no official rules on staff demotion. If accepted, the following policies will be documented on a new policy page.
There's a lot here, but my hope is to remove some of the vagueness in our existing policies, as well as create new policies to account for all possible scenarios. Thank you for your time and consideration. ~ AlexBot2004 (Talk) 20:55, April 14, 2024 (EDT) | |
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Result: (??%) | To be determined. |
Voting on this proposal has ended. (refresh)