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Post new topics below! [[User:Drago|<span style="font-family:Coustard;color:green">Drago</span>]] [[User talk:Drago|<span style="font-family:Coustard;color:purple">(talk)</span>]]    [[File:Drago PC Villager Icon.png|20px]] 11:03, January 1, 2019 (EST)
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== Add internal name and ID regarding item ==
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{{Archive top|result=There's support to add the internal name/ID of items to the item pages. -- [[User:PanchamBro|PanchamBro]] ([[User talk:PanchamBro|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/PanchamBro|contributions]]) 10:44, February 29, 2024 (EST)}}
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Something that has been on my mind lately was adding internal name and ID regarding a particular item. For instance, the {{I|tulip table|PG}} in {{PG}} has the filename <code>sum_poptable01</code> and the internal ID <code>126C</code>. I believe having information on the item pages would be useful for dataminers, modders, and such if they wanted to inspect information regarding a particular item instead of having to waddle through loads of spreadsheet information. -- [[User:PanchamBro|PanchamBro]] ([[User talk:PanchamBro|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/PanchamBro|contributions]]) 09:26, January 29, 2023 (EST)
  
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: {{Support}} for the reasons you've given. --[[User:BladeofEvilsBane|BladeofEvilsBane]] ([[User talk:BladeofEvilsBane|talk]]) 10:36, January 29, 2023 (EST)
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:{{Support}} '''~'''&nbsp;[[User:AlexBot2004|<span style="font-family:Coustard;color:#1C662A">'''AlexBot2004'''</span>]]&nbsp;([[User talk:AlexBot2004|<span style="font-family:Coustard;color:black">Talk</span>]]) 14:58, January 29, 2023 (EST)
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:{{Support}} '''''[[User:Briky|Briky]]'''''[[File:Emotion Greetings NH Icon.png|30px]] 15:34, January 6, 2024 (EST)
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== The animal emoji redirects ==
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{{Archive top|result=There doesn't seem to be a high demand to save the animals. The animal redirects shall be deleted. [[User:HylianAngel|HylianAngel]] ([[User talk:HylianAngel|talk]]) 20:43, February 16, 2023 (EST)}}
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Right now there are some emoji redirects involving the species pages. Currently these redirects exist: [[🐂]] [[🐊]] [[🐒]] [[🐕]] [[🐦]] [[🐵]] [[🐶]] [[🐺]] [[🐻]] [[🦍]]
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They are kind of peculiar, and I can't really gauge if these would necessarily be useful. They're so silly that I wouldn't even mind keeping them. I had to do a double-take when I checked Wikipedia, and [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Redirects_from_emoji they actually utilize emoji redirects], so it seems like they potentially serve some sort of usefulness. But either way, we should either:
  
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a. Complete the collection and create more redirects involving the remaining missing animal emojis from the [[:Category:Species|species]] pages<br>
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What do you think? [[User:HylianAngel|HylianAngel]] ([[User talk:HylianAngel|talk]]) 02:28, February 6, 2023 (EST)
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::Very much against the use of animal emoji redirects. I just do not think they are reasonably used or feasibly searched. [[User:Trig Jegman|Trig]] - 02:07, February 10, 2023 (EST)
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== New Project: Project Languages ==
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I think we should start a project where we fill up the boxes with "unknown" in on templates.
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--[[User:Sylveon|<span style="font-family:Coustard;color:purple">Sylveon</span>]] [[User talk:Sylveon|<span style="font-family:Coustard;color:magenta">(Autistic and proud!)</span>]]🍉🌺  08:53, February 17, 2023 (EST)
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:Currently, the major missing romanization on all articles, especially villager articles, is Traditional Chinese, as it was made a separate entry from Simplified Chinese. For Japanese, Korean, and Simplified Chinese (the mainland language of China), you can pretty much use Google Translate to obtain an acceptable romanization of the name. However, Traditional Chinese is a slightly more complicated subject to tackle.
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:I asked my Chinese friend if [[Marina#Names in other languages|this Traditional Chinese romanization of Marina's name was correct]], because it was so different from the Simplified Chinese romanization. Zhānglìnà vs. Jēung Laahp Nóh is crazy different, to me as an English-speaking person. But no, she mulled it for a few seconds and said, yep, the Traditional Chinese romanization in this situation is correct. Nookipedia is using the Hong Kong flag, which implies the dialect is Cantonese. I asked her to ignore the flag, and she said you can't do that, the flag matters. I told her that most other wikis, like Bulbapedia and WiKirby don't use flags, and they usually have it simply stated as "Simplified Chinese" and "Traditional Chinese" in written text without flags, and that they tend to make both of those romanizations identical. She said that's the wrong way to approach it, since you're basically erasing an entire dialect from existence by making the romanizations identical. I asked her, would it make sense to make the Traditional and Simplified Chinese romanizations the same if the flag was not there at all, and she said, yes, some dialects of Traditional Chinese would have identical romanization as Simplified Chinese, but that is why the flag is so important in this scenario because the Hong Kong flag implies the Cantonese dialect, and you shouldn't make the romanizations the same if it's the Hong Kong flag.
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:She also explained that China has been attempting to erase Cantonese for some time in order to make Simplified Chinese the main language. Another unfortunate aspect is that we wouldn't even be able to obtain any Cantonese Traditional Chinese romanizations on Nookipedia without the help of a Cantonese-speaking person, because Google Translate spits out identical romanizations for Simplified and Traditional Chinese anyways. So we have a major problem where the Hong Kong flag would be misleading if we were to copy-paste the Simplified Chinese romanizations to be the same as the Traditional Chinese romanizations, but if we were to decide to stick with Hong Kong/Cantonese, we probably will never have any Traditional Chinese romanizations ever, unless a Cantonese person decides to join and contribute for every page (and my Chinese friend does not know Cantonese). [[User:HylianAngel|HylianAngel]] ([[User talk:HylianAngel|talk]]) 16:13, February 17, 2023 (EST)
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:I may not know much about Cantonese at the moment, but I've been thinking about it considering that it has several romanizations that could be used here. I'm pretty sure Bulbapedia used Yale romanization for Cantonese, but on the other hand, there's also Jyutping romanization. If we can get some pointers on which of these romanizations should be used here, it would be a good start. Not to mention, the example of Marina earlier on seems to be using Yale's. <span style="background:linear-gradient(0deg,blue,cyan); -webkit-background-clip:text !important; -webkit-text-fill-color:transparent;">'''''[[User:Starry Windy|Starry Windy]]'''''</span>[[User talk:Starry Windy|<span style="color:gold">★</span>]] 23:05, November 29, 2023 (EST)
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== Villager Quotes ==
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Hi! I am new to being an editor, but recently I noticed Nookipedia doesn't do individual quotes for villagers, something the Animal Crossing Wiki does do. I've been adding quotes for a few villagers, but not too many. I wanted to garner some support before I continue to do more. I know most quotes are similar within personality, but there are some, like picture quotes, that are individual to certain villagers. I think this could be really cool to do for every villager, because the rest of the villager page isn't very personalized at all. Plus, sometimes, people only need the page to look for the picture quote, and putting it at the top of the page could be useful. I think it would be fun for the editors, and readers, to mix it up a little. So, community, do you have an opinion? Should I keep going? [[User:Omigpine11|Omigpine11]] ([[User talk:Omigpine11|talk]]) 17:59, March 11, 2023 (EST)Omigpine11
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:Although photo quotes are "unique dialogue" involving the villager, I feel it is not needed to include it at the top of the page, since this info is available within the infobox ("favorite saying"), which is very close to the top of the page already. If a reader only needs the photo quote, they already have easy access. These quotes are also located on the [[Photo]] page. I personally {{Oppose}} adding photo quotes to the top of villager pages. However, I {{Support}} adding quotes on villager pages in cases where it is in-game dialogue completely exclusive to the villager. These cases are rare, but some cases do occur in New Horizons involving very specific species-personality combos (where there is only 1 villager who is that species-personality, like Wendy the peppy sheep, on Year of the Sheep). While it's not really from the game, I agree with the [[Alfonso]] quote you added from the official NH website, since it is indeed completely unique. [[User:HylianAngel|HylianAngel]] ([[User talk:HylianAngel|talk]]) 18:25, March 11, 2023 (EST)
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::Actually HylianAngel, the top quote on Alfonso's page ''is'' a quote lazy villagers say in ''New Horizons'', just that "This place" is replaced with whatever you named your island. Just a warning that the source I am about to provide does contain some very crude language, but it's the only proof I was able to find of the quote being used in-game, so please bear with me on this one (quote is on the 4th pic): https://imgflip.com/i/43nbpn
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::That being said, I don't really mind it being Alfonso's top quote since the website does make that association. [[File:Snapping Turtle NH Icon.png|25px]]'''The [[User:The Jacketed Terrapin|<span style="color: blue;">Jacketed</span>]] [[User talk:The Jacketed Terrapin|<span style="color: green;">Terrapin</span>]]'''[[File:Soft-Shelled Turtle NH Icon.png|25px]] 18:31, March 11, 2023 (EST)
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:::Thanks, I should have worded it more clearly that it's a unique association. I did remember the dialogue from playing NH, so saying "completely unique" was not entirely correct when I was trying to convey my reasoning. [[User:HylianAngel|HylianAngel]] ([[User talk:HylianAngel|talk]]) 18:34, March 11, 2023 (EST)
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:I wanted to mention that I went ahead and added the unique dialogue involving New Year's Day for unique species-personality combos to the "Trivia" sections of the involved pages, but only for bulls/cows (2021), tigers (2022), and rabbits (2023). So this would be [[Coach]], [[Norma]], [[Patty]], [[Rolf]], [[Claudia]], [[Gaston]], [[Coco]], and [[Mira]].
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:I didn't add the dialogue for future years yet, which would be horses (2026), sheep (2027), monkeys (2028), birds (2029), dogs (2030), pigs (2031), and mice (2032). Actually, from reading the dialogue files, it's unclear if Year of the Rooster (2029) will apply to all bird-related species (birds, ducks, eagles, ostriches, penguins, and chickens), a subset of these bird species, or just chickens themselves. The dialogue specifically says "Year of the Bird," or "Year of the Rooster," depending on the personality type of the speaking villager, but mostly these dialogues state "Year of the Bird." Unless someone time travels to 2029 and checks each species, or unless a dataminer could examine the code, it probably won't be known. Anyways, I felt it would make sense to just add the dialogue for 2021-2023 and not the future years yet. However, I wouldn't be against adding the future years either. [[User:HylianAngel|HylianAngel]] ([[User talk:HylianAngel|talk]]) 07:14, March 12, 2023 (EDT)
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== Villager catchphrases ==
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I strongly believe that villager pages should have a dedicated section to their catchphrases in each language, in the same style as their given name in the "Names in other languages" section. Currently there is not a good place to describe the meaning of a villager's foreign catchphrases, so there are cases where the Japanese catchphrase holds some relevance to the character, but since there is no decent section to place it, it is instead placed at the top of the page, where it sits next to any relevant English given name and English catchphrase origin information. That location is somewhat awkward, since it's inconsistent to have the English given name, the English catchphrase, no Japanese given name (since Japanese name info is generally placed in the "Names in other languages" section), and then the Japanese catchphrase.
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If there was a dedicated section for catchphrases in other languages, it would not only allow describing any Japanese catchphrase relevance, but also the relevance of catchphrases of every other language as well, and there is currently no location to place non-English or non-Japanese catchphrase relevancy information. Basic "names in other languages" and "catchphrases in other languages" data exists in the infobox, and yet only the "names in other languages" is duplicated at the bottom of the page. I believe both should be at the bottom of the page.
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While the main article header would be "Names in other languages," there are 2 different formatting styles that could be implemented:
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*The sub-headers are the words "Given name" and "Catchphrase."
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**Optionally and additionally, in combination with this style so that the name and catchphrase are extremely explicit, a parameter for the English name can be included, like how Fire Emblem Wiki does it ([[fireemblem:Marth#Etymology and other languages|example here]]). While it might be currently redundant with the English information included in the intro prose, I think it's fine for there to be redundant information, as many villager pages already do repeat redundant information (like the infobox repeating the foreign names information), and it can serve a very useful utility purpose if intros are ever repurposed to no longer include English name/catchphrase origins. Plus, it would allow for future "favorite sayings" English explanations, which no intros do unless it's related to the character's identity/species somehow, but I feel this would be good information to include no matter what.
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*The sub-headers are the character's actual name and catchphrase, like for example [[Sherb]], the sub-headers would be "Sherb" and "bawwww."
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I'm also open to other suggestions for the formatting style. I'm slightly partial to the first style, just because there might be a case where "favorite sayings" are also given their own dedicated section in the future, and the full saying might be weird as a header. What formatting do you think would be best? [[User:HylianAngel|HylianAngel]] ([[User talk:HylianAngel|talk]]) 14:50, April 4, 2023 (EDT), edited again on 16:11, April 22, 2023 (EDT)
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== I caught the spirit!! ==
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I caught farley!! ~[[File:SylveonSig.png|link=User:Sylveon|120px]] 08:51, April 11, 2023 (EDT)
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==Trig Jegman's File Template==
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As I am sure you have seen, I've been working on the creation and generation of [[Module:Sandbox/Trig Jegman/File|my file module]] for Nookipedia. The time is now to suggest that it is used instead of the existing [[Template:File Info]].
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First, to be explicitly clear, this module would work the same as a template to the degree that I have made sure everything will retroactively work on it. '''Nothing would break by the implementation of the module.'''
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Second: My module is a lot beefier than the existing template is now. Here's the main takeaways:
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*Combined licensing. No more need for having 33 different licensing templates, when the module will take care of all of them collectively.
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*More maintenance parameters and a closer analysis of sourcing. There are several maintenance features included, such as files taken from FANDOM sources or YouTube.
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*Predesignated sources for when the user captures an image themself.
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*Automatic categorization. This is the big one: Through the introduction of two new parameters (game and type), files will now automatically be categorized into their appropriate categories, making widescale changes easier and formatting more consistent.
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*This is an excellent opportunity to look at all of the files on site and reduce duplicates, fix naming, improve quality, and get specific sources amongst other tasks.
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I wouldn't propose this if I didn't have great success in implementing this before. I have completely added this style of template to '''every single file''' on WiKirby, Wars Wiki, Inkipedia, MiiWiki, The Cycle: Frontier, as well as partial completion on Mystery Dungeon Francise Wiki, FamiWiki, and StrategyWiki. I've done it before and I'm more than happy to do it again to get this implemented. I really think that having this upgrade is a valuable resource and helps create consistency both on this site and in conjunction with other wikis as well. [[User_talk:Trig_Jegman/Sandbox|I have a few examples of use cases here]] to understand what it might look like. The new parameters are the following:
  
