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The Roost

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Tasks 3573 things to do Topics 6 To-do's 52 Moves 3 Merges 1 Stubs 461 Stub sections 210 Rewrite 11 Cleanup 2 Outdated 4 Images 340 Image quality 660 Deletion 2 File del. 1815 Unused 6200+ Categorize 0 Wanted 5800+ Specific tasks Our villager pages could use house descriptions. At the top of villager house sections, add a description describing common themes and changes to the villager's house throughout the series. Examples available on Eunice and Alfonso. Add "Appearance" sections to our New Horizons wallpaper and floor pages to describe what they look like. Example at Underwater Wall. Screenshots of all walls and floors located here and here, respectively. Restructure and populate our fossil pages with info for Animal Crossing, Wild World, City Folk, and New Leaf using our new fossil info templates. Our New Horizons info is already complete - see Brachiosaurus for an example for how to replicate. Work on our Pocket Camp coverage; visit Project Pocket Camp for more info. Coverage needed includes Gyroidite Scavenger Events, fortune cookie sets, Happy Homeroom puzzles, and memories. Our merchandise coverage needs lots of expansion! Help expand our existing lists and create new ones using the {{MerchSeries}} and {{MerchCell}} templates. Add "Characteristics" sections to our special character pages. See Redd#Characteristics for an example. Write a synopsis for Pocket Camp memories. Be sure to remove the {{Stub}} template from the Synopsis section when completed in order to remove the article from this list. 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Post new topics below! Drago (talk) 11:03, January 1, 2019 (EST)

Add internal name and ID regarding item

There's support to add the internal name/ID of items to the item pages. -- PanchamBro (talk • contributions) 10:44, February 29, 2024 (EST)

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Something that has been on my mind lately was adding internal name and ID regarding a particular item. For instance, the tulip table in Animal Crossing has the filename sum_poptable01 and the internal ID 126C. I believe having information on the item pages would be useful for dataminers, modders, and such if they wanted to inspect information regarding a particular item instead of having to waddle through loads of spreadsheet information. -- PanchamBro (talk • contributions) 09:26, January 29, 2023 (EST)

 Support for the reasons you've given. --BladeofEvilsBane (talk) 10:36, January 29, 2023 (EST)

 Support ~ AlexBot2004 (Talk) 14:58, January 29, 2023 (EST)

 Support Briky 15:34, January 6, 2024 (EST)

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The animal emoji redirects

There doesn't seem to be a high demand to save the animals. The animal redirects shall be deleted. HylianAngel (talk) 20:43, February 16, 2023 (EST)

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Right now there are some emoji redirects involving the species pages. Currently these redirects exist: 🐂 🐊 🐒 🐕 🐦 🐵 🐶 🐺 🐻 🦍 They are kind of peculiar, and I can't really gauge if these would necessarily be useful. They're so silly that I wouldn't even mind keeping them. I had to do a double-take when I checked Wikipedia, and they actually utilize emoji redirects, so it seems like they potentially serve some sort of usefulness. But either way, we should either:

a. Complete the collection and create more redirects involving the remaining missing animal emojis from the species pages
b. Delete the existing animal emoji redirects.

What do you think? HylianAngel (talk) 02:28, February 6, 2023 (EST)

Very much against the use of animal emoji redirects. I just do not think they are reasonably used or feasibly searched. Trig - 02:07, February 10, 2023 (EST)

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New Project: Project Languages

I think we should start a project where we fill up the boxes with "unknown" in on templates. --Sylveon (Autistic and proud!)🍉🌺 08:53, February 17, 2023 (EST)

Currently, the major missing romanization on all articles, especially villager articles, is Traditional Chinese, as it was made a separate entry from Simplified Chinese. For Japanese, Korean, and Simplified Chinese (the mainland language of China), you can pretty much use Google Translate to obtain an acceptable romanization of the name. However, Traditional Chinese is a slightly more complicated subject to tackle.

I asked my Chinese friend if this Traditional Chinese romanization of Marina's name was correct, because it was so different from the Simplified Chinese romanization. Zhānglìnà vs. Jēung Laahp Nóh is crazy different, to me as an English-speaking person. But no, she mulled it for a few seconds and said, yep, the Traditional Chinese romanization in this situation is correct. Nookipedia is using the Hong Kong flag, which implies the dialect is Cantonese. I asked her to ignore the flag, and she said you can't do that, the flag matters. I told her that most other wikis, like Bulbapedia and WiKirby don't use flags, and they usually have it simply stated as "Simplified Chinese" and "Traditional Chinese" in written text without flags, and that they tend to make both of those romanizations identical. She said that's the wrong way to approach it, since you're basically erasing an entire dialect from existence by making the romanizations identical. I asked her, would it make sense to make the Traditional and Simplified Chinese romanizations the same if the flag was not there at all, and she said, yes, some dialects of Traditional Chinese would have identical romanization as Simplified Chinese, but that is why the flag is so important in this scenario because the Hong Kong flag implies the Cantonese dialect, and you shouldn't make the romanizations the same if it's the Hong Kong flag.