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*Game — Allows an automatic link to a game, and can work to add automatic categories.
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*User — Used for user files or when attributing the source to someone else.
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I'm happy to make more examples, or give breakdowns of how I would go about fixing these, or answer any questions about it. Please let me know how you feel about implementing it on Nookipedia as well! [[User:Trig Jegman|Trig]] - 13:22, June 28, 2023 (EDT)
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:{{Support}} - Everything here looks great! The combined licensing and automatic categorization are especially welcome additions; I can't think of anything at the moment that I'd add or change. '''~'''&nbsp;[[User:AlexBot2004|<span style="font-family:Coustard;color:#1C662A">'''AlexBot2004'''</span>]]&nbsp;([[User talk:AlexBot2004|<span style="font-family:Coustard;color:black">Talk</span>]]) 01:08, July 6, 2023 (EDT)
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:{{Support}} I think this could work. I do believe though that if we agree on this more, we should set up a proposal to implement. -- [[User:PanchamBro|PanchamBro]] ([[User talk:PanchamBro|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/PanchamBro|contributions]]) 16:41, September 5, 2023 (EDT)
  
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I don't know if this isn't the right place to put this discussion, or if it has been raised before somewhere else. I noticed that some of the lists of furniture of each color list what "style" they are in New Leaf, but the [[List of colorful furniture items|colorful]], [[List of blue furniture items|blue]], [[List of brown furniture items|brown]], [[List of gray furniture items|gray]], [[List of black furniture items|black]], and [[List of white furniture items|white]] pages call them "vibes" instead. There do not seem to be any lists for clothing to see their styles. Also, the Villager Info template seems to automatically draw items of the appropriate color and style for ideal gifts, but I do not know where it draws it from. This template also links to a page for the appropriate color and style, but none of the style pages exist. Might it be possible to automatically generate pages for each style in a similar way to how the template does it? Also, should I be saying "style" or "vibe"? Should there be a page for "Styles"? [[User:Ok|Ok]] ([[User talk:Ok|talk]]) 14:43, February 10, 2019 (EST)
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:The tables for furniture sorted by color are horribly outdated. The last update in content was at 2014, and by then [[Template:TableHeader]] was already a thing, which should standardize these all (i.e., they're called styles). And where did you get "vibe" from? There was not a single instance of that word in any of the articles you've linked. I am not so sure whether '''Style''' is notable enough to merit a separate page. Updating [[Furniture]] to add mechanics (e.g., effects of the colors and styles on villager interaction) is a wiser decision.
 
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:The ideal gifts are drawn from [[Template:Villager Info]]. I invite you to read the source code yourself, but, from <tt><nowiki><!--Second Table--></nowiki></tt>, it is generated from [[Template:Ideal Clothing]], [[Template:Ideal Furniture]], or [[Template:Ideal Gifts]], and from there, the "ideal gifts" are hardcoded. (The ideal gifts are non-exhaustive, but a small sample from a large pool.) This is all done by [[User:sunmarsh]], which we should commend.
 
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:I hope that helps. Feel free to update the pages if necessary (and if you make a mistake, the kind people here will let you know on your talk page), but you're already doing good work on the Japanese transcription. Also I don't know whether you're already there, but consider joining the [[Nookipedia:Discord|Discord server]] for asking little questions regarding the Wiki, or just hanging out in general. [[User:Decomposer|Decomposer]] ([[User talk:Decomposer|talk]]) 07:41, February 14, 2019 (EST)
 
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::Yeah, really soon after I made this section, Drago changed [[Template:ItemList NL]] to say "style" instead of "vibe." Ideally, though, they would all use [[Template:TableHeader]] instead. I might look at those templates you linked, thank you! Also, I will look into the discord. [[User:Ok|Ok]] ([[User talk:Ok|talk]]) 13:36, February 14, 2019 (EST)
 
  
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{{U|PanchamBro}}'s bot fixed the capitalization of {{NH|short|nolink}} items on almost all villager pages, but since [[Jacob|Jacob/Jakey]] and [[Spork|Spork/Crackle]] have 2 different names, I think the bot skipped over those two. Making a note here that it needs to eventually be fixed, don't have time to fix it myself at the moment. [[User:HylianAngel|HylianAngel]] ([[User talk:HylianAngel|talk]]) 15:51, July 29, 2023 (EDT)
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:This should be fixed now! -- [[User:PanchamBro|PanchamBro]] ([[User talk:PanchamBro|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/PanchamBro|contributions]]) 01:05, August 2, 2023 (EDT)
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::Thank you! [[User:HylianAngel|HylianAngel]] ([[User talk:HylianAngel|talk]]) 20:51, August 4, 2023 (EDT)
  
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I'm sorry to put two topics here in a row (so soon after making an account) and maybe raise points that no one cares about, but I think it would be helpful if we had a clearly defined standard for romaji use (transliterating Japanese into Latin letters) so that we could make it consistent everywhere. If there already is a standard, I'm sorry! I put together the following proposal for rules based on what seems to be the de facto standard here (of course, there are exceptions; I wanted to be able to edit those out consistently):
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==wanna join my club???==
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it is called bob fan club {{Unsigned|FroggyPotter}}
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:Sure. Thanks, --[[User:SunsetBay|<span style="font-family:Inconsolata;color:#CB6AE7">SunsetBay</span>]] ([[User talk:SunsetBay|<span style="font-family:Inconsolata;color:#E283ED">Talk</span>]]) [[File:Margie NL Villager Icon.png|25px]] 05:31, September 5, 2023 (EDT)
  
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Are there any resources to help figure out how they work? If not can some please explain them to me? [[User:TheMajesticPineapple|TheMajesticPineapple]] ([[User talk:TheMajesticPineapple|talk]]) 22:56, August 24, 2023 (EDT)
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:Here are a couple of resources:
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:* https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:Cargo (also check out the [https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:Cargo/Storing_data Storing data] and [https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:Cargo/Querying_data Querying data] subpages)
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* Small kana which are not part of a standard digraph are treated as their large variants.
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:My personal understanding of it is that the gist of it is that you'll have a template for a type of page with a bunch of input fields. In the template you say that inputs in those fields get stored in a big behind-the-scenes table. You can then create a cargo query table to list specific stuff from that big table on any page you want. For better understanding the template side of things it helps to look at templates that use cargo, and for cargo query tables it helps to look at and compare different pages that use different cargo queries. Hope this helps a bit! [[User:Bassieeee|Bassieeee]] ([[User talk:Bassieeee|talk]]) 07:19, August 25, 2023 (EDT)
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* Changing between hiragana and katakana, as well as other word boundaries, are represented by a space (ex. [[Ribbot]]'s catchphrase だロボ -> da robo).
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::Thank you so much, I couldn't find anything on them anywhere.
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::[[User:TheMajesticPineapple|TheMajesticPineapple]] ([[User talk:TheMajesticPineapple|talk]]) 09:30, August 25, 2023 (EDT)
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:[[Nookipedia:Project Database]] has some good  information on cargo tables, and we have a channel for discussing cargo tables on our Discord server. --[[User:BladeofEvilsBane|BladeofEvilsBane]] ([[User talk:BladeofEvilsBane|talk]]) 19:00, August 26, 2023 (EDT)
  
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In situations where diacritics (the macrons, in this case) should not be used, such as when the Japanese name of a character is being used as their English name due to not yet having appeared in an English game, There are a couple of options (I use [[Twiggy]]'s Japanese name as an example):
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== Ideas. ==
  
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* Simply omit macrons. (ピーチク -> Pīchiku -> Pichiku)
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1. Project Trivia. A project focused on trivia. I would be happy to lead this project.
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* Spell long vowels that would be represented with macrons with two of the same vowel letter. (ピーチク -> Pīchiku -> Piichiku)
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2. An Animal Crossing Debate Club.
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Thanks, --[[User:SunsetBay|<span style="font-family:Inconsolata;color:#CB6AE7">SunsetBay</span>]] ([[User talk:SunsetBay|<span style="font-family:Inconsolata;color:#E283ED">Talk</span>]]) [[File:Margie NL Villager Icon.png|25px]] 14:29, September 5, 2023 (EDT)
  
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I think that I prefer the first alternative, since with the second option, English spelling would make people likely to mispronounce many words spelled with ee or oo. Maybe we could do a hybrid where we spell ē and ō as e and o, and the rest as double letters. Or, we could just use the macrons everywhere (the only downside is that they're hard to input for most keyboards).
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:Going to lean with the former not being necessary. Trivia as a whole is not an inherent ''requirement'' for pages to have, and in many instances (broadly across all wikis, not exclusively here), people get really obsessed with adding trivia points that would much better be served in main article sections like descriptions or are so vague or stretches that they aren't inherently useful—I'd be concerned a project like that would encourage something like that. If the project was to perhaps update and consolidate or re-integrate trivia, I would be more on board.
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:The idea of a debate club is cool, but it's not really what a wiki is for. Furthermore, the format of a wiki isn't terribly constructive for a rapid-fire debate club style of writing/conversation. I would suggest joining an Animal Crossing discord (or making your own) for something like this.
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:These are just my opinions on the matter, hope it helps. [[User:Trig Jegman|Trig]] - 02:28, September 28, 2023 (EDT)
  
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If anyone disagrees with any of these rules or thinks I got something wrong, or if you have other ideas, feel free to say so!
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::OK, Thanks, --[[User:SunsetBay|<span style="font-family:Inconsolata;color:#CB6AE7">SunsetBay</span>]] ([[User talk:SunsetBay|<span style="font-family:Inconsolata;color:#E283ED">Talk</span>]]) [[File:Margie NL Villager Icon.png|25px]] 07:23, October 1, 2023 (EDT)
  
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== Discussing our proposal system ==
  
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Also, I would like to ask how to handle the Japanese names in Infobox Villager and Infobox Special templates. A couple of days ago, I edited the japanese field in the Infobox Villager of a couple of villagers whose names in Japanese come from other languages and thus have standardized spellings in Latin letters. I followed the example of the pages for [[Alfonso]] and [[Ruby]], where the first line has the name in kana, the second has the romaji, and the third has the standard spelling. I like this format because it includes the most information. However, virtually all of the other villagers whose names were from other languages only had the romaji or the standard spelling, not both. Furthermore, many use the JN template, which only has 2 lines (and has the unfortunate side-effect of cancelling the bold text; can someone change that? If it's not intended...) If we only include one, I think that the standard spelling would be more useful. I don't mind at all going through a lot of these pages and putting in the spellings.
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I'm starting to think non-Trustees shouldn't make proposals here. While so far we only had FroggyPotter's recent proposal asking for "one staff to be active at all time", I get this feeling that users not acquainted with policy-making will go to the proposal system for something that isn't a change affecting "a large number of pages or users".
  