She also explained that China has been attempting to erase Cantonese for some time in order to make Simplified Chinese the main language. Another unfortunate aspect is that we wouldn't even be able to obtain any Cantonese Traditional Chinese romanizations on Nookipedia without the help of a Cantonese-speaking person, because Google Translate spits out identical romanizations for Simplified and Traditional Chinese anyways. So we have a major problem where the Hong Kong flag would be misleading if we were to copy-paste the Simplified Chinese romanizations to be the same as the Traditional Chinese romanizations, but if we were to decide to stick with Hong Kong/Cantonese, we probably will never have any Traditional Chinese romanizations ever, unless a Cantonese person decides to join and contribute for every page (and my Chinese friend does not know Cantonese). HylianAngel (talk) 16:13, February 17, 2023 (EST)

I may not know much about Cantonese at the moment, but I've been thinking about it considering that it has several romanizations that could be used here. I'm pretty sure Bulbapedia used Yale romanization for Cantonese, but on the other hand, there's also Jyutping romanization. If we can get some pointers on which of these romanizations should be used here, it would be a good start. Not to mention, the example of Marina earlier on seems to be using Yale's. Starry Windy★ 23:05, November 29, 2023 (EST)

Villager Quotes

Hi! I am new to being an editor, but recently I noticed Nookipedia doesn't do individual quotes for villagers, something the Animal Crossing Wiki does do. I've been adding quotes for a few villagers, but not too many. I wanted to garner some support before I continue to do more. I know most quotes are similar within personality, but there are some, like picture quotes, that are individual to certain villagers. I think this could be really cool to do for every villager, because the rest of the villager page isn't very personalized at all. Plus, sometimes, people only need the page to look for the picture quote, and putting it at the top of the page could be useful. I think it would be fun for the editors, and readers, to mix it up a little. So, community, do you have an opinion? Should I keep going? Omigpine11 (talk) 17:59, March 11, 2023 (EST)Omigpine11

Although photo quotes are "unique dialogue" involving the villager, I feel it is not needed to include it at the top of the page, since this info is available within the infobox ("favorite saying"), which is very close to the top of the page already. If a reader only needs the photo quote, they already have easy access. These quotes are also located on the Photo page. I personally  Oppose adding photo quotes to the top of villager pages. However, I  Support adding quotes on villager pages in cases where it is in-game dialogue completely exclusive to the villager. These cases are rare, but some cases do occur in New Horizons involving very specific species-personality combos (where there is only 1 villager who is that species-personality, like Wendy the peppy sheep, on Year of the Sheep). While it's not really from the game, I agree with the Alfonso quote you added from the official NH website, since it is indeed completely unique. HylianAngel (talk) 18:25, March 11, 2023 (EST)

Actually HylianAngel, the top quote on Alfonso's page is a quote lazy villagers say in New Horizons, just that "This place" is replaced with whatever you named your island. Just a warning that the source I am about to provide does contain some very crude language, but it's the only proof I was able to find of the quote being used in-game, so please bear with me on this one (quote is on the 4th pic): https://imgflip.com/i/43nbpn

That being said, I don't really mind it being Alfonso's top quote since the website does make that association. The Jacketed Terrapin 18:31, March 11, 2023 (EST)

Thanks, I should have worded it more clearly that it's a unique association. I did remember the dialogue from playing NH, so saying "completely unique" was not entirely correct when I was trying to convey my reasoning. HylianAngel (talk) 18:34, March 11, 2023 (EST)

I wanted to mention that I went ahead and added the unique dialogue involving New Year's Day for unique species-personality combos to the "Trivia" sections of the involved pages, but only for bulls/cows (2021), tigers (2022), and rabbits (2023). So this would be Coach, Norma, Patty, Rolf, Claudia, Gaston, Coco, and Mira.