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Many of the special characters' Japanese names (like Reese, who is Lisa) also have standard spellings, and all of these pages use the JN template (it looks prettier in the Infobox Special template) so I think it would be most convenient thing would be for someone to just add a line to the template.
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What do you think? Should we limit the creation of proposal to only Trustees or not? -- [[User:PanchamBro|PanchamBro]] ([[User talk:PanchamBro|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/PanchamBro|contributions]]) 16:32, September 5, 2023 (EDT)
  
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Again, sorry if I've missed something.  [[User:Ok|Ok]] ([[User talk:Ok|talk]])
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*{{Comment}} I probably wouldn't support going that far; I think everyone should have a chance to submit their ideas as a proposal. We could limit to autoconfirmed, but that wouldn't help much.
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:I don't have anything useful to add to this as I'm unfamiliar with Japanese - just wanted to say, appreciate you bringing this up and I think it would be great if we can come up with a documented standardization for all this :) <b>~<i>[[User:SuperHamster|<span style="color:#07517C;">Super</span>]]</i>[[User:SuperHamster|<span style="color:#6FA23B;">Hamster</span>]]</b> <small>[[User talk:SuperHamster|Talk]]</small> 22:31, February 13, 2019 (EST)
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:I do, however, think there should be an ability for admins to veto proposals that are clearly unnecessary or relate to how the staff operate, like there is on MarioWiki. FroggyPotter's proposal would fall into the latter category. [[User:Drago|<span style="font-family:Coustard;color:green">Drago</span>]] [[User talk:Drago|<span style="font-family:Coustard;color:purple">(talk)</span>]]   [[File:Drago PC Villager Icon.png|20px]] 10:46, September 6, 2023 (EDT)
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::Thank you so much SuperHamster!
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:*I dig an ability to veto a proposal that is unnecessary or is in regards to staff and all. -- [[User:PanchamBro|PanchamBro]] ([[User talk:PanchamBro|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/PanchamBro|contributions]]) 16:32, September 7, 2023 (EDT)
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::*When overhauling Inkipedia's proposal system recently, we introduced a veto that would require three administrators to veto a proposal in a publicly listed third vote in order to shut things down. Not saying this is better or worse than the above listed, just that it is another option. [[User:Trig Jegman|Trig]] - 02:28, September 28, 2023 (EDT)
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*{{Comment}} Agree with Drago on both points. [[User:Chubby Bub|Chubby Bub]] ([[User talk:Chubby Bub|talk]]) 21:00, September 6, 2023 (EDT)
  
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::Anyway, I noticed I forgot one obvious thing, so I will add it here (it goes with the 2nd bullet point):
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== Translating the wiki ==
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::* An apostrophe should also be used after n before a ヤ行 kana (one starting with a y) to distinguish it from youon. (んや　-> n'ya, にゃ -> nya)
 
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::Also, I realized that if we do put all three forms of some villagers' Japanese names, then we may or may not not want to include the standard spelling if:
 
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::*The standard spelling is the same as the villager's English name (as with [[Ketchup]])
 
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::*The standard spelling is being used as the villager's name here, but there is no official English name (as with [[Joe]])
 
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::*The standard spelling is the same as the romaji spelling (as with [[Becky]])
 
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::I'm not really against including it in any of these situations, but it would become redundant. (Finally, I should have spelled chōonpu as chouonpu as per this standard, oops.)  [[User:Ok|Ok]] ([[User talk:Ok|talk]]) 13:36, February 14, 2019 (EST)
 
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:::Note: As of now, I'm leaning against using any of these exceptions. --[[User:Ok|Ok]] ([[User talk:Ok|talk]]) 15:31, March 4, 2019 (EST)
 
  
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:::I'm one of the seemingly few people here who know Japanese (though you definitely seem to be a level ahead of me) and overall I agree with everything you've said. Those are more or less the rules I've been trying to follow anyway, and having a standardization for it would be great!
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I would like to translate the wiki to Italian. Does anyone know if I have to get permission or if there's a way to add new languages to pages?
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:::For the villagers with three name forms (using Alfonso as an example) I'd like to suggest something like:
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Edit: I see both the Spanish and German version have gone separate ways but I was aiming to just add something to Nookipedia itself.
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:::'''{{tt|アルベルト|Aruberuto}}'''
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[[User:FUGOSHROOM|FUGOSHROOM]] ([[User talk:FUGOSHROOM|talk]]) 15:20, October 14, 2023 (EDT)FUGOSHROOM
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:::'''Albert'''
 
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:::as I feel stacking all three names ends up feeling a bit cluttered. Maybe we could even update Template:JN to work like this?
 
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:::Also, regarding macrons, I'm in favor of just using them everywhere. The editor does have a built-in "special characters" list so being hard to input shouldn't be too big of an issue. --{{User:Lotter/sig}} 09:37, February 18, 2019 (EST)
 
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::::Hey, thanks! That's actually a really good idea, and it looks good in both templates! I went ahead and made 2 test templates for JN to test this idea: [[User:Ok/sandbox/JN]] and [[User:Ok/sandbox/JN2]]. The first one always puts the romaji in the hover-over text, while the second one only does so if there is no latin spelling given. I don't know which would be better; the JN2 might be good because it looks the same for both types of names. I didn't make it bold it in the templates since both infoboxes automatically bold their "japanese" field, but if this template needs to be used anywhere else, I can add bold to it. Also, to see comparisons of their effects, I used them on test names with and without latin spellings, alone and in both [[Template:Infobox Villager]] and [[Template:Infobox Special]], which you can see at [[User:Ok/sandbox]].
 
  
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::::By the way, if we can use macrons anywhere, do you think it's ok to use them in page titles? Because if so, I think we should move [[Jubei]] to Jūbē. I actually was kind of unsure of what to do about him, because ベエ is actually an old male name suffix that is spelled with 2 kanji, 兵衛 (ジュウベエ would probably be 十兵衛). There is often a convention not to group together as long vowels sounds that are written with different kanji, but they are pronounced the same. Also, his name isn't ''really'' spelled with 2 kanji, so I kind of think we should just treat it as a long vowel, in any case. Lol sorry to bring up so much extra stuff in this response, I mainly just wanted to thank you for your idea!
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== Delete single-character species pages ==
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::::[[User:Ok|Ok]] ([[User talk:Ok|talk]]) 21:01, February 18, 2019 (EST)
 
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:::::Looks great! I'd say JN2 is better since it's both more visually consistent and always easy to tell even at a quick glance. We probably don't need to use it anywhere else so I don't think you need to worry about bolding it - and if we ever do we could just change it then.
 
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:::::As a general rule I see no reason why we couldn't have macrons in page titles, as long as we also keep a redirect that omits them. As for Jubei in particular, that's kind of a tricky situation; if we simply transcribe the kana following the stated rules, then yes, it would be Jūbē. But at the same time Jubei (or Jūbei) seems to be the common English spelling, so in a sense it also falls under the same category as for example Joe, despite being a Japanese name. To a lesser extent there's also the issue that the name has already established itself throughout the fandom at large. (Though he's obscure enough that I wouldn't consider that a huge deal.) All in all, though, I could really see it going either way. If it was up to me I think I'd only move it to Jūbei at most, but it would probably be good to get more people's opinion on the matter as well.
 
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:::::And no worries, I think it's great that you're bringing this up because we really do need to sort some of these things out! Thank you for taking the time and effort! --{{User:Lotter/sig}} 22:49, February 18, 2019 (EST)
 
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::::::Wow, you're right. I didn't think to look the name up in English. It's kind of weird that they chose that spelling, but I guess it was to prevent people from pronouncing it like "jew-bee" or "joob." Anyway, I suppose that's ok then.  [[User:Ok|Ok]] ([[User talk:Ok|talk]]) 23:55, February 18, 2019 (EST)
 
  
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I'm going to go ahead and start editing the villagers' pages, not using [[Template:JN]]. It seems that it doesn't add very much anyways. [[User:Ok|Ok]] ([[User talk:Ok|talk]]) 21:23, February 17, 2019 (EST)
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There are currently 18 species pages for species that only contain a single character. All of them are no longer than one or two sentences, usually just describing what the character does or what they look like, which is already covered on that character's own article. Therefore, I propose that these pages be redirected to their respective characters' pages. The following pages would be affected by this:
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:Note: the JN template has now been updated and as such should be used. --[[User:Ok|Ok]] ([[User talk:Ok|talk]]) 15:31, March 4, 2019 (EST)
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{{Columns-list|
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*[[Axolotl]] ([[Dr. Shrunk]])
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*[[Camel]] ([[Saharah]])
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*[[Fox]] ([[Redd]])
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*[[Frill-necked lizard]] ([[Frillard]])
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*[[Fur seal]] ([[Phineas]])
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*[[Giraffe]] ([[Gracie]])
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*[[Gray langur]] ([[Niko]])
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*[[Gyroid (species)]] ([[Lloid]])
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*[[Manatee]] ([[Wardell]])
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*[[Panther]] ([[Katrina]])
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*[[Peacock]] ([[Pavé]])
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*[[Pigeon]] ([[Brewster]])
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*[[Reindeer]] ([[Jingle]])
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*[[Skunk]] ([[Kicks]])
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*[[Sloth]] ([[Leif]])
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*[[Tapir]] ([[Luna]])
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*[[Turkey]] ([[Franklin]])
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*[[Walrus]] ([[Wendell]])
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}}
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'''~'''&nbsp;[[User:AlexBot2004|<span style="font-family:Coustard;color:#1C662A">'''AlexBot2004'''</span>]]&nbsp;([[User talk:AlexBot2004|<span style="font-family:Coustard;color:black">Talk</span>]]) 02:26, December 21, 2023 (EST)
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:{{Comment}} For the most part, I don't have any attachment to the single-special-character species pages, though it would be a loss for the [[fox]], [[gray langur]], [[peacock]], and [[reindeer]] pages specifically, since those happen to have additional information involving related villagers that are depicted to be the same as those species, in appearance only (e.g. [[Audie]] and [[Chief]] on the fox page). Though that's not to say it means we should keep these species pages, because it's not like there's pages for every unique portrayal of an animal villager species (like zebra for [[Savannah]], flamingo for [[Flora]], etc.), just the villagers that coincidentally line up with special character species. Though I felt like it was worth noting for a fuller picture for the vote. [[User:HylianAngel|HylianAngel]] ([[User talk:HylianAngel|talk]]) 03:00, December 21, 2023 (EST)
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:{{Support}} I feel there isn't much point in giving a species a dedicated article if there's only one character of said species, cuz there really isn't much (if anything) the species page can cover that the character's article can't (lest we wanna fill 'em with a bunch of real-world info that has no relevancy to the character/series).<br>I also noticed that the axolotl page has an image of its real-life counterpart, with the only other species page with this distinction being [[raccoon]]. Admittedly I question the necessity of these images (mostly the raccoon dog pic, anyway), but I'll save that for different discussion, I just wanted to bring it up. [[File:Snapping Turtle NH Icon.png|25px]]'''The [[User:The Jacketed Terrapin|<span style="color: blue;">Jacketed</span>]] [[User talk:The Jacketed Terrapin|<span style="color: green;">Terrapin</span>]]'''[[File:Soft-Shelled Turtle NH Icon.png|25px]] 14:00, December 21, 2023 (EST)
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:{{Comment}} I feel that it ''would'' be a good cleanup, but yeah,  as stated above, some pages show some details, like [[Julia]] resembling a [[Peacock]] or [[Deli]] looking like a gray tangur, although they are listed under different species. '''''[[User:Briky|Briky]]'''''[[File:Emotion Greetings NH Icon.png|30px]] 02:44, January 6, 2024 (EST)
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:{{Oppose}} While I get the reasons behind this, I think we shouldn't rule out the possibilities of new characters based on these species in case if future ''Animal Crossing'' games comes around. Case in point: ''New Horizons'' brought several new characters like [[C.J.]], [[Flick]], [[Daisy Mae]] and [[Gullivarrr]], which represents beaver, chameleon, boar and seagull respectively, which prior to ''New Horizons'' also have only one characters. If they didn't get introduced, these species pages might possibly be on jeopardy as well. There's also some trivia but notable mentions like from [[Erik]] and Julia which were easily found in these species pages. For these reasons, I have to disagree with this. <span style="background:linear-gradient(0deg,blue,cyan); -webkit-background-clip:text !important; -webkit-text-fill-color:transparent;">'''''[[User:Starry Windy|Starry Windy]]'''''</span>[[User talk:Starry Windy|<span style="color:gold">★</span>]] 18:47, January 6, 2024 (EST)
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::If more characters in these species are introduced in later games, then we can recreate these pages then. But as it is now, these pages don't offer any information that isn't already on the character's page. I agree that it's worth noting the villagers who resemble some of these species, but that can be noted on that villager's page in the "Appearance" section. '''~'''&nbsp;[[User:AlexBot2004|<span style="font-family:Coustard;color:#1C662A">'''AlexBot2004'''</span>]]&nbsp;([[User talk:AlexBot2004|<span style="font-family:Coustard;color:black">Talk</span>]]) 18:55, January 6, 2024 (EST)
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:{{Comment}} Could we not merge them all into a single page? --[[File:Shark HHD Icon.png|20px]] [[User:Dorsal Axe|<span style="color:#0B3E57; font-family: Coustard">Dorsal Axe</span>]] <span style="font-family: Coustard"><small>([[User talk:Dorsal Axe|talk]])</small></span> 04:31, February 4, 2024 (EST)
  