I didn't add the dialogue for future years yet, which would be horses (2026), sheep (2027), monkeys (2028), birds (2029), dogs (2030), pigs (2031), and mice (2032). Actually, from reading the dialogue files, it's unclear if Year of the Rooster (2029) will apply to all bird-related species (birds, ducks, eagles, ostriches, penguins, and chickens), a subset of these bird species, or just chickens themselves. The dialogue specifically says "Year of the Bird," or "Year of the Rooster," depending on the personality type of the speaking villager, but mostly these dialogues state "Year of the Bird." Unless someone time travels to 2029 and checks each species, or unless a dataminer could examine the code, it probably won't be known. Anyways, I felt it would make sense to just add the dialogue for 2021-2023 and not the future years yet. However, I wouldn't be against adding the future years either. HylianAngel (talk) 07:14, March 12, 2023 (EDT)

Villager catchphrases

I strongly believe that villager pages should have a dedicated section to their catchphrases in each language, in the same style as their given name in the "Names in other languages" section. Currently there is not a good place to describe the meaning of a villager's foreign catchphrases, so there are cases where the Japanese catchphrase holds some relevance to the character, but since there is no decent section to place it, it is instead placed at the top of the page, where it sits next to any relevant English given name and English catchphrase origin information. That location is somewhat awkward, since it's inconsistent to have the English given name, the English catchphrase, no Japanese given name (since Japanese name info is generally placed in the "Names in other languages" section), and then the Japanese catchphrase.

If there was a dedicated section for catchphrases in other languages, it would not only allow describing any Japanese catchphrase relevance, but also the relevance of catchphrases of every other language as well, and there is currently no location to place non-English or non-Japanese catchphrase relevancy information. Basic "names in other languages" and "catchphrases in other languages" data exists in the infobox, and yet only the "names in other languages" is duplicated at the bottom of the page. I believe both should be at the bottom of the page.

While the main article header would be "Names in other languages," there are 2 different formatting styles that could be implemented:

• The sub-headers are the words "Given name" and "Catchphrase."
  • Optionally and additionally, in combination with this style so that the name and catchphrase are extremely explicit, a parameter for the English name can be included, like how Fire Emblem Wiki does it (example here). While it might be currently redundant with the English information included in the intro prose, I think it's fine for there to be redundant information, as many villager pages already do repeat redundant information (like the infobox repeating the foreign names information), and it can serve a very useful utility purpose if intros are ever repurposed to no longer include English name/catchphrase origins. Plus, it would allow for future "favorite sayings" English explanations, which no intros do unless it's related to the character's identity/species somehow, but I feel this would be good information to include no matter what.
• The sub-headers are the character's actual name and catchphrase, like for example Sherb, the sub-headers would be "Sherb" and "bawwww."

I'm also open to other suggestions for the formatting style. I'm slightly partial to the first style, just because there might be a case where "favorite sayings" are also given their own dedicated section in the future, and the full saying might be weird as a header. What formatting do you think would be best? HylianAngel (talk) 14:50, April 4, 2023 (EDT), edited again on 16:11, April 22, 2023 (EDT)

I caught the spirit!!

I caught farley!! ~ 08:51, April 11, 2023 (EDT)

Trig Jegman's File Template

As I am sure you have seen, I've been working on the creation and generation of my file module for Nookipedia. The time is now to suggest that it is used instead of the existing Template:File Info.

First, to be explicitly clear, this module would work the same as a template to the degree that I have made sure everything will retroactively work on it. Nothing would break by the implementation of the module.

Second: My module is a lot beefier than the existing template is now. Here's the main takeaways:

• Combined licensing. No more need for having 33 different licensing templates, when the module will take care of all of them collectively.
• More maintenance parameters and a closer analysis of sourcing. There are several maintenance features included, such as files taken from FANDOM sources or YouTube.
• Predesignated sources for when the user captures an image themself.
• Automatic categorization. This is the big one: Through the introduction of two new parameters (game and type), files will now automatically be categorized into their appropriate categories, making widescale changes easier and formatting more consistent.
• This is an excellent opportunity to look at all of the files on site and reduce duplicates, fix naming, improve quality, and get specific sources amongst other tasks.

I wouldn't propose this if I didn't have great success in implementing this before. I have completely added this style of template to every single file on WiKirby, Wars Wiki, Inkipedia, MiiWiki, The Cycle: Frontier, as well as partial completion on Mystery Dungeon Francise Wiki, FamiWiki, and StrategyWiki. I've done it before and I'm more than happy to do it again to get this implemented. I really think that having this upgrade is a valuable resource and helps create consistency both on this site and in conjunction with other wikis as well. I have a few examples of use cases here to understand what it might look like. The new parameters are the following:

• Game — Allows an automatic link to a game, and can work to add automatic categories.
• Type/Meta — These two pull from a determined list of common types (such as Artwork, Screenshots, Amiibo, or User Files) in order to automatically categorize files. The difference between type and meta is that type will categorize based off the game entry (New Leaf sprites), meta will only do off the type (Sprites).
• User — Used for user files or when attributing the source to someone else.
• Author — At the suggestion/request of Shams, useful for creative commons files.
• License — All those licensing templates are here now
• Fandom/Youtube — By setting these to yes, it places files taken from these less than desirable locations into a maintenance category for replacement.

I'm happy to make more examples, or give breakdowns of how I would go about fixing these, or answer any questions about it. Please let me know how you feel about implementing it on Nookipedia as well! Trig - 13:22, June 28, 2023 (EDT)

 Support - Everything here looks great! The combined licensing and automatic categorization are especially welcome additions; I can't think of anything at the moment that I'd add or change. ~ AlexBot2004 (Talk) 01:08, July 6, 2023 (EDT)

 Support I think this could work. I do believe though that if we agree on this more, we should set up a proposal to implement. -- PanchamBro (talk • contributions) 16:41, September 5, 2023 (EDT)

New Horizons villager box item capitalization

PanchamBro's bot fixed the capitalization of New Horizons items on almost all villager pages, but since Jacob/Jakey and Spork/Crackle have 2 different names, I think the bot skipped over those two. Making a note here that it needs to eventually be fixed, don't have time to fix it myself at the moment. HylianAngel (talk) 15:51, July 29, 2023 (EDT)

This should be fixed now! -- PanchamBro (talk • contributions) 01:05, August 2, 2023 (EDT)

Thank you! HylianAngel (talk) 20:51, August 4, 2023 (EDT)

wanna join my club???

it is called bob fan club - unsigned comment from FroggyPotter (talk • contribs)

Sure. Thanks, --SunsetBay (Talk) 05:31, September 5, 2023 (EDT)

Help with Cargo Tables

Are there any resources to help figure out how they work? If not can some please explain them to me? TheMajesticPineapple (talk) 22:56, August 24, 2023 (EDT)

Here are a couple of resources:

• https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:Cargo (also check out the Storing data and Querying data subpages)
• https://help.fandom.com/wiki/Extension:Cargo
• https://support.wiki.gg/wiki/Cargo

My personal understanding of it is that the gist of it is that you'll have a template for a type of page with a bunch of input fields. In the template you say that inputs in those fields get stored in a big behind-the-scenes table. You can then create a cargo query table to list specific stuff from that big table on any page you want. For better understanding the template side of things it helps to look at templates that use cargo, and for cargo query tables it helps to look at and compare different pages that use different cargo queries. Hope this helps a bit! Bassieeee (talk) 07:19, August 25, 2023 (EDT)

Thank you so much, I couldn't find anything on them anywhere.

TheMajesticPineapple (talk) 09:30, August 25, 2023 (EDT)

Nookipedia:Project Database has some good information on cargo tables, and we have a channel for discussing cargo tables on our Discord server. --BladeofEvilsBane (talk) 19:00, August 26, 2023 (EDT)

Ideas.

1. Project Trivia. A project focused on trivia. I would be happy to lead this project. 2. An Animal Crossing Debate Club. Thanks, --SunsetBay (Talk) 14:29, September 5, 2023 (EDT)

Going to lean with the former not being necessary. Trivia as a whole is not an inherent requirement for pages to have, and in many instances (broadly across all wikis, not exclusively here), people get really obsessed with adding trivia points that would much better be served in main article sections like descriptions or are so vague or stretches that they aren't inherently useful—I'd be concerned a project like that would encourage something like that. If the project was to perhaps update and consolidate or re-integrate trivia, I would be more on board.

The idea of a debate club is cool, but it's not really what a wiki is for. Furthermore, the format of a wiki isn't terribly constructive for a rapid-fire debate club style of writing/conversation. I would suggest joining an Animal Crossing discord (or making your own) for something like this.

These are just my opinions on the matter, hope it helps. Trig - 02:28, September 28, 2023 (EDT)

OK, Thanks, --SunsetBay (Talk) 07:23, October 1, 2023 (EDT)

Discussing our proposal system

I'm starting to think non-Trustees shouldn't make proposals here. While so far we only had FroggyPotter's recent proposal asking for "one staff to be active at all time", I get this feeling that users not acquainted with policy-making will go to the proposal system for something that isn't a change affecting "a large number of pages or users".