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== Use screenshots instead of artwork on special character pages ==
  
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I have created a [[User:Ok/Rōmaji Standard|page on my user page]] that will compile just the bullet points of the standard, so its current state can be more easily referred to. You can still discuss it here. In addition, I changed all usages of 行 and 段 for kana to the words "row" and "grade" to make it easier for English speakers to read. I would also like to propose the following rule about word boundaries:
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Right now, on special character pages in the "Appearances" sections for each game, we generally have artwork of that character from that game. However, I think screenshots from that game would be much more useful to readers, both in showing how the character appears/works in each game, and to better illustrate what is being described in the prose. I think artwork doesn't really add much and is better suited for the character's gallery page. '''~'''&nbsp;[[User:AlexBot2004|<span style="font-family:Coustard;color:#1C662A">'''AlexBot2004'''</span>]]&nbsp;([[User talk:AlexBot2004|<span style="font-family:Coustard;color:black">Talk</span>]]) 16:44, December 25, 2023 (EST)
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* All particles, such as が, を, よ, ね, and だ, are treated as separate words, unless they begin with ん or っ, in which case they should be written together with the word they follow.
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:{{Support}} That's the most logical system for portraying the content and how it should consistently be everywhere. I think the only reason why it's not already like that is because of the lack of special character screenshots for each game in the series. [[Blanca]] and [[Katie]] in the older games would be especially difficult. [[User:HylianAngel|HylianAngel]] ([[User talk:HylianAngel|talk]]) 20:38, January 6, 2024 (EST)
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Treating particles as separate words would make it easier to place word boundaries, as sometimes what is considered a particle by some is considered a full word by others. However, particles like ん and って cannot be words on their own, because their first sound must go at the end of a syllable. As such, they must be treated as part of the word they modify. (We could hyphenate them? It might look ugly: あるんだって言ってた -> Aru-n da-tte itteta?) --[[User:Ok|Ok]] ([[User talk:Ok|talk]]) 15:31, March 4, 2019 (EST)
 
  
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== Cantonese spelling ==
  
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I'm not sure if it's alright to create a new section here because I've covered this on several threads before, but I think it would be a good time to discuss which kind of spelling that will be used on Cantonese romanizations. As described on previous threads, I'm not a Cantonese speaker, but I wanted the Cantonese spellings to be filled. The thing is, Cantonese has several known spellings which makes me not sure which one to put in.
  
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I would like to discuss how we handle an i-grade kana followed by small ィ. It seems like there is somewhat of a standard to use "yi" for the rōmaji. However, I would suggest that for all cases except for イィ, we use "ī" instead. This is how it is actually pronounced in Japanese; it is mostly used as a cutesy way to transcribe an "ie" or "y" sound from English at the end of a word (/iː/ for most speakers, /ɪ/ in some dialects, especially British). For example, "Lily" is written リリー or リリィ; Harpie Lady from Yu-Gi-Oh is written ハーピィ・レディ. It is also used for a /ji/ ("yi") sound from other languages, but since English lacks this with any consonants beforehand (we don't have "byee," for example) it is usually only used this way for イィ. I would really like some discussion before I changed pages' rōmaji, though. The only villager names that use this type of kana are [[Bonbon]] (who is named the same as Mimmy from Hello Kitty), [[Carrie]] (Mommy), [[Frobert]] (Cozy), and [[Skye]] (Lily).{{User:Ok/sig}} 14:23, March 15, 2019 (EDT)
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You see, Yale romanization and Jyutping are two of the things that I considered. Yale seems to be used in a certain NIWA sites that I know of, like Bulbapedia, and some of the spellings here are Yale-esque. On other side, Jyutping is considered to be newer, and sites like Wiktionary seems to be fond of using it. I'll give some examples for comparison, but I'm taking cues from a certain pinyin converter, so I'm not 100% sure if it's accurate, but here goes:
  
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: I'm not sure if you'll be back anytime soon [[User:Ok|Ok]], but even with an undergraduate degree in linguistics I have to defer to your professional opinion on this. :P Please make whatever changes you feel are necessary to standardize the rōmaji. If you keep the user page at [[User:Ok/Rōmaji Standard]] updated with the guidelines you are using I'll make sure they are (eventually) incorporated into Nookipedia's future manual of style. Your work on this has been very helpful and we can't thank you enough. *throws confetti* [[File:Sunmarshsignature.png|link=User:Sunmarsh]] '''<small><span style="font-variant:small-caps">([[User_talk:Sunmarsh|<span style="color:#7B7B7B">talk</span>]])</span></small>''' 02:10, June 6, 2019 (EDT)
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'''Blathers (傅達)'''<br>
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Yale romanization: fuh daaht<br>
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== Multiple colors or HHA themes in tables ==
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'''Brewster (老闆)'''<br>
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Yale romanization: lóuh báan<br>
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In {{NL|nolink}}, every clothing and furniture item has two colors, which may or may not be the same and may have up to three HHA themes. However, the treatment of both of these in tables here is not consistent. When the colors are different, they are represented in a table separated by a slash:{{Clear}}
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'''Isabelle (西施惠)'''<br>
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"{{Black}} / {{Blue}}"{{Clear}}
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Yale romanization: sāi sī waih<br>
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When an item has multiple HHA themes, they are separated by either slashes, commas, ampersands, or only spaces:{{Clear}}
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Now, I've been thinking three options. Option A is to have Yale romanization being used entirely, or Option B where Jyutping is used in all the pages. There's also Option C where Yale and Jyutping romanization being used side by side, even though I'm not sure if infoboxes would allow two of them. Or is there another way to do it? And what do you guys think? Please respond kindly, thanks. <span style="background:linear-gradient(0deg,blue,cyan); -webkit-background-clip:text !important; -webkit-text-fill-color:transparent;">'''''[[User:Starry Windy|Starry Windy]]'''''</span>[[User talk:Starry Windy|<span style="color:gold">★</span>]] 11:15, January 3, 2024 (EST)
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"Antique / Rustic" or "Antique, Rustic" or "Antique & Rustic" or "Antique Rustic"
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:I'm down to changing how we do romanizations in general. A thing that bothers me is that there aren't many good sites out there that can get us accurate romanizations for Japanese, Korean, and Chinese (like any of them really). Definitely a goal to be made when Project Languages comes into fruition. -- [[User:PanchamBro|PanchamBro]] ([[User talk:PanchamBro|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/PanchamBro|contributions]]) 07:36, January 6, 2024 (EST)
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::Actually, I think Chinese romanizations are pretty much standardized. For Simplified Chinese, we often use [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pinyin Hanyu Pinyin] which is widely used in Mainland China and Singapore according to Wikipedia, and is considered the international standard. And I'm pretty sure we've used this one in practically all articles that has it. Other notable romanizations include [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gwoyeu_Romatzyh Gwoyeu Romatzyh] which was used back then but rarely so nowadays, and also Wade-Giles and Yale.
  
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On the discord, Decomposer and I discussed forming a standard for these tables. We would like to propose that slashes always be used to separate both colors and HHA themes, without ever using "(x2)." I think that this will make tables look the most clean and consistent. Examples of the proposed standard follow.{{Clear}}
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::Speaking of Yale, it has two kinds of romanizations, one for Mandarin and [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yale_romanization_of_Cantonese one for Cantonese]. The latter apparently is still widely used, it's systematic in how things are spelled, which somehow almost mirrors Hanyu Pinyin in some ways. Apart from Yale, I also think of [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jyutping Jyutping] as systematic spelling. And I haven't even get started on [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cantonese_Pinyin Cantonese Pinyin], which is a real deal as well. Things to note, the reason I'm not sure on how accurate the Cantonese romanizations are is simply because I didn't learn much on Cantonese yet. <span style="background:linear-gradient(0deg,blue,cyan); -webkit-background-clip:text !important; -webkit-text-fill-color:transparent;">'''''[[User:Starry Windy|Starry Windy]]'''''</span>[[User talk:Starry Windy|<span style="color:gold">★</span>]] 08:45, January 6, 2024 (EST)
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"{{Black}} / {{Blue}}" or "{{Black}} / {{Black}}"{{Clear}}
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:::It's moreso the fact that it's harder to find sites that can auto-romanize them, but I do feel it's important to have someone experienced with that language to handle that romanization. -- [[User:PanchamBro|PanchamBro]] ([[User talk:PanchamBro|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/PanchamBro|contributions]]) 08:48, January 6, 2024 (EST)
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"Antique" or "Antique / Rustic" or "Antique / Harmonious / Rustic"{{Clear}}
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::::Well, I do found one site for it. For the examples I gave above, I was taking reference from [https://hongkongvision.com/tool/cc_py_conv_en this site], and I find the spelling for [[Marina]] was a 100% match. It's from this site that I knew Bulbapedia used Yale spelling, too. Still, I also agreed that we need someone experienced on Cantonese, too. <span style="background:linear-gradient(0deg,blue,cyan); -webkit-background-clip:text !important; -webkit-text-fill-color:transparent;">'''''[[User:Starry Windy|Starry Windy]]'''''</span>[[User talk:Starry Windy|<span style="color:gold">★</span>]] 08:55, January 6, 2024 (EST)
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[[User:Ok|Ok]] ([[User talk:Ok|talk]]) 20:24, February 28, 2019 (EST)Ok
 
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:Note: the standard for colors would also apply to furniture tables from all games from Wild World onwards. In the previous games, furniture only has one type of Feng Shui, so no separators are needed. [[User:Ok|Ok]] ([[User talk:Ok|talk]]) 20:33, February 28, 2019 (EST)
 
  
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Following this one up. I mentioned in the [[Nookipedia:Discord|Discord]] that [[List of yellow furniture items]] and [[List of green furniture items]] use different styles. The lack of some Nookipedia Manual of Style is most likely to blame. While this inconsistency can be mitigated by changing the tables right now (preferably parsing through regex), a MOS could be drafted to prevent more inconsistencies in the future. {{User:Decomposer/sig}} 07:28, March 5, 2019 (EST)
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== A new Project? ==
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*I agree with making a MOS. There are already a few style policies at [[Nookipedia:Policy]], but it would be nice to have more standards established, and a place to reference for editors to reference.  --[[User:Ok|Ok]] ([[User talk:Ok|talk]]) 09:32, March 5, 2019 (EST)
 
  
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== Hats and accessories ==
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Idea: Project Languages! It would be centered around interwiki links and modifying the villagers' articles to make them more... accessible for those who don't speak English, such as links to the [https://animalcrossing.wikidex.net/wiki/Portada Spanish] and [https://animalcrossingwiki.de/ German] Animal Crossing wikis, and... More details in other languages than just the names, such as the photo quotes and catchphrases. You know, make the wiki more open to people who don't speak English. '''''[[User:Briky|Briky]]'''''[[File:Emotion Greetings NH Icon.png|30px]] 16:37, January 6, 2024 (EST)
  
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Does anyone have any opinions on what's the best thing to do with the [[Headgear]] and [[Accessories]] articles? Liquefy's WW and CF guides consider headgear to be part of the accessories category, but in NL they are completely separate categories. The articles for headgear and accessories on Nookipedia are also very similar to each other, and I'm surprised they haven't been merged before now. [[User:Drago|<span style="font-family:Coustard;color:green">Drago</span>]] [[User talk:Drago|<span style="font-family:Coustard;color:purple">(talk)</span>]]    [[File:Drago PC icon.png|20px]] 13:09, April 3, 2019 (EDT)
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I actually just looked at the [[Nookipedia_talk:The_Roost#Non-English_names_as_redirects.2Fdisambiguation_pages|top post]] here, so maybe we could combine this with that? And I ''also'' saw an idea that comes from 2021 on the [[Nookipedia_talk:Projects|Projects talk page]]: Something called "Project Linguistics". Well, if it's okay for the creator of the original idea, I think I've found the name for this project! '''''[[User:Briky|Briky]]'''''[[File:Emotion Greetings NH Icon.png|30px]] 16:43, January 6, 2024 (EST)
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:Afaik you can wear both an accessory and a headgear in WW and CF, making them separate things. Regarding the articles themselves, I'd suggest moving all descriptions (on what each article is) to [[Clothes]], since they're sufficiently short. Regarding the listing of items, an article "List of clothing articles in ''some game''" could be done, including tops, bottoms, headgear, and accessories. [[User:Decomposer|<span style="font-family:'Noto Sans', sans; color:#789922">&gt;Decomposer</span>]] [[File:Emotion Icon - Curiosity (NL) cropped.png|x20px|link=User talk:Decomposer]] [[File:Emotion Icon - Pride (NL) cropped.png|x20px|link=Special:Contributions/Decomposer]] 02:44, April 4, 2019 (EDT)
 
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::I really like this idea and I will probably go ahead with it if no-one else opposes! [[User:Drago|<span style="font-family:Coustard;color:green">Drago</span>]] [[User talk:Drago|<span style="font-family:Coustard;color:purple">(talk)</span>]]    [[File:Drago PC icon.png|20px]] 10:56, April 4, 2019 (EDT)
 
  
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: NL, at least, does separate the two in Able Sisters; headgear is sold in the back while accessories are sold on the right. In WW and CF, accessories use head mannequins to display while headgear does not. Also, they have different inventory icons: accessories have a glasses icon, and headgear has either a hat icon if an accessory can be worn at the same time, or a helmet icon otherwise. This kinda suggests to me that there could just as easily be a three-way distinction, but it is never referenced explicitly other than in the icon as far as I know. In any case, I'm not opposed to merging them into clothes.{{User:Ok/sig}} 21:05, April 5, 2019 (EDT)
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==Possible Incorrect Genre for the Wild World Rubber Plant==
  
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Hi there! I've been playing Animal Crossing: Wild World quite a lot lately and had a villager that was into collecting Old-school furniture. The [[Item:Rubber_tree_(Wild_World)|Rubber Plant]] was in Nook's store and is on the old-school list, so I grabbed it. When I gave the villager the rubber plant, he rejected it saying it's not old-school. He refused to take it when I tried again. I'm not sure which genre it's supposed to be corrected to though. (Sorry if I'm doing this the wrong way, I'm new!)
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[[User:MadRayne|MadRayne]] ([[User talk:MadRayne|talk]]) 16:21, January 8, 2024 (EST)
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:It looks like all the items in the [[House Plant Set]] had incorrect genres; they have all been corrected to Chic. All the genres are now taken directly from the game's files, so there shouldn't be any more errors. Thank you for pointing this out! '''~'''&nbsp;[[User:AlexBot2004|<span style="font-family:Coustard;color:#1C662A">'''AlexBot2004'''</span>]]&nbsp;([[User talk:AlexBot2004|<span style="font-family:Coustard;color:black">Talk</span>]]) 14:45, January 9, 2024 (EST)
  
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I feel that characters following you around should be mentioned on the wiki. [[Tom Nook]], [[Timmy and Tommy]], [[Mabel]], [[Reese]], [[Leif]], and [[Redd]] all follow you around their respective shops. [[Gracie]] also does this, but walks slower than the player's max walking speed (not running), unlike these aforementioned characters. In [[T&T Emporium]], on the first floor, Leif will only follow you if you're in the bounds of the Garden corner, and Tommy will only follow you if you are anywhere else, except the section directly north of the garden corner that houses the Kiosk. These characters do not follow you when the ticket gates are open. In addition, [[Isabelle]] will follow you if you choose a PWP to set up, Tom Nook will follow you when you're deciding where to put your house/tent, and [[Katie]] will follow you if you tell her you'd like to take her to another town. Villagers can also follow you when they want to visit your house or want you to visit their house, and they can also be escorted to another villager's house if said other villager asks you to fetch them. Along with all this, in {{WW}}, on a day when Lyle appears outside the player's house, he'll follow them around as long as they're within the vincinity of their house. [[User:AgentParadox|AgentParadox]] ([[User talk:AgentParadox|talk]]) 00:21, April 25, 2019 (EDT)
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== Userbox question ==
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:It doesn't seem THAT notable to me, but maybe it could be mentioned on the individual character articles (and the [[Favors]] page for the villager stuff). [[User:Drago|<span style="font-family:Coustard;color:green">Drago</span>]] [[User talk:Drago|<span style="font-family:Coustard;color:purple">(talk)</span>]]    [[File:Drago PC icon.png|20px]] 11:41, April 25, 2019 (EDT)
 
  
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Hiya im Ceariah im new to the wiki. Just a question how do you make a userbox? [[User:Ceariah|Ceariah]] ([[User talk:Ceariah|talk]]) 06:25, January 21, 2024 (EST)
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:You can go to the [[Userbox]] page to find some userboxes and a guide on how to use them. Have a good day and welcome to Nookipedia! '''''[[User:Briky|Briky]]''''' [[File:Emotion Greetings NH Icon.png|30px|If you know how to make this link to my talk page, please tell me!]] 12:28, January 24, 2024 (EST)
  
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[https://animalcrossingwiki.de Animal Crossing Wiki (De)], a German-based AC Wiki licensed under [https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-sa/4.0/ CC BY-SA 4.0], has had a wonderful job on uploading photos for ''Wild World'' and ''City Folk''. For example, their [https://animalcrossingwiki.de/acww/katalog/einrichtung Wild World Einrichtungsgegenstände] (Catalog) contains a list of all furniture available in ''Wild World'' with images, while admittedly lacking other information. Is it possible for Nookipedia to reupload such images and attribute Animal Crossing Wiki (since Nookipedia is CC BY-SA 3.0) while licensing the images using [[Template:Game sprite]]? And, following up, is said template the proper one to use in this context, since they are technically screenshots from the catalog screen? [[User:Decomposer|<span style="font-family:'Noto Sans', sans; color:#789922">&gt;Decomposer</span>]] [[File:Emotion Icon - Curiosity (NL) cropped.png|x20px|link=User talk:Decomposer]] [[File:Emotion Icon - Pride (NL) cropped.png|x20px|link=Special:Contributions/Decomposer]] 09:12, April 28, 2019 (EDT)
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== i got a black rose by accident ==
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:(copying over from Discord, for reference's sake) Since they're sprites from the game, the copyright ultimately belongs to Nintendo and is still considered copyrighted, even if someone else did the ripping / cropped out the background. I'd upload the photos under the fair use license template, and have the source as animalcrossingwiki.de. <b>~<i>[[User:SuperHamster|<span style="color:#07517C;">Super</span>]]</i>[[User:SuperHamster|<span style="color:#6FA23B;">Hamster</span>]]</b> <small>[[User talk:SuperHamster|Talk]]</small> 01:04, May 9, 2019 (EDT)
 
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I have all the images already, but I am wondering whether it would be wise to add spacing (padding) or upload them as is. As follows is a demonstration of them being used in [[Template:TableContent]]:
 
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I am just thinking of doing the latter. Related to this, is it possible to be permitted to write a script using the Nookipedia API to upload and add descriptions for WW furniture icons (considering it's unfeasible to upload 578 photos manually)? [[Nookipedia:Block_policy#Bots|Current policy]] forbids doing so. [[User:Decomposer|<span style="font-family:'Noto Sans', sans; color:#789922">&gt;Decomposer</span>]] [[File:Emotion Icon - Curiosity (NL) cropped.png|x20px|link=User talk:Decomposer]] [[File:Emotion Icon - Pride (NL) cropped.png|x20px|link=Special:Contributions/Decomposer]] 06:00, June 2, 2019 (EDT)
 
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:The demo here looks better without padding, so I'd go with that. [[User:Drago|<span style="font-family:Coustard;color:green">Drago</span>]] [[User talk:Drago|<span style="font-family:Coustard;color:purple">(talk)</span>]]    [[File:Drago PC icon.png|20px]] 11:19, June 2, 2019 (EDT)
 
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:I don't mean to be contrarian, but I like the padded version better as it is similar to the HHD Icons. If you end up having to upload manually let me know and I'll help. That's how I uploaded the HHD Icons... *eyes gloss over* [[File:Sunmarshsignature.png|link=User:Sunmarsh]] '''<small><span style="font-variant:small-caps">([[User_talk:Sunmarsh|<span style="color:#7B7B7B">talk</span>]])</span></small>''' 01:33, June 6, 2019 (EDT)
 
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<del>I'll probably not include padding for now, believing that the table looks better without it. Caution must be exercised when inserting them to tables; it is best to be consistent on image size.</del> Regarding uploading, I'm currently researching on scripting that could automate the upload and add descriptions (e.g., <code>Sprite of ??? from {{WW}}. Taken from (link).</code>) and categories to each image, but a staff member ought to run it. I'll put it here once done. [[User:Decomposer|<span style="font-family:'Noto Sans', sans; color:#789922">&gt;Decomposer</span>]] [[File:Emotion Icon - Curiosity (NL) cropped.png|x20px|link=User talk:Decomposer]] [[File:Emotion Icon - Pride (NL) cropped.png|x20px|link=Special:Contributions/Decomposer]] 02:27, June 14, 2019 (EDT)
 
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:Actually I should include padding to make them within a 128x128 PNG so that they may be inserted gracefully (c.f.: [[:File:Barbel steed (City Folk).png]], which are already enclosed in a "badge"), although this may take a while. [[User:Decomposer|<span style="font-family:'Noto Sans', sans; color:#789922">&gt;Decomposer</span>]] [[File:Emotion Icon - Curiosity (NL) cropped.png|x20px|link=User talk:Decomposer]] [[File:Emotion Icon - Pride (NL) cropped.png|x20px|link=Special:Contributions/Decomposer]] 10:02, June 29, 2019 (EDT)
 
  
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==Creation of subcategories for <nowiki>[[Category:(game) Images]]</nowiki>==
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woke up today to find a black rose, which surprised me because i don't even have a special red rose (i think), which you get by crossing a purple and an orange. i don't even have a purple rose anywhere in my town, only way i can see this happening is if theres another way to create a special red rose.
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Just a heads up: I have created some subcategories, such as [[:Category:Animal Crossing: Wild World furniture icons]] and [[:Category:Animal Crossing (GCN) screenshots]]; the latter one has been deleted. It is believed to be a better choice to use said categories instead of lumping everything in [[:Category:Animal Crossing: Wild World Images]] and [[:Category: Animal Crossing (GCN) Images]]. [[User:Decomposer|<span style="font-family:'Noto Sans', sans; color:#789922">&gt;Decomposer</span>]] [[File:Emotion Icon - Curiosity (NL) cropped.png|x20px|link=User talk:Decomposer]] [[File:Emotion Icon - Pride (NL) cropped.png|x20px|link=Special:Contributions/Decomposer]] 06:00, June 2, 2019 (EDT)
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[[File:NL Unintended Black Rose.png|thumb]]
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:Nice one, they do need splitting! [[User:Drago|<span style="font-family:Coustard;color:green">Drago</span>]] [[User talk:Drago|<span style="font-family:Coustard;color:purple">(talk)</span>]]   [[File:Drago PC icon.png|20px]] 11:19, June 2, 2019 (EDT)
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[[Category:Active discussions]] --[[User:Erick7477719|Erick7477719]] ([[User talk:Erick7477719|talk]]) 10:42, February 28, 2024 (EST)  
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:There is a chance that breeding red roses will give you a black rose. At least you got one! [[User:DriftveilBread|DriftveilBread]] ([[User talk:DriftveilBread|talk]]) 12:53, March 21, 2024 (EDT)
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::Water the black rose with a gold watering can and you might get a gold rose! [[File:Animal Crossing Leaf.png|20px]] [[User:Acnh Player|Acnh Player]] ([[User talk:Acnh Player|talk]]) [[File:Animal Crossing Leaf.png|20px]] 11:40, April 9, 2024 (EDT)
  
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==If I find vandalism, where should I report it?==  
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Would lists like [[Fish/Animal_Crossing:_Wild_World]] be better off renamed as [[Fish/Wild_World]] for brevity? More of these can be found in [[:Category:Lists]]. I am also thinking of creating subpages such as [[Fish/Wild World/January]] to be transcluded into pages found in [[:Category:Months]]. [[User:Decomposer|<span style="font-family:'Noto Sans', sans; color:#789922">&gt;Decomposer</span>]] [[File:Emotion Icon - Curiosity (NL) cropped.png|x20px|link=User talk:Decomposer]] [[File:Emotion Icon - Pride (NL) cropped.png|x20px|link=Special:Contributions/Decomposer]] 10:02, June 29, 2019 (EDT)
 