What do you think? Should we limit the creation of proposal to only Trustees or not? -- PanchamBro (talk • contributions) 16:32, September 5, 2023 (EDT)

•  Comment I probably wouldn't support going that far; I think everyone should have a chance to submit their ideas as a proposal. We could limit to autoconfirmed, but that wouldn't help much.

I do, however, think there should be an ability for admins to veto proposals that are clearly unnecessary or relate to how the staff operate, like there is on MarioWiki. FroggyPotter's proposal would fall into the latter category. Drago (talk) 10:46, September 6, 2023 (EDT)

• I dig an ability to veto a proposal that is unnecessary or is in regards to staff and all. -- PanchamBro (talk • contributions) 16:32, September 7, 2023 (EDT)

• When overhauling Inkipedia's proposal system recently, we introduced a veto that would require three administrators to veto a proposal in a publicly listed third vote in order to shut things down. Not saying this is better or worse than the above listed, just that it is another option. Trig - 02:28, September 28, 2023 (EDT)

•  Comment Agree with Drago on both points. Chubby Bub (talk) 21:00, September 6, 2023 (EDT)

Translating the wiki

I would like to translate the wiki to Italian. Does anyone know if I have to get permission or if there's a way to add new languages to pages? Edit: I see both the Spanish and German version have gone separate ways but I was aiming to just add something to Nookipedia itself. FUGOSHROOM (talk) 15:20, October 14, 2023 (EDT)FUGOSHROOM

Delete single-character species pages

There are currently 18 species pages for species that only contain a single character. All of them are no longer than one or two sentences, usually just describing what the character does or what they look like, which is already covered on that character's own article. Therefore, I propose that these pages be redirected to their respective characters' pages. The following pages would be affected by this:

• Axolotl (Dr. Shrunk)
• Camel (Saharah)
• Fox (Redd)
• Frill-necked lizard (Frillard)
• Fur seal (Phineas)
• Giraffe (Gracie)
• Gray langur (Niko)
• Gyroid (species) (Lloid)
• Manatee (Wardell)
• Panther (Katrina)
• Peacock (Pavé)
• Pigeon (Brewster)
• Reindeer (Jingle)
• Skunk (Kicks)
• Sloth (Leif)
• Tapir (Luna)
• Turkey (Franklin)
• Walrus (Wendell)

~ AlexBot2004 (Talk) 02:26, December 21, 2023 (EST)

 Comment For the most part, I don't have any attachment to the single-special-character species pages, though it would be a loss for the fox, gray langur, peacock, and reindeer pages specifically, since those happen to have additional information involving related villagers that are depicted to be the same as those species, in appearance only (e.g. Audie and Chief on the fox page). Though that's not to say it means we should keep these species pages, because it's not like there's pages for every unique portrayal of an animal villager species (like zebra for Savannah, flamingo for Flora, etc.), just the villagers that coincidentally line up with special character species. Though I felt like it was worth noting for a fuller picture for the vote. HylianAngel (talk) 03:00, December 21, 2023 (EST)

 Support I feel there isn't much point in giving a species a dedicated article if there's only one character of said species, cuz there really isn't much (if anything) the species page can cover that the character's article can't (lest we wanna fill 'em with a bunch of real-world info that has no relevancy to the character/series).
I also noticed that the axolotl page has an image of its real-life counterpart, with the only other species page with this distinction being raccoon. Admittedly I question the necessity of these images (mostly the raccoon dog pic, anyway), but I'll save that for different discussion, I just wanted to bring it up. The Jacketed Terrapin 14:00, December 21, 2023 (EST)

 Comment I feel that it would be a good cleanup, but yeah, as stated above, some pages show some details, like Julia resembling a Peacock or Deli looking like a gray tangur, although they are listed under different species. Briky 02:44, January 6, 2024 (EST)

 Oppose While I get the reasons behind this, I think we shouldn't rule out the possibilities of new characters based on these species in case if future Animal Crossing games comes around. Case in point: New Horizons brought several new characters like C.J., Flick, Daisy Mae and Gullivarrr, which represents beaver, chameleon, boar and seagull respectively, which prior to New Horizons also have only one characters. If they didn't get introduced, these species pages might possibly be on jeopardy as well. There's also some trivia but notable mentions like from Erik and Julia which were easily found in these species pages. For these reasons, I have to disagree with this. Starry Windy★ 18:47, January 6, 2024 (EST)

If more characters in these species are introduced in later games, then we can recreate these pages then. But as it is now, these pages don't offer any information that isn't already on the character's page. I agree that it's worth noting the villagers who resemble some of these species, but that can be noted on that villager's page in the "Appearance" section. ~ AlexBot2004 (Talk) 18:55, January 6, 2024 (EST)