  
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== Proposal to remove all content about hacking ==
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Where do I report users? [[User:Acnh Player|Acnh Player]] ([[User talk:Acnh Player|talk]]) 23:55, March 24, 2024 (EDT)
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:[[Nookipedia:Staff noticeboard]] is the best place on-wiki. '''~[[User:SuperHamster|''<span style="color:#07517C;">Super</span>''<span style="color:#6FA23B;">Hamster</span>]]''' <small>[[User talk:SuperHamster|Talk]] [[Special:Contribs/SuperHamster|Contribs]]</small> 00:07, March 25, 2024 (EDT)
  
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Continuing on from the discussion on [[Talk:Hacking]], I've gone away and thought about whether we should cover the aforementioned topic, and I've decided to propose that we '''remove all content about hacking''' from Nookipedia. Programs such as Action Replay, GameShark, ACToolkit, etc., are not made or endorsed by Nintendo and therefore unofficial. As Decomposer said in the discussion linked above, this information falls outside our scope and shouldn't really be covered on Nookipedia. And then you've got the argument that including hacking content could make it more likely that someone's game will get damaged (even though we're not going to be held responsible for that).
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== Memes ==
  
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If this proposal goes ahead, affected articles would include [[Hacking]], [[Hacked villager]], [[Cheating device]], [[Seeds (hacking)]], [[Chestnut]], and [[Villager modifier]]. I am ''not'' proposing that we remove other cheats such as time traveling and Universal Codes which don't require hacking. That would be for a separate discussion. Also, the [[Nookipedia:Cheat policy|cheat policy]] and [[Nookipedia:Policy|general policy]] would need to be updated of course.
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Should users be allowed to post meme images related to animal crossing here? Vote underneath. [[File:ACL.png|20px]] [[User:Acnh Player|<span style="font-family:Coustard;color:#448EE4">'''Acnh Player'''</span>]] [[User talk:Acnh Player|<span style="font-family:Coustard;color:#1C662A">'''(talk)'''</span>]] [[File:ACL.png|20px]] 18:51, April 11, 2024 (EDT)
  
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So, should the subject of hacking be removed from Nookipedia or should it stay? Start the argument below! [[User:Drago|<span style="font-family:Coustard;color:green">Drago</span>]] [[User talk:Drago|<span style="font-family:Coustard;color:purple">(talk)</span>]]    [[File:Drago PC icon.png|20px]] 13:53, July 23, 2019 (EDT)
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:No. [[User:Trig Jegman|Trig Jegman]] - 00:31, April 12, 2024 (EDT)
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:{{Oppose}} Sorry, but it's too off-topic for a website that has dedicated itself to making an encyclopedia about Animal Crossing. There's a channel on [[Nookipedia:Discord]] that is much more suitable for memes. [[User:Drago|<span style="font-family:Coustard;color:green">Drago</span>]] [[User talk:Drago|<span style="font-family:Coustard;color:purple">(talk)</span>]]    [[File:Drago PC Villager Icon.png|20px]] 11:12, April 12, 2024 (EDT)
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::I said "'''''Related to'''''" animal crossing. [[File:ACL.png|20px]] [[User:Acnh Player|<span style="font-family:Coustard;color:#448EE4">'''Acnh Player'''</span>]] [[User talk:Acnh Player|<span style="font-family:Coustard;color:#1C662A">'''(talk)'''</span>]] [[File:ACL.png|20px]] 11:14, April 12, 2024 (EDT)
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:::They still wouldn't have any use on articles though. You could maybe upload them as personal images if they're not inappropriate. [[User:Drago|<span style="font-family:Coustard;color:green">Drago</span>]] [[User talk:Drago|<span style="font-family:Coustard;color:purple">(talk)</span>]]    [[File:Drago PC Villager Icon.png|20px]] 11:19, April 12, 2024 (EDT)
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:::If you're referring to a mainspace page that does allow ''Animal Crossing'' meme images, the closest thing would be the "Pop-culture phenomena" section on the "[[List of Animal Crossing references in other media]]" page, but I feel a meme should have widespread notability to be listed on that page lest it be severely bloated with unnoteworthy memes. [[File:Snapping Turtle NH Icon.png|25px]]'''The [[User:The Jacketed Terrapin|<span style="color: blue;">Jacketed</span>]] [[User talk:The Jacketed Terrapin|<span style="color: green;">Terrapin</span>]]'''[[File:Soft-Shelled Turtle NH Icon.png|25px]] 20:02, April 12, 2024 (EDT)
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::::How about if you want to post memes it has to be approved by a staff first. [[File:ACL.png|20px]] [[User:Acnh Player|<span style="font-family:Coustard;color:#448EE4">'''Acnh Player'''</span>]] [[User talk:Acnh Player|<span style="font-family:Coustard;color:#1C662A">'''(talk)'''</span>]] [[File:ACL.png|20px]] 20:17, April 12, 2024 (EDT)

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Specific tasks
  • Our villager pages could use house descriptions. At the top of villager house sections, add a description describing common themes and changes to the villager's house throughout the series. Examples available on Eunice and Alfonso.
  • Add "Appearance" sections to our New Horizons wallpaper and floor pages to describe what they look like. Example at Underwater Wall. Screenshots of all walls and floors located here and here, respectively.
  • Restructure and populate our fossil pages with info for Animal Crossing, Wild World, City Folk, and New Leaf using our new fossil info templates. Our New Horizons info is already complete - see Brachiosaurus for an example for how to replicate.
  • Work on our Pocket Camp coverage; visit Project Pocket Camp for more info. Coverage needed includes Gyroidite Scavenger Events, fortune cookie sets, Happy Homeroom puzzles, and memories.
  • Our merchandise coverage needs lots of expansion! Help expand our existing lists and create new ones using the {{MerchSeries}} and {{MerchCell}} templates.
  • Add "Characteristics" sections to our special character pages. See Redd#Characteristics for an example.
  • Write a synopsis for Pocket Camp memories. Be sure to remove the {{Stub}} template from the Synopsis section when completed in order to remove the article from this list.
Pocket Camp Memory pages that need a synopsis:
  A Glowing Idea
  A Minor Mail Mishap
  A Musical Shrine Visit
  A New Queen of Hearts
  A Pizza Party for Ketchup!
  A Rivalry to Remember
  A Scenic Sakura Treat
  A Shared House
  A Sweet and Sour Surprise!
  A Weekend with Agnes
  Alfonso's Ideal Campsite
  Almost the Ocean
  An Amusing Park Haunting
  An Extra Spooky Surprise
  An Irresistible Nap
  An Unexpected Taste Test!
  Apollo's Feature Film
  Aspiring Santa
  Beach Sport Rentals & Recs
  Beau's Bakery
  Beauty by Pancetti
  Behold Bonbon's Bunny Park
  Belles and Spells at the Ball
  Bianca's Gift Delivery
  Bob's Back Under the Big Top
  Bree's Passion for Fashion
  Capturing Precious Memories
  Carrie's Family Recipe
  Celia's First Gig
  Cheery Donut Shop
  Chief's Mysterious Magic
  Chrissy's Super Huge Tea Party!
  Colton's Prophetic Door
  Cookie's Popular Crepes
  Cozy White Toy Day
  Daisy's Strawberry Fever
  Detective Beardo's on the Case!
  Diana's Fay Flight
  Dobie's Hot Spring Village
  Dom's Dream Theme Park
  Dotty's Sophisticated Tea Party
  Dreamin' of Diners
  Ema Wishes
  Fang's Fine-Dining Rescue
  Flora's Tropical Pep-Plan
  Floral Notes with Friends
  Flowers Have Feelings Too
  Flurry's Gift of Music
  Flying Through Work
  Food Truck Festival!
  Frozen Fun with Hamlet
  Fuchia's Signature Dish
  Goldie's Catastrophic Cake
  Goldie's Library Lesson
  Greta's Creative Cookery
  Grizzly's Big Break
  Guided by the Stars
  Hopkins vs. Roald: A Friendly Competition
  How to Create the Ideal Room
  Inspiration for a Haiku
  Ione's River of Stars
  Isabelle Apprecation
  Julian's Constellation Creations
  Kevin and Cyd's Day-Off Dilemma
  Kiki's Curios
  Kitt's Plushie Project
  Kitty's Chocolate Twist
  Leopold's Mastery of Magic
  Lily and the Rainbow Hydrangea
  Little Red Riding Bunnie
  Lobo's Table for One
  Lovely Lighthouse Encounter
  Lyman's Beautiful Blooms
  Maelle's Exciting Mall Day!
  Maple's Secret Hideout
  Marina's Fish-Friend Concert
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Example topic[edit]

Post new topics below! Drago (talk) Drago PC Villager Icon.png 11:03, January 1, 2019 (EST)

Add internal name and ID regarding item[edit]

There's support to add the internal name/ID of items to the item pages. -- PanchamBro (talk • contributions) 10:44, February 29, 2024 (EST)
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Something that has been on my mind lately was adding internal name and ID regarding a particular item. For instance, the tulip table in Animal Crossing has the filename sum_poptable01 and the internal ID 126C. I believe having information on the item pages would be useful for dataminers, modders, and such if they wanted to inspect information regarding a particular item instead of having to waddle through loads of spreadsheet information. -- PanchamBro (talk • contributions) 09:26, January 29, 2023 (EST)

Support Support for the reasons you've given. --BladeofEvilsBane (talk) 10:36, January 29, 2023 (EST)
Support Support ~ AlexBot2004 (Talk) 14:58, January 29, 2023 (EST)
Support Support BrikyEmotion Greetings NH Icon.png 15:34, January 6, 2024 (EST)
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The animal emoji redirects[edit]

There doesn't seem to be a high demand to save the animals. The animal redirects shall be deleted. HylianAngel (talk) 20:43, February 16, 2023 (EST)
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Right now there are some emoji redirects involving the species pages. Currently these redirects exist: 🐂 🐊 🐒 🐕 🐦 🐵 🐶 🐺 🐻 🦍 They are kind of peculiar, and I can't really gauge if these would necessarily be useful. They're so silly that I wouldn't even mind keeping them. I had to do a double-take when I checked Wikipedia, and they actually utilize emoji redirects, so it seems like they potentially serve some sort of usefulness. But either way, we should either:

a. Complete the collection and create more redirects involving the remaining missing animal emojis from the species pages
b. Delete the existing animal emoji redirects.

What do you think? HylianAngel (talk) 02:28, February 6, 2023 (EST)

Very much against the use of animal emoji redirects. I just do not think they are reasonably used or feasibly searched. Trig - 02:07, February 10, 2023 (EST)
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New Project: Project Languages[edit]

I think we should start a project where we fill up the boxes with "unknown" in on templates. --Sylveon (Autistic and proud!)🍉🌺 08:53, February 17, 2023 (EST)

Currently, the major missing romanization on all articles, especially villager articles, is Traditional Chinese, as it was made a separate entry from Simplified Chinese. For Japanese, Korean, and Simplified Chinese (the mainland language of China), you can pretty much use Google Translate to obtain an acceptable romanization of the name. However, Traditional Chinese is a slightly more complicated subject to tackle.
I asked my Chinese friend if this Traditional Chinese romanization of Marina's name was correct, because it was so different from the Simplified Chinese romanization. Zhānglìnà vs. Jēung Laahp Nóh is crazy different, to me as an English-speaking person. But no, she mulled it for a few seconds and said, yep, the Traditional Chinese romanization in this situation is correct. Nookipedia is using the Hong Kong flag, which implies the dialect is Cantonese. I asked her to ignore the flag, and she said you can't do that, the flag matters. I told her that most other wikis, like Bulbapedia and WiKirby don't use flags, and they usually have it simply stated as "Simplified Chinese" and "Traditional Chinese" in written text without flags, and that they tend to make both of those romanizations identical. She said that's the wrong way to approach it, since you're basically erasing an entire dialect from existence by making the romanizations identical. I asked her, would it make sense to make the Traditional and Simplified Chinese romanizations the same if the flag was not there at all, and she said, yes, some dialects of Traditional Chinese would have identical romanization as Simplified Chinese, but that is why the flag is so important in this scenario because the Hong Kong flag implies the Cantonese dialect, and you shouldn't make the romanizations the same if it's the Hong Kong flag.
She also explained that China has been attempting to erase Cantonese for some time in order to make Simplified Chinese the main language. Another unfortunate aspect is that we wouldn't even be able to obtain any Cantonese Traditional Chinese romanizations on Nookipedia without the help of a Cantonese-speaking person, because Google Translate spits out identical romanizations for Simplified and Traditional Chinese anyways. So we have a major problem where the Hong Kong flag would be misleading if we were to copy-paste the Simplified Chinese romanizations to be the same as the Traditional Chinese romanizations, but if we were to decide to stick with Hong Kong/Cantonese, we probably will never have any Traditional Chinese romanizations ever, unless a Cantonese person decides to join and contribute for every page (and my Chinese friend does not know Cantonese). HylianAngel (talk) 16:13, February 17, 2023 (EST)
I may not know much about Cantonese at the moment, but I've been thinking about it considering that it has several romanizations that could be used here. I'm pretty sure Bulbapedia used Yale romanization for Cantonese, but on the other hand, there's also Jyutping romanization. If we can get some pointers on which of these romanizations should be used here, it would be a good start. Not to mention, the example of Marina earlier on seems to be using Yale's. Starry Windy★ 23:05, November 29, 2023 (EST)

Villager Quotes[edit]

Hi! I am new to being an editor, but recently I noticed Nookipedia doesn't do individual quotes for villagers, something the Animal Crossing Wiki does do. I've been adding quotes for a few villagers, but not too many. I wanted to garner some support before I continue to do more. I know most quotes are similar within personality, but there are some, like picture quotes, that are individual to certain villagers. I think this could be really cool to do for every villager, because the rest of the villager page isn't very personalized at all. Plus, sometimes, people only need the page to look for the picture quote, and putting it at the top of the page could be useful. I think it would be fun for the editors, and readers, to mix it up a little. So, community, do you have an opinion? Should I keep going? Omigpine11 (talk) 17:59, March 11, 2023 (EST)Omigpine11

Although photo quotes are "unique dialogue" involving the villager, I feel it is not needed to include it at the top of the page, since this info is available within the infobox ("favorite saying"), which is very close to the top of the page already. If a reader only needs the photo quote, they already have easy access. These quotes are also located on the Photo page. I personally Oppose Oppose adding photo quotes to the top of villager pages. However, I Support Support adding quotes on villager pages in cases where it is in-game dialogue completely exclusive to the villager. These cases are rare, but some cases do occur in New Horizons involving very specific species-personality combos (where there is only 1 villager who is that species-personality, like Wendy the peppy sheep, on Year of the Sheep). While it's not really from the game, I agree with the Alfonso quote you added from the official NH website, since it is indeed completely unique. HylianAngel (talk) 18:25, March 11, 2023 (EST)
Actually HylianAngel, the top quote on Alfonso's page is a quote lazy villagers say in New Horizons, just that "This place" is replaced with whatever you named your island. Just a warning that the source I am about to provide does contain some very crude language, but it's the only proof I was able to find of the quote being used in-game, so please bear with me on this one (quote is on the 4th pic): https://imgflip.com/i/43nbpn
That being said, I don't really mind it being Alfonso's top quote since the website does make that association. Snapping Turtle NH Icon.pngThe Jacketed TerrapinSoft-Shelled Turtle NH Icon.png 18:31, March 11, 2023 (EST)
Thanks, I should have worded it more clearly that it's a unique association. I did remember the dialogue from playing NH, so saying "completely unique" was not entirely correct when I was trying to convey my reasoning. HylianAngel (talk) 18:34, March 11, 2023 (EST)
I wanted to mention that I went ahead and added the unique dialogue involving New Year's Day for unique species-personality combos to the "Trivia" sections of the involved pages, but only for bulls/cows (2021), tigers (2022), and rabbits (2023). So this would be Coach, Norma, Patty, Rolf, Claudia, Gaston, Coco, and Mira.
I didn't add the dialogue for future years yet, which would be horses (2026), sheep (2027), monkeys (2028), birds (2029), dogs (2030), pigs (2031), and mice (2032). Actually, from reading the dialogue files, it's unclear if Year of the Rooster (2029) will apply to all bird-related species (birds, ducks, eagles, ostriches, penguins, and chickens), a subset of these bird species, or just chickens themselves. The dialogue specifically says "Year of the Bird," or "Year of the Rooster," depending on the personality type of the speaking villager, but mostly these dialogues state "Year of the Bird." Unless someone time travels to 2029 and checks each species, or unless a dataminer could examine the code, it probably won't be known. Anyways, I felt it would make sense to just add the dialogue for 2021-2023 and not the future years yet. However, I wouldn't be against adding the future years either. HylianAngel (talk) 07:14, March 12, 2023 (EDT)

Villager catchphrases[edit]

I strongly believe that villager pages should have a dedicated section to their catchphrases in each language, in the same style as their given name in the "Names in other languages" section. Currently there is not a good place to describe the meaning of a villager's foreign catchphrases, so there are cases where the Japanese catchphrase holds some relevance to the character, but since there is no decent section to place it, it is instead placed at the top of the page, where it sits next to any relevant English given name and English catchphrase origin information. That location is somewhat awkward, since it's inconsistent to have the English given name, the English catchphrase, no Japanese given name (since Japanese name info is generally placed in the "Names in other languages" section), and then the Japanese catchphrase.

If there was a dedicated section for catchphrases in other languages, it would not only allow describing any Japanese catchphrase relevance, but also the relevance of catchphrases of every other language as well, and there is currently no location to place non-English or non-Japanese catchphrase relevancy information. Basic "names in other languages" and "catchphrases in other languages" data exists in the infobox, and yet only the "names in other languages" is duplicated at the bottom of the page. I believe both should be at the bottom of the page.

While the main article header would be "Names in other languages," there are 2 different formatting styles that could be implemented:

  • The sub-headers are the words "Given name" and "Catchphrase."
    • Optionally and additionally, in combination with this style so that the name and catchphrase are extremely explicit, a parameter for the English name can be included, like how Fire Emblem Wiki does it (example here). While it might be currently redundant with the English information included in the intro prose, I think it's fine for there to be redundant information, as many villager pages already do repeat redundant information (like the infobox repeating the foreign names information), and it can serve a very useful utility purpose if intros are ever repurposed to no longer include English name/catchphrase origins. Plus, it would allow for future "favorite sayings" English explanations, which no intros do unless it's related to the character's identity/species somehow, but I feel this would be good information to include no matter what.
  • The sub-headers are the character's actual name and catchphrase, like for example Sherb, the sub-headers would be "Sherb" and "bawwww."

I'm also open to other suggestions for the formatting style. I'm slightly partial to the first style, just because there might be a case where "favorite sayings" are also given their own dedicated section in the future, and the full saying might be weird as a header. What formatting do you think would be best? HylianAngel (talk) 14:50, April 4, 2023 (EDT), edited again on 16:11, April 22, 2023 (EDT)

I caught the spirit!![edit]

I caught farley!! ~SylveonSig.png 08:51, April 11, 2023 (EDT)

Trig Jegman's File Template[edit]

As I am sure you have seen, I've been working on the creation and generation of my file module for Nookipedia. The time is now to suggest that it is used instead of the existing Template:File Info.

First, to be explicitly clear, this module would work the same as a template to the degree that I have made sure everything will retroactively work on it. Nothing would break by the implementation of the module.

Second: My module is a lot beefier than the existing template is now. Here's the main takeaways:

  • Combined licensing. No more need for having 33 different licensing templates, when the module will take care of all of them collectively.
  • More maintenance parameters and a closer analysis of sourcing. There are several maintenance features included, such as files taken from FANDOM sources or YouTube.
  • Predesignated sources for when the user captures an image themself.
  • Automatic categorization. This is the big one: Through the introduction of two new parameters (game and type), files will now automatically be categorized into their appropriate categories, making widescale changes easier and formatting more consistent.
  • This is an excellent opportunity to look at all of the files on site and reduce duplicates, fix naming, improve quality, and get specific sources amongst other tasks.

I wouldn't propose this if I didn't have great success in implementing this before. I have completely added this style of template to every single file on WiKirby, Wars Wiki, Inkipedia, MiiWiki, The Cycle: Frontier, as well as partial completion on Mystery Dungeon Francise Wiki, FamiWiki, and StrategyWiki. I've done it before and I'm more than happy to do it again to get this implemented. I really think that having this upgrade is a valuable resource and helps create consistency both on this site and in conjunction with other wikis as well. I have a few examples of use cases here to understand what it might look like. The new parameters are the following:

  • Game — Allows an automatic link to a game, and can work to add automatic categories.
  • Type/Meta — These two pull from a determined list of common types (such as Artwork, Screenshots, Amiibo, or User Files) in order to automatically categorize files. The difference between type and meta is that type will categorize based off the game entry (New Leaf sprites), meta will only do off the type (Sprites).
  • User — Used for user files or when attributing the source to someone else.
  • Author — At the suggestion/request of Shams, useful for creative commons files.
  • License — All those licensing templates are here now
  • Fandom/Youtube — By setting these to yes, it places files taken from these less than desirable locations into a maintenance category for replacement.

I'm happy to make more examples, or give breakdowns of how I would go about fixing these, or answer any questions about it. Please let me know how you feel about implementing it on Nookipedia as well! Trig - 13:22, June 28, 2023 (EDT)

Support Support - Everything here looks great! The combined licensing and automatic categorization are especially welcome additions; I can't think of anything at the moment that I'd add or change. ~ AlexBot2004 (Talk) 01:08, July 6, 2023 (EDT)
Support Support I think this could work. I do believe though that if we agree on this more, we should set up a proposal to implement. -- PanchamBro (talk • contributions) 16:41, September 5, 2023 (EDT)

New Horizons villager box item capitalization[edit]

PanchamBro's bot fixed the capitalization of New Horizons items on almost all villager pages, but since Jacob/Jakey and Spork/Crackle have 2 different names, I think the bot skipped over those two. Making a note here that it needs to eventually be fixed, don't have time to fix it myself at the moment. HylianAngel (talk) 15:51, July 29, 2023 (EDT)

This should be fixed now! -- PanchamBro (talk • contributions) 01:05, August 2, 2023 (EDT)
Thank you! HylianAngel (talk) 20:51, August 4, 2023 (EDT)

wanna join my club???[edit]

it is called bob fan club - unsigned comment from FroggyPotter (talk • contribs)

Sure. Thanks, --SunsetBay (Talk) Margie NL Villager Icon.png 05:31, September 5, 2023 (EDT)

Help with Cargo Tables[edit]

Are there any resources to help figure out how they work? If not can some please explain them to me? TheMajesticPineapple (talk) 22:56, August 24, 2023 (EDT)

Here are a couple of resources:
My personal understanding of it is that the gist of it is that you'll have a template for a type of page with a bunch of input fields. In the template you say that inputs in those fields get stored in a big behind-the-scenes table. You can then create a cargo query table to list specific stuff from that big table on any page you want. For better understanding the template side of things it helps to look at templates that use cargo, and for cargo query tables it helps to look at and compare different pages that use different cargo queries. Hope this helps a bit! Bassieeee (talk) 07:19, August 25, 2023 (EDT)
Thank you so much, I couldn't find anything on them anywhere.
TheMajesticPineapple (talk) 09:30, August 25, 2023 (EDT)
Nookipedia:Project Database has some good information on cargo tables, and we have a channel for discussing cargo tables on our Discord server. --BladeofEvilsBane (talk) 19:00, August 26, 2023 (EDT)

Ideas.[edit]

1. Project Trivia. A project focused on trivia. I would be happy to lead this project. 2. An Animal Crossing Debate Club. Thanks, --SunsetBay (Talk) Margie NL Villager Icon.png 14:29, September 5, 2023 (EDT)

Going to lean with the former not being necessary. Trivia as a whole is not an inherent requirement for pages to have, and in many instances (broadly across all wikis, not exclusively here), people get really obsessed with adding trivia points that would much better be served in main article sections like descriptions or are so vague or stretches that they aren't inherently useful—I'd be concerned a project like that would encourage something like that. If the project was to perhaps update and consolidate or re-integrate trivia, I would be more on board.
The idea of a debate club is cool, but it's not really what a wiki is for. Furthermore, the format of a wiki isn't terribly constructive for a rapid-fire debate club style of writing/conversation. I would suggest joining an Animal Crossing discord (or making your own) for something like this.
These are just my opinions on the matter, hope it helps. Trig - 02:28, September 28, 2023 (EDT)
OK, Thanks, --SunsetBay (Talk) Margie NL Villager Icon.png 07:23, October 1, 2023 (EDT)

Discussing our proposal system[edit]

I'm starting to think non-Trustees shouldn't make proposals here. While so far we only had FroggyPotter's recent proposal asking for "one staff to be active at all time", I get this feeling that users not acquainted with policy-making will go to the proposal system for something that isn't a change affecting "a large number of pages or users".