 Comment Could we not merge them all into a single page? -- Dorsal Axe (talk) 04:31, February 4, 2024 (EST)

Use screenshots instead of artwork on special character pages

Right now, on special character pages in the "Appearances" sections for each game, we generally have artwork of that character from that game. However, I think screenshots from that game would be much more useful to readers, both in showing how the character appears/works in each game, and to better illustrate what is being described in the prose. I think artwork doesn't really add much and is better suited for the character's gallery page. ~ AlexBot2004 (Talk) 16:44, December 25, 2023 (EST)

 Support That's the most logical system for portraying the content and how it should consistently be everywhere. I think the only reason why it's not already like that is because of the lack of special character screenshots for each game in the series. Blanca and Katie in the older games would be especially difficult. HylianAngel (talk) 20:38, January 6, 2024 (EST)

Cantonese spelling

I'm not sure if it's alright to create a new section here because I've covered this on several threads before, but I think it would be a good time to discuss which kind of spelling that will be used on Cantonese romanizations. As described on previous threads, I'm not a Cantonese speaker, but I wanted the Cantonese spellings to be filled. The thing is, Cantonese has several known spellings which makes me not sure which one to put in.

You see, Yale romanization and Jyutping are two of the things that I considered. Yale seems to be used in a certain NIWA sites that I know of, like Bulbapedia, and some of the spellings here are Yale-esque. On other side, Jyutping is considered to be newer, and sites like Wiktionary seems to be fond of using it. I'll give some examples for comparison, but I'm taking cues from a certain pinyin converter, so I'm not 100% sure if it's accurate, but here goes:

Blathers (傅達)
Yale romanization: fuh daaht
Jyutping romanization: fu6 daat6

Brewster (老闆)
Yale romanization: lóuh báan
Jyutping romanization: lou5 baan2

Isabelle (西施惠)
Yale romanization: sāi sī waih
Jyutping romanization: sai1 si1 wai6

Now, I've been thinking three options. Option A is to have Yale romanization being used entirely, or Option B where Jyutping is used in all the pages. There's also Option C where Yale and Jyutping romanization being used side by side, even though I'm not sure if infoboxes would allow two of them. Or is there another way to do it? And what do you guys think? Please respond kindly, thanks. Starry Windy★ 11:15, January 3, 2024 (EST)

I'm down to changing how we do romanizations in general. A thing that bothers me is that there aren't many good sites out there that can get us accurate romanizations for Japanese, Korean, and Chinese (like any of them really). Definitely a goal to be made when Project Languages comes into fruition. -- PanchamBro (talk • contributions) 07:36, January 6, 2024 (EST)

Actually, I think Chinese romanizations are pretty much standardized. For Simplified Chinese, we often use Hanyu Pinyin which is widely used in Mainland China and Singapore according to Wikipedia, and is considered the international standard. And I'm pretty sure we've used this one in practically all articles that has it. Other notable romanizations include Gwoyeu Romatzyh which was used back then but rarely so nowadays, and also Wade-Giles and Yale.

Speaking of Yale, it has two kinds of romanizations, one for Mandarin and one for Cantonese. The latter apparently is still widely used, it's systematic in how things are spelled, which somehow almost mirrors Hanyu Pinyin in some ways. Apart from Yale, I also think of Jyutping as systematic spelling. And I haven't even get started on Cantonese Pinyin, which is a real deal as well. Things to note, the reason I'm not sure on how accurate the Cantonese romanizations are is simply because I didn't learn much on Cantonese yet. Starry Windy★ 08:45, January 6, 2024 (EST)

It's moreso the fact that it's harder to find sites that can auto-romanize them, but I do feel it's important to have someone experienced with that language to handle that romanization. -- PanchamBro (talk • contributions) 08:48, January 6, 2024 (EST)

Well, I do found one site for it. For the examples I gave above, I was taking reference from this site, and I find the spelling for Marina was a 100% match. It's from this site that I knew Bulbapedia used Yale spelling, too. Still, I also agreed that we need someone experienced on Cantonese, too. Starry Windy★ 08:55, January 6, 2024 (EST)

A new Project?

Idea: Project Languages! It would be centered around interwiki links and modifying the villagers' articles to make them more... accessible for those who don't speak English, such as links to the Spanish and German Animal Crossing wikis, and... More details in other languages than just the names, such as the photo quotes and catchphrases. You know, make the wiki more open to people who don't speak English. Briky 16:37, January 6, 2024 (EST)

I actually just looked at the top post here, so maybe we could combine this with that? And I also saw an idea that comes from 2021 on the Projects talk page: Something called "Project Linguistics". Well, if it's okay for the creator of the original idea, I think I've found the name for this project! Briky 16:43, January 6, 2024 (EST)

Possible Incorrect Genre for the Wild World Rubber Plant

Hi there! I've been playing Animal Crossing: Wild World quite a lot lately and had a villager that was into collecting Old-school furniture. The Rubber Plant was in Nook's store and is on the old-school list, so I grabbed it. When I gave the villager the rubber plant, he rejected it saying it's not old-school. He refused to take it when I tried again. I'm not sure which genre it's supposed to be corrected to though. (Sorry if I'm doing this the wrong way, I'm new!) MadRayne (talk) 16:21, January 8, 2024 (EST)

It looks like all the items in the House Plant Set had incorrect genres; they have all been corrected to Chic. All the genres are now taken directly from the game's files, so there shouldn't be any more errors. Thank you for pointing this out! ~ AlexBot2004 (Talk) 14:45, January 9, 2024 (EST)

Userbox question

Hiya im Ceariah im new to the wiki. Just a question how do you make a userbox? Ceariah (talk) 06:25, January 21, 2024 (EST)

You can go to the Userbox page to find some userboxes and a guide on how to use them. Have a good day and welcome to Nookipedia! Briky 12:28, January 24, 2024 (EST)

i got a black rose by accident

woke up today to find a black rose, which surprised me because i don't even have a special red rose (i think), which you get by crossing a purple and an orange. i don't even have a purple rose anywhere in my town, only way i can see this happening is if theres another way to create a special red rose.

--Erick7477719 (talk) 10:42, February 28, 2024 (EST)

There is a chance that breeding red roses will give you a black rose. At least you got one! DriftveilBread (talk) 12:53, March 21, 2024 (EDT)

Water the black rose with a gold watering can and you might get a gold rose! Acnh Player (talk) 11:40, April 9, 2024 (EDT)

If I find vandalism, where should I report it?

Where do I report users? Acnh Player (talk) 23:55, March 24, 2024 (EDT)

Nookipedia:Staff noticeboard is the best place on-wiki. ~SuperHamster Talk Contribs 00:07, March 25, 2024 (EDT)

Memes

Should users be allowed to post meme images related to animal crossing here? Vote underneath. Acnh Player (talk) 18:51, April 11, 2024 (EDT)

No. Trig Jegman - 00:31, April 12, 2024 (EDT)

 Oppose Sorry, but it's too off-topic for a website that has dedicated itself to making an encyclopedia about Animal Crossing. There's a channel on Nookipedia:Discord that is much more suitable for memes. Drago (talk) 11:12, April 12, 2024 (EDT)

I said "Related to" animal crossing. Acnh Player (talk) 11:14, April 12, 2024 (EDT)

They still wouldn't have any use on articles though. You could maybe upload them as personal images if they're not inappropriate. Drago (talk) 11:19, April 12, 2024 (EDT)

If you're referring to a mainspace page that does allow Animal Crossing meme images, the closest thing would be the "Pop-culture phenomena" section on the "List of Animal Crossing references in other media" page, but I feel a meme should have widespread notability to be listed on that page lest it be severely bloated with unnoteworthy memes. The Jacketed Terrapin 20:02, April 12, 2024 (EDT)

How about if you want to post memes it has to be approved by a staff first. Acnh Player (talk) 20:17, April 12, 2024 (EDT)

Removing "count by game" from Infobox Species and Infobox Personality

I wanted to get some feedback from users on the idea of removing the count of villagers by game from Template:Infobox Species and Template:Infobox Personality and integrating it into the species and personality articles as tables. Currently, this information is cramped within the infoboxes, and I feel this is only going to get worse with each new game that is released. Additionally, we're using a crude custom implementation for these two templates, instead of utilising the standard Template:Infobox.

What I'm proposing is that we adapt this information as a table in its own section within the species/personality articles. We're already using Cargo to query the database for the exact count, so it shouldn't be too difficult to adapt this. We would leave the current running total counts in the infoboxes as is, but replace the custom implementation of these templates with Template:Infobox.

Any thoughts? -- Dorsal Axe (talk) 09:11, May 18, 2024 (EDT)

I'd be down to make this info more accessible. -- PanchamBro (talk • contributions) 10:23, May 18, 2024 (EDT)

Actually should we remove this, we may in fact have to delete the infoboxes themselves since they aren't particularly special anymore. It doesn't help that for Template:Infobox Personality, the other category left, which counts if a villager is an islander or not, is redundant for big sister and smug, which do not have this info. I'm more lenient with how this is used for Template:Infobox Species, but again I could just see this being moved altogether.