What do you think? Should we limit the creation of proposal to only Trustees or not? -- PanchamBro (talk • contributions) 16:32, September 5, 2023 (EDT)

  • Comment Comment I probably wouldn't support going that far; I think everyone should have a chance to submit their ideas as a proposal. We could limit to autoconfirmed, but that wouldn't help much.
I do, however, think there should be an ability for admins to veto proposals that are clearly unnecessary or relate to how the staff operate, like there is on MarioWiki. FroggyPotter's proposal would fall into the latter category. Drago (talk) Drago PC Villager Icon.png 10:46, September 6, 2023 (EDT)
  • I dig an ability to veto a proposal that is unnecessary or is in regards to staff and all. -- PanchamBro (talk • contributions) 16:32, September 7, 2023 (EDT)
  • When overhauling Inkipedia's proposal system recently, we introduced a veto that would require three administrators to veto a proposal in a publicly listed third vote in order to shut things down. Not saying this is better or worse than the above listed, just that it is another option. Trig - 02:28, September 28, 2023 (EDT)
  • Comment Comment Agree with Drago on both points. Chubby Bub (talk) 21:00, September 6, 2023 (EDT)

Translating the wiki[edit]

I would like to translate the wiki to Italian. Does anyone know if I have to get permission or if there's a way to add new languages to pages? Edit: I see both the Spanish and German version have gone separate ways but I was aiming to just add something to Nookipedia itself. FUGOSHROOM (talk) 15:20, October 14, 2023 (EDT)FUGOSHROOM

Delete single-character species pages[edit]

There are currently 18 species pages for species that only contain a single character. All of them are no longer than one or two sentences, usually just describing what the character does or what they look like, which is already covered on that character's own article. Therefore, I propose that these pages be redirected to their respective characters' pages. The following pages would be affected by this:

~ AlexBot2004 (Talk) 02:26, December 21, 2023 (EST)

Comment Comment For the most part, I don't have any attachment to the single-special-character species pages, though it would be a loss for the fox, gray langur, peacock, and reindeer pages specifically, since those happen to have additional information involving related villagers that are depicted to be the same as those species, in appearance only (e.g. Audie and Chief on the fox page). Though that's not to say it means we should keep these species pages, because it's not like there's pages for every unique portrayal of an animal villager species (like zebra for Savannah, flamingo for Flora, etc.), just the villagers that coincidentally line up with special character species. Though I felt like it was worth noting for a fuller picture for the vote. HylianAngel (talk) 03:00, December 21, 2023 (EST)
Support Support I feel there isn't much point in giving a species a dedicated article if there's only one character of said species, cuz there really isn't much (if anything) the species page can cover that the character's article can't (lest we wanna fill 'em with a bunch of real-world info that has no relevancy to the character/series).
I also noticed that the axolotl page has an image of its real-life counterpart, with the only other species page with this distinction being raccoon. Admittedly I question the necessity of these images (mostly the raccoon dog pic, anyway), but I'll save that for different discussion, I just wanted to bring it up. Snapping Turtle NH Icon.pngThe Jacketed TerrapinSoft-Shelled Turtle NH Icon.png 14:00, December 21, 2023 (EST)
Comment Comment I feel that it would be a good cleanup, but yeah, as stated above, some pages show some details, like Julia resembling a Peacock or Deli looking like a gray tangur, although they are listed under different species. BrikyEmotion Greetings NH Icon.png 02:44, January 6, 2024 (EST)
Oppose Oppose While I get the reasons behind this, I think we shouldn't rule out the possibilities of new characters based on these species in case if future Animal Crossing games comes around. Case in point: New Horizons brought several new characters like C.J., Flick, Daisy Mae and Gullivarrr, which represents beaver, chameleon, boar and seagull respectively, which prior to New Horizons also have only one characters. If they didn't get introduced, these species pages might possibly be on jeopardy as well. There's also some trivia but notable mentions like from Erik and Julia which were easily found in these species pages. For these reasons, I have to disagree with this. Starry Windy★ 18:47, January 6, 2024 (EST)
If more characters in these species are introduced in later games, then we can recreate these pages then. But as it is now, these pages don't offer any information that isn't already on the character's page. I agree that it's worth noting the villagers who resemble some of these species, but that can be noted on that villager's page in the "Appearance" section. ~ AlexBot2004 (Talk) 18:55, January 6, 2024 (EST)
Comment Comment Could we not merge them all into a single page? --Shark HHD Icon.png Dorsal Axe (talk) 04:31, February 4, 2024 (EST)

Use screenshots instead of artwork on special character pages[edit]

Right now, on special character pages in the "Appearances" sections for each game, we generally have artwork of that character from that game. However, I think screenshots from that game would be much more useful to readers, both in showing how the character appears/works in each game, and to better illustrate what is being described in the prose. I think artwork doesn't really add much and is better suited for the character's gallery page. ~ AlexBot2004 (Talk) 16:44, December 25, 2023 (EST)

Support Support That's the most logical system for portraying the content and how it should consistently be everywhere. I think the only reason why it's not already like that is because of the lack of special character screenshots for each game in the series. Blanca and Katie in the older games would be especially difficult. HylianAngel (talk) 20:38, January 6, 2024 (EST)

Cantonese spelling[edit]

I'm not sure if it's alright to create a new section here because I've covered this on several threads before, but I think it would be a good time to discuss which kind of spelling that will be used on Cantonese romanizations. As described on previous threads, I'm not a Cantonese speaker, but I wanted the Cantonese spellings to be filled. The thing is, Cantonese has several known spellings which makes me not sure which one to put in.

You see, Yale romanization and Jyutping are two of the things that I considered. Yale seems to be used in a certain NIWA sites that I know of, like Bulbapedia, and some of the spellings here are Yale-esque. On other side, Jyutping is considered to be newer, and sites like Wiktionary seems to be fond of using it. I'll give some examples for comparison, but I'm taking cues from a certain pinyin converter, so I'm not 100% sure if it's accurate, but here goes:

Blathers (傅達)
Yale romanization: fuh daaht
Jyutping romanization: fu6 daat6

Brewster (老闆)
Yale romanization: lóuh báan
Jyutping romanization: lou5 baan2

Isabelle (西施惠)
Yale romanization: sāi sī waih
Jyutping romanization: sai1 si1 wai6

Now, I've been thinking three options. Option A is to have Yale romanization being used entirely, or Option B where Jyutping is used in all the pages. There's also Option C where Yale and Jyutping romanization being used side by side, even though I'm not sure if infoboxes would allow two of them. Or is there another way to do it? And what do you guys think? Please respond kindly, thanks. Starry Windy★ 11:15, January 3, 2024 (EST)

I'm down to changing how we do romanizations in general. A thing that bothers me is that there aren't many good sites out there that can get us accurate romanizations for Japanese, Korean, and Chinese (like any of them really). Definitely a goal to be made when Project Languages comes into fruition. -- PanchamBro (talk • contributions) 07:36, January 6, 2024 (EST)
Actually, I think Chinese romanizations are pretty much standardized. For Simplified Chinese, we often use Hanyu Pinyin which is widely used in Mainland China and Singapore according to Wikipedia, and is considered the international standard. And I'm pretty sure we've used this one in practically all articles that has it. Other notable romanizations include Gwoyeu Romatzyh which was used back then but rarely so nowadays, and also Wade-Giles and Yale.
Speaking of Yale, it has two kinds of romanizations, one for Mandarin and one for Cantonese. The latter apparently is still widely used, it's systematic in how things are spelled, which somehow almost mirrors Hanyu Pinyin in some ways. Apart from Yale, I also think of Jyutping as systematic spelling. And I haven't even get started on Cantonese Pinyin, which is a real deal as well. Things to note, the reason I'm not sure on how accurate the Cantonese romanizations are is simply because I didn't learn much on Cantonese yet. Starry Windy★ 08:45, January 6, 2024 (EST)
It's moreso the fact that it's harder to find sites that can auto-romanize them, but I do feel it's important to have someone experienced with that language to handle that romanization. -- PanchamBro (talk • contributions) 08:48, January 6, 2024 (EST)
Well, I do found one site for it. For the examples I gave above, I was taking reference from this site, and I find the spelling for Marina was a 100% match. It's from this site that I knew Bulbapedia used Yale spelling, too. Still, I also agreed that we need someone experienced on Cantonese, too. Starry Windy★ 08:55, January 6, 2024 (EST)

A new Project?[edit]

Idea: Project Languages! It would be centered around interwiki links and modifying the villagers' articles to make them more... accessible for those who don't speak English, such as links to the Spanish and German Animal Crossing wikis, and... More details in other languages than just the names, such as the photo quotes and catchphrases. You know, make the wiki more open to people who don't speak English. BrikyEmotion Greetings NH Icon.png 16:37, January 6, 2024 (EST)

I actually just looked at the top post here, so maybe we could combine this with that? And I also saw an idea that comes from 2021 on the Projects talk page: Something called "Project Linguistics". Well, if it's okay for the creator of the original idea, I think I've found the name for this project! BrikyEmotion Greetings NH Icon.png 16:43, January 6, 2024 (EST)

Possible Incorrect Genre for the Wild World Rubber Plant[edit]

Hi there! I've been playing Animal Crossing: Wild World quite a lot lately and had a villager that was into collecting Old-school furniture. The Rubber Plant was in Nook's store and is on the old-school list, so I grabbed it. When I gave the villager the rubber plant, he rejected it saying it's not old-school. He refused to take it when I tried again. I'm not sure which genre it's supposed to be corrected to though. (Sorry if I'm doing this the wrong way, I'm new!) MadRayne (talk) 16:21, January 8, 2024 (EST)

It looks like all the items in the House Plant Set had incorrect genres; they have all been corrected to Chic. All the genres are now taken directly from the game's files, so there shouldn't be any more errors. Thank you for pointing this out! ~ AlexBot2004 (Talk) 14:45, January 9, 2024 (EST)

Userbox question[edit]

Hiya im Ceariah im new to the wiki. Just a question how do you make a userbox? Ceariah (talk) 06:25, January 21, 2024 (EST)

You can go to the Userbox page to find some userboxes and a guide on how to use them. Have a good day and welcome to Nookipedia! Briky If you know how to make this link to my talk page, please tell me! 12:28, January 24, 2024 (EST)

i got a black rose by accident[edit]

woke up today to find a black rose, which surprised me because i don't even have a special red rose (i think), which you get by crossing a purple and an orange. i don't even have a purple rose anywhere in my town, only way i can see this happening is if theres another way to create a special red rose.

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--Erick7477719 (talk) 10:42, February 28, 2024 (EST)

There is a chance that breeding red roses will give you a black rose. At least you got one! DriftveilBread (talk) 12:53, March 21, 2024 (EDT)
Water the black rose with a gold watering can and you might get a gold rose! ACL.png Acnh Player (talk) ACL.png 11:40, April 9, 2024 (EDT)

If I find vandalism, where should I report it?[edit]

Where do I report users? Acnh Player (talk) 23:55, March 24, 2024 (EDT)

Nookipedia:Staff noticeboard is the best place on-wiki. ~SuperHamster Talk Contribs 00:07, March 25, 2024 (EDT)

Memes[edit]

Should users be allowed to post meme images related to animal crossing here? Vote underneath. ACL.png Acnh Player (talk) ACL.png 18:51, April 11, 2024 (EDT)

No. Trig Jegman - 00:31, April 12, 2024 (EDT)
Oppose Oppose Sorry, but it's too off-topic for a website that has dedicated itself to making an encyclopedia about Animal Crossing. There's a channel on Nookipedia:Discord that is much more suitable for memes. Drago (talk) Drago PC Villager Icon.png 11:12, April 12, 2024 (EDT)
I said "Related to" animal crossing. ACL.png Acnh Player (talk) ACL.png 11:14, April 12, 2024 (EDT)
They still wouldn't have any use on articles though. You could maybe upload them as personal images if they're not inappropriate. Drago (talk) Drago PC Villager Icon.png 11:19, April 12, 2024 (EDT)
If you're referring to a mainspace page that does allow Animal Crossing meme images, the closest thing would be the "Pop-culture phenomena" section on the "List of Animal Crossing references in other media" page, but I feel a meme should have widespread notability to be listed on that page lest it be severely bloated with unnoteworthy memes. Snapping Turtle NH Icon.pngThe Jacketed TerrapinSoft-Shelled Turtle NH Icon.png 20:02, April 12, 2024 (EDT)
How about if you want to post memes it has to be approved by a staff first. ACL.png Acnh Player (talk) ACL.png 20:17, April 12, 2024 (EDT)
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