With that said, I  Support their deletion. -- PanchamBro (talk • contributions) 00:32, May 19, 2024 (EDT)

 Support I agree that these infoboxes are becoming cramped, and I'd support switching to something tidier. Drago (talk) 11:46, May 18, 2024 (EDT)

 Oppose I think the count is necessary for the infoboxes, as it can be helpful ate certain times, like when a user wants to see how many of those are in each game. I don't really think the infoboxes are cramped. Acnh Player (talk) 18:22, May 18, 2024 (EDT)

The information is not being removed, just moved to the body of the article. ~ AlexBot2004 (Talk) 23:47, May 18, 2024 (EDT)

 Support ~ AlexBot2004 (Talk) 23:47, May 18, 2024 (EDT)

Notice Box template cleanup

As part of my work on some interface improvements, I'm looking to rework Template:Notice Box. I've already come up with a massively simplified template (code-wise, visually it's identical) but there are two points of discussion I would like to raise with the community before proceeding with the implementation. -- Dorsal Axe (talk) 18:58, May 19, 2024 (EDT)

Templates for discussion

I've been going through the different notice templates, and feel that there is scope to merge some and remove others. I'm proposing we deprecate, merge, or delete the following:

• Template:Event
  • No longer used in any articles, so could be deprecated or deleted. It would be more suitable to add a field in Template:Infobox Event to denote region-exclusivity than to have a notice.

• Template:Expansion
  • Has a lot of overlap with Template:Missing Information, and incomplete sections should be using Template:Stub. We could merge this with Missing Information and alter it to not only refer to empty sections (which should be removed from articles anyway IMO).

• Template:Future Page
• Template:TemplateWIP
  • Neither of these are used very much, and are basically the same thing as Template:Construction. These could be deprecated or deleted.

• Template:NH Content
  • Was used specifically around the launch of New Horizons and is no longer needed for its intended purpose. Alternatively, we could make this one more generic so it can be repurposed for future titles.

• Template:Rewrite
• Template:To-do
  • Both of these overlap with Template:Cleanup, though the latter covers more use cases, and is clearer than the to-do one. These could all be merged IMO.

-- Dorsal Axe (talk) 18:58, May 19, 2024 (EDT)

Standardising color schemes

I want to make a potentially controversial proposal that we standardise the notice template colours. This would make them easier to maintain in the backend, give users a clearer indication as to the purpose of a notice, and allow us to better ensure accessibility standards are met for their design.

I've identified several categories our existing notices could fit into, and the idea is that all notices within the categories would share the same color scheme but can still have unique icons and text. I've not included file licensing templates, as I would like to make a distinct template for these instead of using the Notice Box template (and they currently all share the same design anyway).

Category	Description	Templates
Nookipedia	All notices relating to Nookipedia itself. This would use the brand colors.	Template:Featured Article Notice Template:Inactive Project Template:Project Leader Template:Policy Template:Proposed Policy Template:Protected talk page Template:Vacation
System	System-related messages. Many of these already share a similar color scheme.	Template:Edit Notice Template:Edit Notice API Template:Edit Notice Cargo Table Template:High Risk Template Template:Lua Notice Template:No Move Template:Preserve Redirect
Warning	Advisories of user blocks and critical system notices. Would match the scheme of the warning/block templates.	Template:Block Template:BlockDirector Template:CommunityBan MediaWiki:Filehist-help
Advisory	Notices to users reflecting the content of the page (that needs more elaboration than using Template:Content Notice).	Template:Archive Template:Cheat Template:Construction Template:Deprecated Template:Future Release Template:Temporary
Editing	Editor-focused notices for articles that need attention or improvements.	Template:Cleanup Template:Image Template:Missing Information Template:Music Wanted Template:Orphan Template:Research Needed Template:Update Template:Video Wanted
Request	Editor-focused notices for page change requests.	Template:Move Request Template:Merge Request Template:Split Request Template:Delete
Game Update	This one already uses styling to match update-related content on the wiki, and I think it should stay that way.	Template:Game Update

-- Dorsal Axe (talk) 18:58, May 19, 2024 (EDT)

 Oppose Sorry but I disagree with this. I am a big fan of colors, and I would like templates to use different colors whenever possible. Acnh Player (talk) 21:25, May 19, 2024 (EDT)